How long have you hardcore vapers been planning for the "Vapeocalypse"?

[Rossum]

The vapeocalypse is ready to land in Europe as I type. Still, all I've "stockpiled" was a couple of nic base 100 ml bottles (one at 72mg and another at 100mg) because nicotine containing juices have been taxed at 60 cents per ml in Portugal and online sales have supposedly been banned.

That's 18,- Euros per 30ml bottle of juice in tax alone..

I'm curious, when did that tax go into effect?

And how many people were saying, "There's no reason to stockpile" in the months before it did?

 

[Two_Bears]

Has anyone been to fasttech lately?
Yesterday i figured I'd buy 5 or 6 mech clones. SLIM pickings. Ended up with 1 Nemi.
RDAs? 1 Origen, some mesh. Some parts.
Have to wonder if the hoarding has begun..

I would say that is a good bet. I would also bet there will be plenty of vape gear on the black market.

 

[Rossum]

Luckily I'm pretty old...so it's not like I have to try to plan for 40 or 50 years ahead!

The last thing I want is to wake up some morning, reach for my mod, find it empty, and think, "Today onward is really gonna suck. If I knew I was gonna live this long, I'd have bought more nic base back when it was legal and dirt cheap."

 

[Two_Bears]

Please read the fda deeming. This is not a joke.

Yiana: there are none so blind than those that refuse to see.

 

[herb]

I may be wrong, but I am convinced that the only item that we as vapers use that will be heavily taxed by various United States federal and/or local government agencies in the future will be anything containing nicotine. Yup, I think it's going to happen sooner or later.

Since I make my own juice, the only item I would consider stocking up on in the near future is Unflavored PG Base with Nicotine.

I'm not worried at all about any of the other stuff to include mods, batteries, atomizers, coil and wicks, USP glycerin, flavorings, etc ... I don't think these items will ever be outlawed or heavily taxed in the US.

I am not worried about mods either since the only thing that could go wrong with my regulated mods is the chipset failing , those won't be outlawed and i know how to easily replace those. Batteries will not be outlawed either, don't know about the other stuff.

Kanthal and cotton will always be available and luckily i have tanks that i can use indefinitely just by wrapping another.

I have about 4 mods total that i have been using from the beginning and they all work like new so stocking up on mods is far less important than Nicotine etc...

 

[Ablonz]

Yes, I have been stock piling for about 1 1/2 years. Lets just say I have acquired enough for the vaping ark.

I am riding with you......don't get me wrong, I'm good for at least 20 years with what I have.

 

[BreSha6869]

We have a similar view of things although I think the money does matter and I settled on rda's and am spoiled by temp control. Like you, nobody is taking this miracle away from me. In the mean time stockpiling has become one of the interesting parts of the hobby. But I won't let stockpiling become eccentric or a lame excuse to spend wastefully on hardware toys I don't need.

At this point severe restrictions are threatened but have yet to be imposed and might never be or there may be a grace period. With that in mind I choose to plan for 10 years years of self sufficiency and stockpile the bare minimum supplies for that. If I was starting from nothing that would cost $500 and fit in the brief case I used to carry to and from work. If the OMB lets the FDA have their way and there is a grace period I'll probably increase the stockpile some.

The easiest item to calculate is nic. 3 liters of 100 mg nic gets it done. If I go more than that I'd need more freezer capacity. That would mean a 1 cubic foot medical freezer and I would pack it with nic. I'd like to avoid that because it has to be monitored, defrosted, etc.

Atomizers are easy. RDA's from Fasttech.

The hardest one to calculate is the life expancy of the TC mods I favor. I hate buying mods I don't need because the technology is advancing rapidly right now. I'm still making do with the single TC mod I've been using since July but two more are on the way, a single cell and a dual cell. My best estimate is if I owned 5 $35 TC mods a couple of them might die young but at least one of them would still be working after 10 years, especially if two of them are stored as new and just tested a few times a year. I think the most vulnerable parts are the buttons embedded on the boards and the 510 threading. Corrosion is a risk if they are stored with batteries installed so never do that. I'll probably get some silica salts for mods I store long term.

Good post.

I think you are dead on.

I don't understand the people buying gallons and gallons of 100mg mic to freeze. One person on ECF posted about having 12+ gallons of nic in the freezer. Why? Who needs to stockpile enough nic to make 500-1000 litres of juice? I vape quite a bit but don't need a 200 year supply of nic. Lots of friends I guess.

In any case, I have enough nic for 15-20 years and couldn't be bothered buying something that needs to be stored in my freezer for longer than that. I like having it and actually enjoyed splitting it up into different sized Amber glass bottles, making my own labels (Avery envelope stickers), etc. Kinda cool knowing I can vape for years if the global supply of nic/juice dried up tomorrow.

Also, having 5-6 good mods and a bunch of tanks with RTA/RDAs is all else I need. I can't see all of my mods dying within 10 years.i don't see access to mods an issue moving forward anyways.

Good point on removing batteries and getting silica. Never thought I would actually buy that stuff.

 

[Boden]

Why are you nitpicking me about that now about the third time.

I use high VG juices so I list the VG first.

