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Not sure if any of you got this from omvapors or not yet.

Newsletter August 19th

Time for more sales and another wave of need-to-know customer information brought to you by our Big Brother, the FDA. Please read this newsletter through to the end (it’s not that long!) as we have important changes to announce for the order process concerning ID’s and changes to our post-order system that will affect many of you moving forward.

Sale:
Help the FDA choke on a cloud by using coupon code “EatCloudsFDA” to blow some premium e-liquid into their pompous faces. This coupon is for 50% off and applies to our 2016, Reincarnation, Om Express, and DIY lines. Order must be greater than $25 after applying discounts for it to apply. Orders over $25 still receive free DOMESTIC shipping (applies to continental US orders only).

Legal Stuff (Revised):
All customers must now submit a photo ID to verify age and address. ALL CUSTOMERS. Photo ID will prove you are 18 or older and that you have an address that matches either the billing or shipping address of the order. We require all customers from California, NYC, and Hawaii to submit a Photo ID verifying that they are over 21 to remain in compliance with those local laws. Per the same FDA regulations, it is required you submit your photo ID upon every order. They have made it so we cannot save your customer information and use it repetitively. However, we now have a feature during checkout that will allow you to upload your photo to cut out the email step. Just make sure you upload a photo with your order. Make sure to include the invoice number of the order in the subject line. Any order placed without following the verification procedures will be forfeited.

New Policies:
We have had a huge upswing in problems related to changing orders after they have been place, buyer’s remorse where people no longer wish to consume our product and want their orders canceled and refunded (oftentimes after they’ve already been mailed out), and a slew of other problems. This is consuming 30+ operation hours per week as a result, and is hamstringing our abilities to remain efficient. As a result, we now have the following rules:

  • All Sales are FINAL! We box it, you buy it.
  • Refunds. If you contact us before we box your order, we will work with you on a refund. This is not a guarantee of refund. There will be a 25% restocking fee if we are able to refund your order before it is in the hands of the Post Office.
  • Changes to Orders. There will be a $5 charge from here forward to alter an order. This is not a guarantee that your order will be changed. You are given ample opportunity to amend your order before you finalize it. Please be certain you select what you want before you complete the order, or fixing it will cost you.
We strive for 100% customer satisfaction, but we cannot continue to sacrifice large quantities of man hours to rectify situations that are easily avoided. Please understand and be careful with all future orders.

In Closing:
This is not our most pleasant newsletter. We had to cover a lot of the boring and nasty stuff to help you guys understand why we have to make changes in the way we conduct business. The FDA is doing their best to kill our industry. With this fight, we have to run simply and efficiently to continue to thrive, which means being sterner with finalized orders. We cannot do massive sales and offer low prices for the highest quality e-liquid on the market if we continue to dedicate dozens of man hours to helping people change their minds about our products. If you have questions, please ask before you order. We are always happy to help, especially when the help is preemptive.

Check us out below!
[Shop now] (Om Vapors Premium WTA E-Liquid)

[Facebook] (https://facebook.com/omvape)

[Twitter] (https://twitter.com/omvape)

[Instagram] (https://instagram.com/omvape)

[Juice DB] (https://www.juicedb.com/business/2747/om-vapors)
 

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The handy-dandy Google Doc List has "VapeShop => Bluecheck"...

Since their prices are so low, shipping is so fast and because I needed some stuff...I decided it would be worth it to put up with any Bluecheck Hassles...

Since I had ordered from them before...I hit "Sign In" => filled cart => checked out...

Check out was effortless ("invisible" Age Verification)...and there was NO requirement for SSN (or last 4)...

Perhaps they should be listed in the "Unknown" category???

VapeShop - The Best Shop For The Best Vape


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The handy-dandy Google Doc List has "VapeShop => Bluecheck"...

Since their prices are so low, shipping is so fast and because I needed some stuff...I decided it would be worth it to put up with any Bluecheck Hassles...

Since I had ordered from them before...I hit "Sign In" => filled cart => checked out...

Check out was effortless ("invisible" Age Verification)...and there was NO requirement for SSN (or last 4)...

Perhaps they should be listed in the "Unknown" category???

VapeShop - The Best Shop For The Best Vape


..
I'll check them out 'cause the cautious part of me
just won't let me go to Omvapors or the like. Nothing like giving out a photo ID with addy ETC along with your CC number. That's like begging for identity theft.
That would only benefit the IRS who would then take a year to send your income tax return
until they verify your identity is YOUR identity. This gets stranger by the minute.
 

