Well. I'm the best just ask anybody. If they don't agree then they are just too limited to see how great I am, so you should disregard their opinion.
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sadly...i go immediately on the defensive when opinion stated as fact.
me: wow, i'm cold
them: why? it's not cold!
*facepalm*
unfortunately a lot of ppl think the words you use make no difference and you should just KNOW what they meant
what if it is I who is the best?! huh? huh?
Read 6 pagea then decided to add my 2 cents.
I'm gonna reference the Apple versus Android fight because I think it fits perfectly here. For starters, let's set our variables. Classic analogs will be home phones, cigalikes will be basic phones, Provari will be Aple, and all other VV/VW mods will be Android.
In the beginning, we only had home phones, then this idea of a mobile telephone came out, and people were scared because it was a new idea. Slowly, the mobile phone took over, eventually leading people to drop home phones all together. These are the dedicated vapors. We picked up that cigalike because it's what we were comfortable with, just like the basic cell phones of the '90's. As phones progressed, we wanted more out of them, leadin people to add more features for us to play with. Eventually, the iPhone came out, and while it wasn't the firat smartphone, it was the most advanced and smartest of it's time. Thisis the Provari, advanced when it first came out over its competition, slowly beating all in sales. Unfortunaetly, just like Apple, Provari got comfortable where they are and didn't make any drastic changes, yet the consumer wanted more. In came Android, a more affordable smartphone operating system. Glitxhy at first, slow to take off, hard to grab the fanboys away from a tried and true method. But, through many iteriations, it progressed to the level of, and beyond, it's competition. This is other APV's. Last year, the Galaxy S3 outsold the iPhone, and really made put Android on the mapto bypass the iOS as an operating system. That's where we are at now. You have the fanboys who love their tried and true method who are afraid, or stubborn, to try something else. Those people will always exist. But, for those who, like Apple products, just want to turn on and use, the Provari exists. But, for the Android users who use Android what it's really for (a mobile Linux OS) there are so many more features that can be unlocked with another APV.
So, there ya go. the viewpoint of a cell phone fanatic. Sorry for any spelling errors, auto correct doesn't work on this site and I typed too fast to double check.
I'm gonna reference the Apple versus Android fight because I think it fits perfectly here. For starters, let's set our variables. Classic analogs will be home phones, cigalikes will be basic phones, Provari will be Aple, and all other VV/VW mods will be Android.
In the beginning, we only had home phones, then this idea of a mobile telephone came out, and people were scared because it was a new idea. Slowly, the mobile phone took over, eventually leading people to drop home phones all together. These are the dedicated vapors. We picked up that cigalike because it's what we were comfortable with, just like the basic cell phones of the '90's. As phones progressed, we wanted more out of them, leadin people to add more features for us to play with. Eventually, the iPhone came out, and while it wasn't the firat smartphone, it was the most advanced and smartest of it's time. Thisis the Provari, advanced when it first came out over its competition, slowly beating all in sales. Unfortunaetly, just like Apple, Provari got comfortable where they are and didn't make any drastic changes, yet the consumer wanted more. In came Android, a more affordable smartphone operating system. Glitxhy at first, slow to take off, hard to grab the fanboys away from a tried and true method. But, through many iteriations, it progressed to the level of, and beyond, it's competition. This is other APV's. Last year, the Galaxy S3 outsold the iPhone, and really made put Android on the mapto bypass the iOS as an operating system. That's where we are at now. You have the fanboys who love their tried and true method who are afraid, or stubborn, to try something else. Those people will always exist. But, for those who, like Apple products, just want to turn on and use, the Provari exists. But, for the Android users who use Android what it's really for (a mobile Linux OS) there are so many more features that can be unlocked with another APV.
So, there ya go. the viewpoint of a cell phone fanatic. Sorry for any spelling errors, auto correct doesn't work on this site and I typed too fast to double check.
there are "fanboys" for all things and that can be a good thing or a bad thing ....but the problem is when someone says if you do not have a provari your wasting your money. That will discourage many people from getting into vaping and exploring the many different mods out there. Not everyone needs or wants one so Yes if you own one and you like it let people know about it (how it works what features it has). But do not trash other mods! Provari is not the only mod out there and its not for everyone. Its just a different mod all be it a nice yet very expensive one. So peope just be nice share what you like and use and let people make their choice's with out having to read through attacks and flames. The most important thing is to help new people find what will help them kick the analogs.....
Or...... Maybe I want to be able to use my 10,000 + song itunes library on my mobile device...? Or maybe I don't like viruses attacking my software....? Or maybe I just want my phone to hold it's value for resale down the road...? Nope, I'm just too afraid to use something else.