Why don't we agree to disagree and drop thus here.

Varily I drop thee thusly, un tootsweet.

 

[Two_Bears]

We have a similar view of things although I think the money does matter and I settled on rda's and am spoiled by temp control. Like you, nobody is taking this miracle away from me. In the mean time stockpiling has become one of the interesting parts of the hobby. But I won't let stockpiling become eccentric or a lame excuse to spend wastefully on hardware toys I don't need.

At this point severe restrictions are threatened but have yet to be imposed and might never be or there may be a grace period. With that in mind I choose to plan for 10 years years of self sufficiency and stockpile the bare minimum supplies for that. If I was starting from nothing that would cost $500 and fit in the brief case I used to carry to and from work. If the OMB lets the FDA have their way and there is a grace period I'll probably increase the stockpile some.

The easiest item to calculate is nic. 3 liters of 100 mg nic gets it done. If I go more than that I'd need more freezer capacity. That would mean a 1 cubic foot medical freezer and I would pack it with nic. I'd like to avoid that because it has to be monitored, defrosted, etc.

Atomizers are easy. RDA's from Fasttech.

The hardest one to calculate is the life expancy of the TC mods I favor. I hate buying mods I don't need because the technology is advancing rapidly right now. I'm still making do with the single TC mod I've been using since July but two more are on the way, a single cell and a dual cell. My best estimate is if I owned 5 $35 TC mods a couple of them might die young but at least one of them would still be working after 10 years, especially if two of them are stored as new and just tested a few times a year. I think the most vulnerable parts are the buttons embedded on the boards and the 510 threading. Corrosion is a risk if they are stored with batteries installed so never do that. I'll probably get some silica salts for mods I store long term.

Well in a few months the progression of Vaping tech will come to a screeching halt.

 

[Boden]

*cough* pg/vg *cough*

 

[Yiana]

Good post.

I think you are dead on.

I don't understand the people buying gallons and gallons of 100mg mic to freeze. One person on ECF posted about having 12+ gallons of nic in the freezer. Why? Who needs to stockpile enough nic to make 500-1000 litres of juice? I vape quite a bit but don't need a 200 year supply of nic. Lots of friends I guess.

In any case, I have enough nic for 15-20 years and couldn't be bothered buying something that needs to be stored in my freezer for longer than that. I like having it and actually enjoyed splitting it up into different sized Amber glass bottles, making my own labels (Avery envelope stickers), etc. Kinda cool knowing I can vape for years if the global supply of nic/juice dried up tomorrow.

Also, having 5-6 good mods and a bunch of tanks with RTA/RDAs is all else I need. I can't see all of my mods dying within 10 years.i don't see access to mods an issue moving forward anyways.

Good point on removing batteries and getting silica. Never thought I would actually buy that stuff.

The only reason I could see stockpiling gallons is if you mix for family and/or friends.

 

[Rossum]

The only reason I could see stockpiling gallons is if you mix for family and/or friends.

If the person being referenced here is who I think it is, that's exactly the reason.

Of course another reason would be "commodity speculation" and you can't buy nicotine futures on the Chicago Mercantile Exchange.

 

[Two_Bears]

Varily I drop thee thusly, un tootsweet.

Thanks now maybe I can stop looking over my shoulder.

 

[BreSha6869]

If the person being referenced here is who I think it is, that's exactly the reason.

Makes sense. Still a crapload of nic if you don't plan to distribute to LOTS of friends and family.

 

[HauntedMyst]

I have enough hardware to last a lifetime, minus kanthal which will be available long past the Vapeocalypse. Liquid wise, I have about a liter and a half of nic stored.

My question for those of you who have been stockpiling. How old is your oldest nic and is it still any good?

 

[HauntedMyst]

Yes, I have been stock piling for about 1 1/2 years. Lets just say I have acquired enough for the vaping ark.

Have the atomizers and mods been arriving two by two?

 

[daviedog]

Redundancy is the best insurance against loss. What if you dropped a liter by mixing? What about theft, fire, etc.
I bought 2 3 cubic ft. freezers, will store at GFs too.
Paranoid? You betcha!..

 

[herb]

Well in a few months the progression of Vaping tech will come to a screeching halt.

Temp control was the last real innovation that actually could improve the vape quality but other than that most mods , (beside design changes) do the same thing which is heat your topper .

I have never noticed any vape differences between mid priced mods and high priced mods , sure built better in general but definitely not a superior vaping experience .

 

[englishmick]

The last thing I want is to wake up some morning, reach for my mod, find it empty, and think, "Today onward is really gonna suck. If I knew I was gonna live this long, I'd have bought more nic base back when it was legal and dirt cheap."

Or you trip over the dog and your last mod hits the concrete. So you go to Craig's List and start thumbing through the list of used Pro Tanks with small crack in glass needs orings, hoping you find one you can afford.

 

[daviedog]

I have enough hardware to last a lifetime, minus kanthal which will be available long past the Vapeocalypse. Liquid wise, I have about a liter and a half of nic stored.

My question for those of you who have been stockpiling. How old is your oldest nic and is it still any good?

2&1/2 yrs. It's fine. When storing eliminate all air..