Heather's Heavenly Vapes - THE BIG THREAD (Part 6)

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I've heard of Seafoam, never used it. It is highly spoken of on a John Deere forum (of course, there also those who always say "snake oil" to everything) I'll give a try. I will be that if I took that carb apart I would a metering flapper that is stiff and the saw floods. Plulled the plug, it was saturated and so was the inside of the cylinder. After blowing it out, letting it dry and trying to started (no luck), pulled the plug, it and the cylinder were soaked in gas/oil mix.

Yeah, the gas these days is junk. The crap they have in their formulas are rough on those small engines. The additives help but it's still junk. You can buy those engineered fuels and they are near flawless but they aint cheap either. I put an ethanol additive in my fuel and I make sure I keep fresh fuel around. Once it sits for a couple months I dump it in my truck and get new. Can't be certain how much the additive helps. There are also fuel stabilizers in that additive and I believe many of the 2-cycle oils have stabilizers in them. Beyond that I will run some Seafoam in a tank of gas from time to time. Seafoam is pretty good for removing the varnish crap that these fuels leave behind. I even use Seafoam in my truck to clean the injectors. Does a real nice job. Dump a can in the fuel tank per the recommended ratio and run the tank down as far as I can. I have also used Marvel's Mystery Oil. Good stuff in fuel and the crankcase (so is Seafoam). Seafoam is more of a cleaner and Marvel's is more of a lubricator but I think there are elements of both in both.
 

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I've heard of Seafoam, never used it. It is highly spoken of on a John Deere forum (of course, there also those who always say "snake oil" to everything) I'll give a try. I will be that if I took that carb apart I would a metering flapper that is stiff and the saw floods. Plulled the plug, it was saturated and so was the inside of the cylinder. After blowing it out, letting it dry and trying to started (no luck), pulled the plug, it and the cylinder were soaked in gas/oil mix.
I ran a can of Seafoam in my truck not long ago after a long period of time without running any cleaners. I noticed a big difference. I had pulled the throttle body late last year and cleaned it inside out and was a little disappointed that it didn't have a bigger impact on knocking and peppiness. Ran the Seafoam and there was a noticeable improvement. Seafoam is like anything else I guess. If you have crudded up injectors you will notice a difference. If you dont, you wont. Some 90,000 miles ago my truck was running like crap (knocking, pinging, lethargic). Tried a fuel injector cleaner and it made no difference. Pulled the throttle body and cleaned it and it made a huge difference. Just depends on what is crudded up. I don't think the average person has any idea how many car issues are caused by gasoline these days.
 

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I ran a can of Seafoam in my truck not long ago after a long period of time without running any cleaners. I noticed a big difference. I had pulled the throttle body late last year and cleaned it inside out and was a little disappointed that it didn't have a bigger impact on knocking and peppiness. Ran the Seafoam and there was a noticeable improvement. Seafoam is like anything else I guess. If you have crudded up injectors you will notice a difference. If you dont, you wont. Some 90,000 miles ago my truck was running like crap (knocking, pinging, lethargic). Tried a fuel injector cleaner and it made no difference. Pulled the throttle body and cleaned it and it made a huge difference. I don't think the average person has any idea how many car issues are caused by gasoline these days.

I have used a product call "Chemtool B-12" in the Tacoma, every oil change along with emptying the P/S reservoir and re-filling, same with the Master cylinder, grease the drive shaft - ounce of prevention, pound of cure.
Next oil change I'l give Seafoam a shot.
 

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I have used a product call "Chemtool B-12" in the Tacoma, every oil change along with emptying the P/S reservoir and re-filling, same with the Master cylinder, grease the drive shaft - ounce of prevention, pound of cure.
Next oil change I'l give Seafoam a shot.
I'm thinking Seafoam or Marvel's would be best to use in the crankcase, say, a few hundred miles prior to your next oil change. Both will thin your oil and I'm not comfortable running thinner oil any longer than necessary. It certainly wont hurt anything over a few hundred miles and it will still clean most of the sludge buildup. Though modern oils have detergents in them that do a much better job of keeping sludge at a minimum compared to oils used years ago. Additionally, any sludge removal will end up in your filter and I'm a little wary of the filter's effectiveness once that happens. For these reasons I would run the Seafoam or Marvel's for just a few hundred miles prior to an oil change.
 
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Worry more about fuel than oil. I am a confirmed synthetic user, Mobil 1 or Penzoil rotate around each with its own detergent formulation. I change at 7500 miles after a Blackstone analysis a while back; they said I could extend it to 10,000 but I lack the ability to watch the odometer go round and round and not be nervous. (I grew up, oil and lube every 3000.) My driving is about 70/30 highway and no short runs, that oil gets to operating temperature every time I drive. I buy gas from stations that move a lot of gas per week but fuel seems the weak point, always as fresh as I can reasonably get.

