Heather's Heavenly Vapes - THE BIG THREAD (Part 6)

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I love when shows let the characters mature. MASH was not the norm as far as what happens to a show when characters leave and new ones come in. A marvelous combination of the actor and the writers.

I don't think we will ever see such a combination again. We were so sad to see it end.


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I love when shows let the characters mature. MASH was not the norm as far as what happens to a show when characters leave and new ones come in. A marvelous combination of the actor and the writers.

I don't think we will ever see such a combination again. We were so sad to see it end.


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AS CMD said, the show just kept improving. That rarely is the case with TV shows. Andy Griffith improved with time too until the color shows started. Then it took a nose dive. That show was never the same. Andy got too bland, Opie wasn't cute anymore, no Barney, no Gomer, Aunt Bea wore on my nerves, Goober was never any good, Howard Sprague was too square, and Emmit was uninteresting. But those first 7/8 seasons were great.
 

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I love when shows let the characters mature. MASH was not the norm as far as what happens to a show when characters leave and new ones come in. A marvelous combination of the actor and the writers.

I don't think we will ever see such a combination again. We were so sad to see it end.


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The rarest of the rare. Most shows degenerate into a mere lazy formula or a caricature of themselves. "Mash" never became stale. It seemed as if their internal standards for the characters, directing and the writing remained consistently high right through the finale.
 

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Some shows, like Person of Interest and Blacklist, are better before you get the personality of the characters overtaking the plot. Blacklist is still good, but the mystery of Reddington the international criminal in the beginning was exceptional. Now, after Mr. Kaplan did her best to destroy him, it seems like the show has changed to everyone trying to figure out Liz's next move. And she doesn't carry the role as well.
 

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The rarest of the rare. Most shows degenerate into a mere lazy formula or a caricature of themselves. "Mash" never became stale. It seemed as if their internal standards for the characters, directing and the writing remained consistently high right through the finale.

Oh man, that finale! I skipped one of my college classes to watch that. Remember when we had to do such things before VHS, DVD and streaming?!? I was getting so frustrated at Hawkeye because he wouldn’t say what was so distressing. Then he gave a story and you thought that was it. But THEN! When he told the real story of what happened on that bus, I sobbed uncontrollably. Missed a lot of dialog after. That’s where a pause button would have been nice. What a scene!

Some shows, like Person of Interest and Blacklist, are better before you get the personality of the characters overtaking the plot. Blacklist is still good, but the mystery of Reddington the international criminal in the beginning was exceptional. Now, after Mr. Kaplan did her best to destroy him, it seems like the show has changed to everyone trying to figure out Liz's next move. And she doesn't carry the role as well.

Novels are like that too. Lazy writers rely on stereotypes and other overused plot devices. Writers lacking skill creat characters who are either shallow or unlikeable. Both kinds reach for melodrama! Ugh. It’s a unique gift to create believable humans who are sympathetic in a story. Maybe it’s a dying art.
 

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Have any of you seen recent news stories about children who are literally unable to hold and use a pen or pencil? They lack grip strength and fine motor skills! In one story, the child is now going to occupational therapy!

Just wow. Playing ball, coloring books, skipping stones on a creek, gripping your bike handlebars... People roll their eyes at us oldsters when we express alarm that kids no longer do these things. That’s okay. Let the machines do the fine labor and we’ll just go to doctors for physical therapy because we can’t use our hands. All is well! All is well!

Okay. Rant over. :)
 

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Yes, I have seen those stories too, LA. I was shocked to say the least. I didn't start school until first grade, 3 months before my 7th birthday. They had kindergarten, but it wasn't a requirement. I could spell a little before I even went to first grade. My mom used to read to me fairly often. I loved to read, and picked it up quickly. Mom helped teach me how to write too. We started with those fat pencils first. We had to write the way our teacher told us. You did the grip they told you, which was the dynamic tripod. Funny I told my mom that story when I went to her house on Saturday. I asked her to hold a pen for me, so I could see how she did it. Sure enough she held it the same way I was taught.

