I Must State This

[Arnie H]

Firstly, It has never been my intention to break forum rules but because I can not follow up in my previous threads , I must post this here. If I am banned because of it, well then, I want to at least be given a chance to respond and be heard.

I want it known that if the concept of clones makes you angry, or if you think they are ripping off other peoples work, please, in the name of all that is holy, do not direct your ire towards the purchasers of these items, who are often new vapers, those who simply cannot afford the real things, and those who just refuse to overspend.

Instead this animosity needs to be directed at the clone/replica makers NOT at fellow vapers. This just creates a chasm and alienates others. I personally do not need/want any markings/logo's/ on my devices. The purchasers of these devices have NO CONTROL over what is put on them. By analogy, If you to wish to fight a war on drugs, you need to target the large cartels that are bringing these things into the country, not the poor addicts! Don't arrest the person who recieves and attempts to spend a counterfeit bill (the average person is not a currency expert), instead go after those who are printing these bills up.

 

[Train2]

Seems fairly reasonable to me.

 

[suspectK]

I was looking at this:
http://www.fasttech.com/products/1516302

 

[Caridwen]

I see more grief given to member's here that state they don't believe in purchasing counterfeits/clones than the one's that do.

 

[Butters78]

I think it's wrong when they use the exact markings.

 

[Susan W.]

I really don't care what other people purchase and use. If it works for them, that's great. There are always going to be companies/vendors that clone or copy. This isn't just with e-cig stuff, it's with everything.

 

[suspectK]

Well, pay the difference for the "real" metal tube, and I'll use it..

 

[joeybear]

Some people take themselves too serioiusly when no one else does. It's life.

 

[Jayvaps]

How about clones of clones? I saw the russian was cloned and selling out of china for like $25.

I have no problem with people buying clones, as long as people are not trying to sell them as the real thing.

 

[mekc57]

The problem I've run into is that many/most of the real things are never in stock and all you can find is a good clone. Thats if you don't want to be on a waiting list for 6 months

 

[InTheClouds]

Firstly, It has never been my intention to break forum rules but because I can not follow up in my previous threads , I must post this here. If I am banned because of it, well then, I want to at least be given a chance to respond and be heard.

I want it known that if the concept of clones makes you angry, or if you think they are ripping off other peoples work, please, in the name of all that is holy, do not direct your ire towards the purchasers of these items, who are often new vapers, those who simply cannot afford the real things, and those who just refuse to overspend.

Instead this animosity needs to be directed at the clone/replica makers NOT at fellow vapers. This just creates a chasm and alienates others. I personally do not need/want any markings/logo's/ on my devices. The purchasers of these devices have NO CONTROL over what is put on them. By analogy, If you to wish to fight a war on drugs, you need to target the large cartels that are bringing these things into the country, not the poor addicts! Don't arrest the person who recieves and attempts to spend a counterfeit bill (the average person is not a currency expert), instead go after those who are printing these bills up.

Makes perfect logical sense to me, especially when I think of all the garbage I bought when I was new because I did not know any better, "they look the same, says they do the same thing, I'll save a few dollars and buy this one".

 

[Caridwen]

How about clones of clones? I saw the russian was cloned and selling out of china for like $25.

I have no problem with people buying clones, as long as people are not trying to sell them as the real thing.

Oh that's going to happen. Even this forum with the rules we have against selling counterfeits, people still list them. It'll happen on a forum that's not quite as vigilant.

 

[BCWDragon]

I agree with this. For me I would purchase a clone due to money constraints. (those are caused by the wife not wanting me to spend a ton on vapeing ) Also I typically would rather have 1 mech 1 vv/vw 1 tube 1 box mod then 1 high end mod. Just my personal reasons that I don't think people that buy clones should get bashed.

 

[joeybear]

For some people, it's just about variety and frugality. I have clones, a bunch of them, and original mods...a bunch of them too. Guess what, they all work the same.

 

[Jayvaps]

Oh that's going to happen. Even this forum with the rules we have against selling counterfeits, people still list them. It'll happen on a forum that's not quite as vigilant.

oh sure, I know it will happen. And it is not only in the e-cig industry.

 

[peterforpats]

my only problem with clones is they are so limited- why doesn't someone clone a cadillac ats for around 8-10k and i be a happy camper........

 

[tfnc]

my only problem with clones is they are so limited- why doesn't someone clone a cadillac ats for around 8-10k and i be a happy camper........

Here ya go
Cadillac ATS Soon Made In China | The Truth About Cars

 

[klynnn]

I just don't understand why anyone cares what I or anyone else buys. If you want it and can afford it get it. That's half the problem in this country- some people want to tell everyone else what is best for them.

 

[CommaHolly]

I'm thinking everything is a clone of a clone at this point

However, if someone really feels it's against their moral code to not use clones,,,,,,,,I'm fine with it.

Provided they don't tell ME what to use.

having said that,,,,,,,,I am a little uncomfortable with cloning anything EXACTLY,,,,,,markings, numbers, etc.

ETA: but I won't tell YOU to be uncomfortable with it

 

[joeybear]

I'm thinking everything is a clone of a clone at this point

RUBBISH!! All metal tubes with a battery that fires a heating element on a tank connector made in the US are unique!!