I'm thinking Seafoam or Marvel's would be best to use in the crankcase, say, a few hundred miles prior to your next oil change. Both will thin your oil and I'm not comfortable running thinner oil any longer than necessary. It certainly wont hurt anything over a few hundred miles and it will still clean most of the sludge buildup. Though modern oils have detergents in them that do a much better job of keeping sludge at a minimum compared to oils used years ago. Additionally, any sludge removal will end up in your filter and I'm a little wary of the filter's effectiveness once that happens. For these reasons I would run the Seafoam or Marvel's for just a few hundred miles prior to an oil change.
 
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I like Seafoam, and it does help. I could use some of it right now. I also love Marvel Mystery Oil. I used to put that in my gas tank too. I was using Penzoil, but the guys at the oil change shop switched me over to synthetic without telling me. When I had more money, I used to use an expensive synthetic, but over the years I had to cut down on how I spent my money. I also used to use premium gas, but that was ages ago.
 

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Worry more about fuel than oil. I am a confirmed synthetic user, Mobil 1 or Penzoil rotate around each with its own detergent formulation. I change at 7500 miles after a Blackstone analysis a while back; they said I could extend it to 10,000 but I lack the ability to watch the odometer go round and round and not be nervous. (I grew up, oil and lube every 3000.) My driving is about 70/30 highway and no short runs, that oil gets to operating temperature every time I drive. I buy gas from stations that move a lot of gas per week but fuel seems the weak point, always as fresh as I can reasonably get.
I'm still a 3,000 mile guy. I saw with my own eyes growing up the difference frequent oil changes made so I have decided to stick with that approach to this day using conventional oils. While I believe synthetic oils break down slower than regular oils (and therefore, are superior) I remain uncertain they reduce/eliminate crud that also are damaging to engines. Good old draining is iron clad for getting rid of crud. And regular oils still have good life in them even after 3,000 miles in modern engines with the way we have improved our machining tolerances (even since the 60's).

Results: The Dodge is 26 years old w/175,000 miles and still does not leak or burn oil. The Jeep is 12 years old w/115,000 miles and still does not leak or burn oil. If changing how I do oil changes changes my results it can only change it in the wrong direction. There's a saying or two for this somewhere. :)
 

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I like Seafoam, and it does help. I could use some of it right now. I also love Marvel Mystery Oil. I used to put that in my gas tank too. I was using Penzoil, but the guys at the oil change shop switched me over to synthetic without telling me. When I had more money, I used to use an expensive synthetic, but over the years I had to cut down on how I spent my money. I also used to use premium gas, but that was ages ago.
I used to use premium too until I realized it was just a waste of money. Had a buddy in high school who worked at an airport (one of those for putt putt planes). He always used plane gas in his 351 Cougar. That stuff is like 104 octane. Ran great in his car. Then he didn't work there anymore so he had to go back to every man's fuel and his car never ran the same.
 

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I like Seafoam, and it does help. I could use some of it right now. I also love Marvel Mystery Oil. I used to put that in my gas tank too. I was using Penzoil, but the guys at the oil change shop switched me over to synthetic without telling me. When I had more money, I used to use an expensive synthetic, but over the years I had to cut down on how I spent my money. I also used to use premium gas, but that was ages ago.
Marvel's has been around for a hundred years and many mechanics still swear by it. Seafoam is good to run thru your fuel system once in awhile. Helps flush the gummy buildup. Not necessary all the time but every 10,000 miles is probably plenty good enuf. My fuel mileage increased 7% after I ran a tank with Seafoam in it. Wally World sells a can of Seafoam for $7 bucks.
 

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You're riding a winner, why change horses?

I'm still a 3,000 mile guy. I saw with my own eyes growing up the difference frequent oil changes made so I have decided to stick with that approach to this day using conventional oils. While I believe synthetic oils break down slower than regular oils (and therefore, are superior) I remain uncertain they reduce/eliminate crud that also are damaging to engines. Good old draining is iron clad for getting rid of crud. And regular oils still have good life in them even after 3,000 miles in modern engines with the way we have improved our machining tolerances (even since the 60's).

Results: The Dodge is 26 years old w/175,000 miles and still does not leak or burn oil. The Jeep is 12 years old w/115,000 miles and still does not leak or burn oil. If changing how I do oil changes changes my results it can only change it in the wrong direction. There's a saying or two for this somewhere. :)
 

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Morning.....I'm in the Columbus area.
I'll be driving through Columbus Saturday afternoon, heading to see DH in WV. I wish I had time for a meet-up, and that DH would go for such a thing..

That's about hour 12 of 14. I am psyching myself up for this drive:lol:. I did it once, but not by myself. I've got audio books ready.
 

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I'll be driving through Columbus Saturday afternoon, heading to see DH in WV. I wish I had time for a meet-up, and that DH would go for such a thing..

That's about hour 12 of 14. I am psyching myself up for this drive:lol:. I did it once, but not by myself. I've got audio books ready.
You can do it. But have either AAA or a firearm on hand. Or both. :)
 

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