When my kids were babies I read to them. Every day I read them at least one story. Most of the time we would read for a half hour a day. I don't think teachers even teach kids how to properly hold a pencil/pen these days. Cursive is not usually taught either. I think that is a big mistake. Most people retain their notes better if they write them out, vs. typing them out. My kids were not graded on penmanship either. I don't know what they do with that now. I doubt seriously if they grade them at all on it. Most young people I know struggle to read cursive, much less write with cursive! It is quicker with practice than printing. One of my kids HATED cursive with a passion. I struggled with certain letters starting out, but I wanted to write beautifully. Later I settled for legible. Now I practice a bit, because the legibility was falling. The practice has improved my writing once again.
 

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Well, another doctor visit, another month out of work. I am improving, but when he asked me if I could do my job without any restrictions I told him if you are asking me if I could climb on top of a load of lumber on a flatbed trailer and spread tarps, the answer is no. And if you are asking me if I could toss and secure straps to secure a load, I don't know if I could yet.
The Boss's Son and the HR manager agree I am just not ready yet. But another injection thursday and another month of PT, and maybe ....
 

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Yes, I have seen those stories too, LA. I was shocked to say the least. I didn't start school until first grade, 3 months before my 7th birthday. They had kindergarten, but it wasn't a requirement. I could spell a little before I even went to first grade. My mom used to read to me fairly often. I loved to read, and picked it up quickly. Mom helped teach me how to write too. We started with those fat pencils first. We had to write the way our teacher told us. You did the grip they told you, which was the dynamic tripod. Funny I told my mom that story when I went to her house on Saturday. I asked her to hold a pen for me, so I could see how she did it. Sure enough she held it the same way I was taught.

When my kids were babies I read to them. Every day I read them at least one story. Most of the time we would read for a half hour a day. I don't think teachers even teach kids how to properly hold a pencil/pen these days. Cursive is not usually taught either. I think that is a big mistake. Most people retain their notes better if they write them out, vs. typing them out. My kids were not graded on penmanship either. I don't know what they do with that now. I doubt seriously if they grade them at all on it. Most young people I know struggle to read cursive, much less write with cursive! It is quicker with practice than printing. One of my kids HATED cursive with a passion. I struggled with certain letters starting out, but I wanted to write beautifully. Later I settled for legible. Now I practice a bit, because the legibility was falling. The practice has improved my writing once again.

You are a fascinating and amazing person! How cool that you are practicing cursive again. I agree that it should be taught and penmanship graded. Fine motor skills and it teaches a striving for excellence, IMHO.

I also learned to read and write early. And I read every day to my kids. When they were older, we read through classics a little each night. I'd have to stop and explain a lot, but they loved it. Their favorite was Little Women.

When I homeschooled my oldest two, we had a daily dictation lesson. They were graded on penmanship, punctuation and accuracy of transcribing what was dictated. It was just 2 or 3 sentences. I would read it through once, then one more time. It taught listening comprehension! It was one of their favorite lessons of the day. It might help that we'd have tea and cookies during that lesson. :)

Declaration of Independence is in cursive...

Things that make you go hmmmmmm

You just blew my mind! I never even thought of that. But it sure does make me go hmmmmmm.
 

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Well, another doctor visit, another month out of work. I am improving, but when he asked me if I could do my job without any restrictions I told him if you are asking me if I could climb on top of a load of lumber on a flatbed trailer and spread tarps, the answer is no. And if you are asking me if I could toss and secure straps to secure a load, I don't know if I could yet.
The Boss's Son and the HR manager agree I am just not ready yet. But another injection thursday and another month of PT, and maybe ....
Poor Mamaw. :(
 

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So I sat down to eat dinner and I looked over and saw my remotes all lined up. My Grandma died 33 years ago and it occurred to me just how intimidated she would be with these remotes. She would have wanted nothing to do with them. 171 buttons between the three of them (one for the cable box, one for the A/V receiver, and one for the blu-ray player).

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So I sat down to eat dinner and I looked over and saw my remotes all lined up. My Grandma died 33 years ago and it occurred to me just how intimidated she would be with these remotes. She would have wanted nothing to do with them. 171 buttons between the three of them (one for the cable box, one for the A/V receiver, and one for the blu-ray player).

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I am amazed that you counted them :lol:
 

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