Help me decide a mech mod please.

[edyle]

I like the idea of contact points to fire a battery to get a vape,and I think the basic electronics of a mech are simple as the negative side of the battery coming into contact with the firing button and the positive side of the battery send volts to the coil via atomizer post. Is that the basic electronics of it?

Maybe I'm missing something? If so let me know.

One thing you need to be mindfull of is that the 18650 battery is basically a negative can, and the cylinder of the can has the battery wrapper around it; that wrapper is not a real insulator, but in bottom fired mechs you are banking on that wrapper to act as an insulator, otherwise your mod will autofire continuously.

In fact I happen to have so far two batteries just standing there (i'm watching them now) unused - one for months and the other for weeks, because they have damage visible on the wrapper; in both cases it looks like they've been sliced (one sliced at the top and one sliced at the bottom) presumably from the mod threads while screwing the mod together; the nemesis threads are pretty fine: m20x0.5 so I believe that's the reason

 

[edyle]

Ok. Just ordered a nemesis SS clone with a pair of new 25r and a nightcore charger.
Also got an ohm reader.

What kind of problems do I need to avoid? Is it ok to take a battery off the charger and put it in the mech without a rest period?

I'd try to avoid that;

I have about 10 batts in a row; fifo: first in, first out.
there's a charging lineup, and an alreadycharged lineup.
when I pick up a fresh battery at the front of the line I know it has had time to rest;
when I put a battery in the charger, I know it has had time to rest because its been waiting in line.

 

[Bad Ninja]

One thing you need to be mindfull of is that the 18650 battery is basically a negative can, and the cylinder of the can has the battery wrapper around it; that wrapper is not a real insulator, but in bottom fired mechs you are banking on that wrapper to act as an insulator, otherwise your mod will autofire continuously.

A nemesis has a delrin lower insulator.
All mech mods aren't made the same.

In fact I happen to have so far two batteries just standing there (i'm watching them now) unused - one for months and the other for weeks, because they have damage visible on the wrapper; in both cases it looks like they've been sliced (one sliced at the top and one sliced at the bottom) presumably from the mod threads while screwing the mod together; the nemesis threads are pretty fine: m20x0.5 so I believe that's the reason

You must be rough on batteries.

The Nemesis threads are fine but not sharp.

Coarse threads are worse on wrappers.
Inspecting wrappers is a good thing.
(Older Chi you's had coarse threads and no lower insulators, but not the nemesis).

Personally, I use my torn batteries in a wooden box mech with a plastic battery sled.

 

[Adam harris]

I'd try to avoid that;

I have about 10 batts in a row; fifo: first in, first out.
there's a charging lineup, and an alreadycharged lineup.
when I pick up a fresh battery at the front of the line I know it has had time to rest;
when I put a battery in the charger, I know it has had time to rest because its been waiting in line.

I will be sure to check the condition of the battery wraps when they arrive.
If a charged battery sits unused full charge at 4.2v for a few day would it still keep charge?

 

[Adam harris]

A nemesis has a delrin lower insulator.
All mech mods aren't made the same.



You must be rough on batteries.

The Nemesis threads are fine but not sharp.

Coarse threads are worse on wrappers.
Inspecting wrappers is a good thing.
(Older Chi you's had coarse threads and no lower insulators, but not the nemesis).

Personally, I use my torn batteries in a wooden box mech with a plastic battery sled.

The main reason I got the nemesis was for that delrin insulator I'm ready for some nemesis vaping woot!!!

 

[93gc40]

Did I see you were going to run 2ohm?? If so I hope you also ordered a Kick Module.. 2ohm at 10watts, charge to charge is better than 6 to 9 watts depending on charge state.

Love my Kick in my Origin Mech. You get most of the safety of a regulated mod. and still get to use a mech. I stated using a mech before they were considered unsafe, way back last year. You just have to like vaping at 1.3ohms or more. I think the Kick2 does 1ohm. But fasttech kicks are less than $10. I run my mod in 18650 MODE, if vaping at 1.3 or more probably with the kick and a 18500 battery. My only regret with the mech is I should have gotten one that was 18650 solid tube only. Less seems.

 

[edyle]

I will be sure to check the condition of the battery wraps when they arrive.
If a charged battery sits unused full charge at 4.2v for a few day would it still keep charge?

a few days is fine;
if storing batts for months, then it is recommended to charge them to about 3.7 for storage

 

[javyn]

LOL don't mess with a damn kick. Until they figure out how to make one that will get you up to 30 watts using the same form factor, it's stupid.