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Now that you got all of us to check our email
what does your email from PP say?

Mostly what they did was reword and reformat to make it easier for us lay people to understand. I'm sure there are some additions in there but I'm procrastinating reading it. :facepalm:
 

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Not sure if any of you got this from omvapors or not yet.

Newsletter August 19th

Time for more sales and another wave of need-to-know customer information brought to you by our Big Brother, the FDA. Please read this newsletter through to the end (it’s not that long!) as we have important changes to announce for the order process concerning ID’s and changes to our post-order system that will affect many of you moving forward.

Sale:
Help the FDA choke on a cloud by using coupon code “EatCloudsFDA” to blow some premium e-liquid into their pompous faces. This coupon is for 50% off and applies to our 2016, Reincarnation, Om Express, and DIY lines. Order must be greater than $25 after applying discounts for it to apply. Orders over $25 still receive free DOMESTIC shipping (applies to continental US orders only).

Legal Stuff (Revised):
All customers must now submit a photo ID to verify age and address. ALL CUSTOMERS. Photo ID will prove you are 18 or older and that you have an address that matches either the billing or shipping address of the order. We require all customers from California, NYC, and Hawaii to submit a Photo ID verifying that they are over 21 to remain in compliance with those local laws. Per the same FDA regulations, it is required you submit your photo ID upon every order. They have made it so we cannot save your customer information and use it repetitively. However, we now have a feature during checkout that will allow you to upload your photo to cut out the email step. Just make sure you upload a photo with your order. Make sure to include the invoice number of the order in the subject line. Any order placed without following the verification procedures will be forfeited.

New Policies:
We have had a huge upswing in problems related to changing orders after they have been place, buyer’s remorse where people no longer wish to consume our product and want their orders canceled and refunded (oftentimes after they’ve already been mailed out), and a slew of other problems. This is consuming 30+ operation hours per week as a result, and is hamstringing our abilities to remain efficient. As a result, we now have the following rules:

  • All Sales are FINAL! We box it, you buy it.
  • Refunds. If you contact us before we box your order, we will work with you on a refund. This is not a guarantee of refund. There will be a 25% restocking fee if we are able to refund your order before it is in the hands of the Post Office.
  • Changes to Orders. There will be a $5 charge from here forward to alter an order. This is not a guarantee that your order will be changed. You are given ample opportunity to amend your order before you finalize it. Please be certain you select what you want before you complete the order, or fixing it will cost you.
We strive for 100% customer satisfaction, but we cannot continue to sacrifice large quantities of man hours to rectify situations that are easily avoided. Please understand and be careful with all future orders.

In Closing:
This is not our most pleasant newsletter. We had to cover a lot of the boring and nasty stuff to help you guys understand why we have to make changes in the way we conduct business. The FDA is doing their best to kill our industry. With this fight, we have to run simply and efficiently to continue to thrive, which means being sterner with finalized orders. We cannot do massive sales and offer low prices for the highest quality e-liquid on the market if we continue to dedicate dozens of man hours to helping people change their minds about our products. If you have questions, please ask before you order. We are always happy to help, especially when the help is preemptive.

Check us out below!
[Shop now] (Om Vapors Premium WTA E-Liquid)

[Facebook] (https://facebook.com/omvape)

[Twitter] (https://twitter.com/omvape)

[Instagram] (https://instagram.com/omvape)

[Juice DB] (https://www.juicedb.com/business/2747/om-vapors)
But, but...
 

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The handy-dandy Google Doc List has "VapeShop => Bluecheck"...

Since their prices are so low, shipping is so fast and because I needed some stuff...I decided it would be worth it to put up with any Bluecheck Hassles...

Since I had ordered from them before...I hit "Sign In" => filled cart => checked out...

Check out was effortless ("invisible" Age Verification)...and there was NO requirement for SSN (or last 4)...

Perhaps they should be listed in the "Unknown" category???

VapeShop - The Best Shop For The Best Vape


..

Thanks, I'll look into it.
 

tmcase

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Not sure if any of you got this from omvapors or not yet.

Newsletter August 19th

Time for more sales and another wave of need-to-know customer information brought to you by our Big Brother, the FDA. Please read this newsletter through to the end (it’s not that long!) as we have important changes to announce for the order process concerning ID’s and changes to our post-order system that will affect many of you moving forward.

