If you couldn't vape anymore

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ENAUD

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And then I've known people that quit cold turkey successfully....... for ten years They've gone back to smoking. True story. He was soooo rabid about telling me to just quit. So anti smoking. ...... me the :censored: off. You know that feeling when people push and you just smoke more. Uh huh.

THAT is what I fear. Sure I might be able to give up vaping. What happens years from now? If my vapes disappeared right now I might make it without smoking. For how long though?
My dad was a heavy smoker into his thirties, when my mom got diagnosed with lung cancer, and had the top lobe of her right lung removed, he quit.

He never took it up again, but was a very vocal anti smoking person...he was badgering me about my vaping the last time I was up north visiting, and I said to him...you know what dad, YOU are still addicted to smoking! This is the only thing that has kept me off of smoking and you are giving me grief about it. I said, can you tell me honestly that you could smoke one cigarette, right now, and not start again? He has never mentioned my vaping again.
 

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My dad was a heavy smoker into his thirties, when my mom got diagnosed with lung cancer, and had the top lobe of her right lung removed, he quit.

He never took it up again, but was a very vocal anti smoking person...he was badgering me about my vaping the last time I was up north visiting, and I said to him...you know what dad, YOU are still addicted to smoking! This is the only thing that has kept me off of smoking and you are giving me grief about it. I said, can you tell me honestly that you could smoke one cigarette, right now, and not start again? He has never mentioned my vaping again.
That is so true! Makes one wonder if the zealotry from former smokers is the fear they harbor that they really could go back to smoking so easily.

Food for thought..

Makes me look at them with different eyes.
 

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Didn't think about this, and kind of feel bad that some mentioned it in their posts...

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Don't feel bad, you started a pretty cool thread. From a lot of the responses, it seemed to me that a bunch of us took stock of where we're at and where we might be in a what if situation. Forecasting our future decisions based on our past experiences is just a guess, but there seems to be a common underlying fear among more than a few, that our past failures at quitting smoking might be manifested if vaping were taken out of the picture. The truth is nobody will actually know unless such an occurrence does appear for us. I'd like to think that I could survive such a thing and abstain , but there is that underlying itch that it might not be so. I've spent a bit of time soul searching with this thread in mind, that's not such a bad thing to do once in a while.
 

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When my family heard that I had quit the coffin nails and switched over to vaping they were very supportive, well, then there is my brother who just makes fun of everything I do.
He couldn't live without Craigslist, he would start smoking if Craigslist disappeared.
Bot, prohibition didn't stop alcohol so I don't see anything stopping vape.
If something does stop it, our secret password will be 8FDA among the underground(and I don't mean the train.[emoji16])

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Don't feel bad, you started a pretty cool thread. From a lot of the responses, it seemed to me that a bunch of us took stock of where we're at and where we might be in a what if situation. Forecasting our future decisions based on our past experiences is just a guess, but there seems to be a common underlying fear among more than a few, that our past failures at quitting smoking might be manifested if vaping were taken out of the picture. The truth is nobody will actually know unless such an occurrence does appear for us. I'd like to think that I could survive such a thing and abstain , but there is that underlying itch that it might not be so. I've spent a bit of time soul searching with this thread in mind, that's not such a bad thing to do once in a while.
Thanks.....on the surface it just seemed like a basic question but really gets into just how bad addiction really is

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Thanks.....on the surface it just seemed like a basic question but really gets into just how bad addiction really is

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And just how fortunate we all were finding vaping however we each did.
 

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Addiction or dependency or habit? At what point do we move onto each phase?
For me, addiction requires a physical response from withdrawal. For me, absence of nicotine causes a sort of scrambled brain effect, inability to focus on anything, confusion, and anger. These effects don't go away in my case even months after withdrawal, at least, they didn't the one time I went cold turkey for about three months. At that time I almost lost my job, and my wife at the time shoved a cigarette into my hand with a lighter, and said, either smoke it, or get out! I could feel the nicotine hit my brain, and the change was night and day in my personality and cognitive abilities. It was like I flipped a switch and was "normal" again. :(

My doctors always brushed off what I told them regarding this. They just can't seem to comprehend it.
 

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For me, addiction requires a physical response from withdrawal. For me, absence of nicotine causes a sort of scrambled brain effect, inability to focus on anything, confusion, and anger. These effects don't go away in my case even months after withdrawal, at least, they didn't the one time I went cold turkey for about three months. At that time I almost lost my job, and my wife at the time shoved a cigarette into my hand with a lighter, and said, either smoke it, or get out! I could feel the nicotine hit my brain, and the change was night and day in my personality and cognitive abilities. It was like I flipped a switch and was "normal" again. :(

My doctors always brushed off what I told them regarding this. They just can't seem to comprehend it.

Some have come to the realization that some smokers are self medicating. I truly believe that IS true.
 

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For me, addiction requires a physical response from withdrawal. For me, absence of nicotine causes a sort of scrambled brain effect, inability to focus on anything, confusion, and anger. These effects don't go away in my case even months after withdrawal, at least, they didn't the one time I went cold turkey for about three months. At that time I almost lost my job, and my wife at the time shoved a cigarette into my hand with a lighter, and said, either smoke it, or get out! I could feel the nicotine hit my brain, and the change was night and day in my personality and cognitive abilities. It was like I flipped a switch and was "normal" again. :(

My doctors always brushed off what I told them regarding this. They just can't seem to comprehend it.
You just read page 1 of 5 side effects of Chantix.

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Enaud, in your case I don't believe that would constitute addiction. I think it is more of a dependency. Your are dependent on nic to keep you level.
That works for me :) and I plan to keep it that way for a VERY long time ;)
 
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