Adam, if you have problems with your Nemesis just report them here. They can be a bit fiddly and a little confusing, especially if it's your first. But once you get it properly set up and adjusted, I think you will really like it.

 

[Adam harris]

LOL don't mess with a damn kick. Until they figure out how to make one that will get you up to 30 watts using the same form factor, it's stupid.

Adam, if you have problems with your Nemesis just report them here. They can be a bit fiddly and a little confusing, especially if it's your first. But once you get it properly set up and adjusted, I think you will really like it.

Yea I decided not to get a kick. The more I read about them the less I liked them. Ill just throw a .8ohm single coil and vape like a boss.
I will definitely let you know the outcome.

 

[Adam harris]

Did I see you were going to run 2ohm?? If so I hope you also ordered a Kick Module.. 2ohm at 10watts, charge to charge is better than 6 to 9 watts depending on charge state.

Love my Kick in my Origin Mech. You get most of the safety of a regulated mod. and still get to use a mech. I stated using a mech before they were considered unsafe, way back last year. You just have to like vaping at 1.3ohms or more. I think the Kick2 does 1ohm. But fasttech kicks are less than $10. I run my mod in 18650 MODE, if vaping at 1.3 or more probably with the kick and a 18500 battery. My only regret with the mech is I should have gotten one that was 18650 solid tube only. Less seems.

I might get one when they come out with a 30w kick

 

[Adam harris]

a few days is fine;
if storing batts for months, then it is recommended to charge them to about 3.7 for storage

Ok thanks!

 

[Nikea Tiber]

I'm surprised that nobody has mentioned that you can re-shrinkwrap batteries with a torn insulator provided it hasn't gotten a chance to short out on anything.

 

[93gc40]

I'm surprised that nobody has mentioned that you can re-shrinkwrap batteries with a torn insulator provided it hasn't gotten a chance to short out on anything.

Might have.. If this was a thread about Battery Care.

 

[Adam harris]

I'm surprised that nobody has mentioned that you can re-shrinkwrap batteries with a torn insulator provided it hasn't gotten a chance to short out on anything.

I didn't know that. Would black electrical tape work instead of shrink wrap?
Like 4 or 5 wraps to make sure it doesn't tear?

 

[sig-cmt]

So long as the wrapped cell still fits within your mech tube.

 

[bwh79]

I didn't know that. Would black electrical tape work instead of shrink wrap?
Like 4 or 5 wraps to make sure it doesn't tear?

Battery wraps are ten for a buck at battwrap.com, with $1 shipping. You apply them with a hair dryer. Do you have two dollars and a hair dryer?

 

[Adam harris]

Ok everyone just thought I'd let you know that the nemesis is working good with a derringer 26 gauge dual coil at .5ohm. My voltage on a fresh battery is right at 4.2v but when I put.the derringer with the build I mentioned then the voltage drop goes to 3.6v... I was like no way..that's a lot of voltage drop or battery sag! So I slapped my kayfun on it with a 1 ohm build and it dropped only .1 from 4.08 to 3.96 so I don't know what to think here.

Is a .6 voltage drop on a .5 ohm dual coil normal??
Well I just tested it again and there was only a .4 voltage drop..
So is .4-.6 voltage drop normal on a sub ohm dual coil??

 

[Nuchuga]

I would most definitely stay away from the stingray, i cant tell you how many have come into my shop that have either been broken or stop working. I would look into the SMPL mod, the Continuous Current Manhattan V2 clones, or the Rig clones. ALL hit hard, all are under 40 online, and all are easily obtainable!

 

[Adam harris]

I would most definitely stay away from the stingray, i cant tell you how many have come into my shop that have either been broken or stop working. I would look into the SMPL mod, the Continuous Current Manhattan V2 clones, or the Rig clones. ALL hit hard, all are under 40 online, and all are easily obtainable!

I got a nemesis clone but I will check out the ones you mentioned.
By chance would you know if a .6 voltage drop is normal on a .5 ohm dual coil?

 

[Nuchuga]

I got a nemesis clone but I will check out the ones you mentioned.
By chance would you know if a .6 voltage drop is normal on a .5 ohm dual coil?

A 0.6v drop is irregularly high whether it be a tank or RBA. If your output is 3.6 under load, I would go back and check/clean all your connections!