Wow dude, you are so close minded, even to analogies.
And you are not just a liker, you are a hardcore fanboy, both of the Provari and of the iPhone.
Stepping up the assault from standard "fanboy"
To the next level with "hardcore fanboy"
The next step? Perhaps "Triple-Dog Fanboy". While this could constitute a slight breach of etiquette by bypassing the "Double-Dog Fanboy", I cannot rule it out at this point based on the thread up to this point.
To the next level with "hardcore fanboy"
The next step? Perhaps "Triple-Dog Fanboy". While this could constitute a slight breach of etiquette by bypassing the "Double-Dog Fanboy", I cannot rule it out at this point based on the thread up to this point.
Wow. I was going to reply again. But some people just are not worth the effort... Provari is the best. If somebody is new to vaping it's much better to ask them to drop the near 250 for a setup that might not be what they like (VW?) It is foolish to think anybody anybody might be just as happy with an ego twist, a mechanical mod, a hybrid, angry birds or even just a basic cigalike. It's not about helping the vaper find what works for them it's about making them feel guilty for not owning a specific device. This is the definition of "supporting and helping".
At 7:30 in the morning, I had to make sure I was reading the sarcasm in this.
this community used to be about helping and supporting each other - after all we have the same interest and goal in mind.
Why even make a thread like this? There should be a whine section where people can ..... and moan.
Nobody is going to argue that you can use whatever device fits your needs. There was a time all I needed was the VV Madvapes Box for $35. It gets the job done nicely.
This topic reminds me when there was the big divide between Provari 'fans' and Darwin 'fans'. There should be no reason to attack each other. Channel that energy to continue legislative efforts rather than causing uproar in our community.
Vape hard - Vape with w/e device works best for you.
Why even make a thread like this? There should be a whine section where people can ..... and moan.
Nobody is going to argue that you can use whatever device fits your needs. There was a time all I needed was the VV Madvapes Box for $35. It gets the job done nicely.
This topic reminds me when there was the big divide between Provari 'fans' and Darwin 'fans'. There should be no reason to attack each other. Channel that energy to continue legislative efforts rather than causing uproar in our community.
Vape hard - Vape with w/e device works best for you.
I don't bother anymore I just hang out in live chat. So tired of hearing Provari or MBV it's making me sick. Newbies recommending stuff to newbies, people trying DIY before learning the basics, buying RBAs as starting devices.
Fan boys are in effect killing people's chances at quitting because they think what they like is the only option or best option for everyone. When it doesn't work they are nowhere to be found yet they still make a thousand threads stroking their own egos.
For the record I own 2 Provari's so don't give me the "you gotta try it to understand" line.
Fan boys are in effect killing people's chances at quitting because they think what they like is the only option or best option for everyone. When it doesn't work they are nowhere to be found yet they still make a thousand threads stroking their own egos.
For the record I own 2 Provari's so don't give me the "you gotta try it to understand" line.
You know what on the grand scale of things I AM a newbie. I also don't try to give serious advice on anything I haven't got the experience with. But if someone posts about the ego tank system which is something I HAVE had recent experience with I am by god going to jump in and tell them what I do know. Newbies helping newbies isn't all a bad thing.
That said I do agree that just making noise to feel important or trying to jump in on something one knows nothing at all about is silly.
There is nothing wrong with speaking from experience, that's the point of this place. My issue is this...
Say I've only owned 1 device and ordered juice from 3 places and proclaim them the best. How do I know?
I've tried 500+ flavors from probably 50+ vendors and still hear about some I've never heard of. Do I know they aren't as good as my favorite, nope. I think giving advice based on your experience is good if you are drawing from a decent pool of it. Thinking everyone is the same is a huge mistake, I know people who are still quite happy on KR808D cigalikes.
You guys are right..... I'm going back to smoking. Selling my gear cheap, but none of you would want something as basic as plain old VV so I guess someone else will get a deal. I'm learning so much on this forum.... Too bad most of it is about human nature than about vaping and vape gear. See ya.
I actually agree with you. In fact in this thread I have been advocating people being clear that something is "In their opinion" rather than making a blanket statement that something is the best. Because for everyone things are not the same.
An example: I don't think there is anything wrong with me saying "I don't like the ego tank system" or "I really love the Kanger Pro tank". In both cases I am expressing my opinion without claiming it is the only solution. Mearly that I personally like or dislike something.
As for flavors that is WAY to variable from one person to the next to ever go beyond "I like x".
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