I doubt it. It's an important food supplement for dairy cows and you can buy gallons of it at farm supply stores all day long: E.g: Ideal Animal Health USP Propylene Glycol, 1 gal. - Tractor Supply Co.
How are you preparing for the vapocalypse?
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I'm not overly concerned about hardware. It's really low tech stuff and there's tons of it out there already. That battle is mostly lost at this point.If the Gov wants to impact hardware, all they have to do is go sealed/disposable only. That's my real concern.
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There are more of us (rational, thinking adults) than them
Rossum, I read the news, I see the polls, I listen to people. These three activities are rather discouraging and, certainly, validate your thought.
Don't buy into that line of propaganda.
They want you to believe most people are dumb and the government needs to protect those dumb people with bans and control measures.
You aren't responsible enough to own a gun, or raise a child, or choose what you eat, so the government does it for you.
It's false.
People aren't all stupid. They are getting lazy for sure, and it's taking a toll, but deep down inside they know better.
Lazy people want the government to "do" for them.
We do not elect leaders.
We do not elect people to decide for us.
We elect representatives of the will of the people.
They have to do what we decide, whether they like it or not. That's what we elect them for.
If your local politicians aren't doing what you want, vote them out and vote in someone who does.
That's what I was thinking too. I have a Tractor Supply a mile from my house, so I won't be worrying about that. Hardware is/was a concern for me because I absolutely don't want to be "forced" into purchasing any sealed cartridges at $5 a cartridge in my choice of TWO flavors.
Sadly, I don't think that's true anymore.
Unfortunately true. Irrationality is the norm -- like those idiots I run across in the comments sections of articles about vaping. They have this knee-jerk, unthinking AT ALL response to e-cigs: "a cigarette is a cigarette." Which just underlines the unfortunate nature of the name, but that ship has sailed. If they hear the word "cigarette" at all, they ASSUME (remember the cliche about assuming!) that an e-cigarette is just as bad, just as deadly, just as stinky -- without THE SLIGHTEST thought or experience which might inform their judgment a little better.
Idiots. I really hate idiots -- which is exactly why I'm basically a hermit -- idiots are running things, they're everywhere.
Andria
Unfortunately true. Irrationality is the norm -- like those idiots I run across in the comments sections of articles about vaping. They have this knee-jerk, unthinking AT ALL response to e-cigs: "a cigarette is a cigarette." Which just underlines the unfortunate nature of the name, but that ship has sailed. If they hear the word "cigarette" at all, they ASSUME (remember the cliche about assuming!) that an e-cigarette is just as bad, just as deadly, just as stinky -- without THE SLIGHTEST thought or experience which might inform their judgment a little better.
Idiots. I really hate idiots -- which is exactly why I'm basically a hermit -- idiots are running things, they're everywhere.
Andria
Personally, I believe the evolutionary premise found in the comedy "Idiocracy" may have actually been a cleverly veiled warning of a rapidly approaching reality.
Personally, I believe the evolutionary premise found in the comedy "Idiocracy" may have actually been a cleverly veiled warning of a rapidly approaching reality.
You're so absolutely right (and the clip is too), it's scary. My husband and I both have IQs around 150 -- we had one child, because that's all we could afford. Some people we lived near, at the time we first got married and had a baby, I doubt if this couple's COMBINED IQ was 100 -- and they had 5 children. Hell, they may have more by now. Because "social services" will pick up the tab!
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I totally agree, Plan A should not be stocking up. Plan A should be fight like hell. Get involved and do what you can. These regs are ridiculous. Sweet flavoured alcohol is not banned. You can buy whatever. No one is worrying about kids under age getting coconut vodka or whatever. It is time to really do your research, get in touch with the people that are active in this and join them for fighting for our rights. One more thing, how can big tobacco lead the people in anything? I received in the mail a coupon from them for an free e-cig and free tobacco flavoured cartridges. Real crazyness there. Threw that crap out. Please let us all get involved.
Who won the last two presidential elections? I see these results; I listen to our elected representative from the fifty-seven states (as enumerated by the last successful presidential candidate); I speak with many people, some appear intelligent, each day. I know that all of the intentional corruption of the constitutional republic has been chosen by a majority of voters. I have made judgements about whether the populace is wise or is otherwise.
I admire your optimism and wish you well, my gut tells me that you have far longer to work on this than do I.
No kidding! From what I can see, we elect representatives of the WILL OF THE CORPORATIONS!
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I used my coupon - it worked great for catching drips when I refilled my Reo bottle. lol
In all seriousness, if booze can be flavored (cotton candy vodka...seriously?! Give me good old fashioned Polish Potato Vodka and I'm happy!), cigars and pipe tobacco can be flavored (grape cigars? cherry and apple pipe tobacco?), we should be able to have at the VERY LEAST unflavored nicotine liquid. Unfortunately, Big ___________ (fill in the blank with whatever) doesn't seem to see things the smart way.
The problem Mightyj is that the FDA fully realizes how safe vaping is, lab analysis after lab analysis has indicated it's 1000x safer than smoking. This is why they resorted to the claim vaping is a stepping stone toward smoking for teens, it's all they've got to work with. Misinformation/propaganda presented as "news" has flooded the general public with false maligned information leading many to believe vaping is actually "worse" than smoking for a person's health. The news media isn't reporting any of the scientific data, only unsubstantiated negative claims from "questionable sources" which in itself should queue people in on where this is going. Fight the good fight by all means, but failing to plan/prepare for all possible outcomes would be imprudent.
I agree it is like a Punch and Judy show, vote for Punch or Judy one puppeteer animates both.
I often refer to it as battlefield prep. Turn all the non vapers against us with "for the children" crap and then drop the tax carpet bomb on us. They loose very few votes and the rest of the population thinks they've done a good thing. The average voter only gets their news from the alphabet networks if they watch news at all. My confidence in the voting public to see through the BS is not particularly high right now so I continue to stock up.
So true.
I have often thought politicians should be required to dress like professional race car drivers, in jumpsuits adorned with logos of all their corporate sponsors. That way the general public would know who (or what), they were "really" voting for. The interesting truth is, with the exception of one or two patches, the same jumpsuit could be worn by either party's candidate. Unfortunately, we wouldn't see any vape related logos which, to a great extent, is why we are under fire.
Personally, I believe the evolutionary premise found in the comedy "Idiocracy" may have actually been a cleverly veiled warning of a rapidly approaching reality.
I often wonder where I went wrong.
I have trevors IQ and trevons family.
I usually tell people that intelligent people have to keep the numbers up. The idiots are winning the populace war by a great margin these days...
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Plan A...
Stock up and fight like hell.
Plan B...
Use said stock and fight like hell.
ETA: Methinks both plans are viable and inevitable at this point. Seems many of the informed agree.
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Here it's banned right from the beginning, and still there's always a way around. There are hidden B&M that sell at outrageous prices, still we manage to get what we need. True, it's become almost crazily expensive, but, as with any hobby or habit, you cut corners. Life always finds a way.
Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that. -Carlin
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