Sale:
Help the FDA choke on a cloud by using coupon code “EatCloudsFDA” to blow some premium e-liquid into their pompous faces. This coupon is for 50% off and applies to our 2016, Reincarnation, Om Express, and DIY lines. Order must be greater than $25 after applying discounts for it to apply. Orders over $25 still receive free DOMESTIC shipping (applies to continental US orders only).

Legal Stuff (Revised):
All customers must now submit a photo ID to verify age and address. ALL CUSTOMERS. Photo ID will prove you are 18 or older and that you have an address that matches either the billing or shipping address of the order. We require all customers from California, NYC, and Hawaii to submit a Photo ID verifying that they are over 21 to remain in compliance with those local laws. Per the same FDA regulations, it is required you submit your photo ID upon every order. They have made it so we cannot save your customer information and use it repetitively. However, we now have a feature during checkout that will allow you to upload your photo to cut out the email step. Just make sure you upload a photo with your order. Make sure to include the invoice number of the order in the subject line. Any order placed without following the verification procedures will be forfeited.

New Policies:
We have had a huge upswing in problems related to changing orders after they have been place, buyer’s remorse where people no longer wish to consume our product and want their orders canceled and refunded (oftentimes after they’ve already been mailed out), and a slew of other problems. This is consuming 30+ operation hours per week as a result, and is hamstringing our abilities to remain efficient. As a result, we now have the following rules:

  • All Sales are FINAL! We box it, you buy it.
  • Refunds. If you contact us before we box your order, we will work with you on a refund. This is not a guarantee of refund. There will be a 25% restocking fee if we are able to refund your order before it is in the hands of the Post Office.
  • Changes to Orders. There will be a $5 charge from here forward to alter an order. This is not a guarantee that your order will be changed. You are given ample opportunity to amend your order before you finalize it. Please be certain you select what you want before you complete the order, or fixing it will cost you.
We strive for 100% customer satisfaction, but we cannot continue to sacrifice large quantities of man hours to rectify situations that are easily avoided. Please understand and be careful with all future orders.

In Closing:
This is not our most pleasant newsletter. We had to cover a lot of the boring and nasty stuff to help you guys understand why we have to make changes in the way we conduct business. The FDA is doing their best to kill our industry. With this fight, we have to run simply and efficiently to continue to thrive, which means being sterner with finalized orders. We cannot do massive sales and offer low prices for the highest quality e-liquid on the market if we continue to dedicate dozens of man hours to helping people change their minds about our products. If you have questions, please ask before you order. We are always happy to help, especially when the help is preemptive.

Check us out below!
[Shop now] (Om Vapors Premium WTA E-Liquid)

[Facebook] (https://facebook.com/omvape)

[Twitter] (https://twitter.com/omvape)

[Instagram] (https://instagram.com/omvape)

[Juice DB] (https://www.juicedb.com/business/2747/om-vapors)

Holy crap! :ohmy: I'll add to list. Thanks SG.
 

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Mostly what they did was reword and reformat to make it easier for us lay people to understand. I'm sure there are some additions in there but I'm procrastinating reading it. :facepalm:
Well, at least being considered a "lay" person is encouraging...
 

HazyShades

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I'll check them out 'cause the cautious part of me
just won't let me go to Omvapors or the like. Nothing like giving out a photo ID with addy ETC along with your CC number. That's like begging for identity theft.
That would only benefit the IRS who would then take a year to send your income tax return
until they verify your identity is YOUR identity. This gets stranger by the minute.

Ha! Talking to myself again...Seriously though, the reason I mentioned the IRS is that
this happened to me. My ID was compromised through fault of either an online merchant
or USPS, somebody filed a fraudulent Income tax return using the info
and then when I filed my return it took the IRS over nine months to send it to me and it took me
several months of my proving my identity to them.

This age verification thing is or can easily turn into a much bigger can of worms than it seems.
 

oplholik

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The handy-dandy Google Doc List has "VapeShop => Bluecheck"...

Since their prices are so low, shipping is so fast and because I needed some stuff...I decided it would be worth it to put up with any Bluecheck Hassles...

Since I had ordered from them before...I hit "Sign In" => filled cart => checked out...

Check out was effortless ("invisible" Age Verification)...and there was NO requirement for SSN (or last 4)...

Perhaps they should be listed in the "Unknown" category???

VapeShop - The Best Shop For The Best Vape


..
Thanks for posting that, maybe they changed and haven't up dated their home page.
 

tmcase

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The handy-dandy Google Doc List has "VapeShop => Bluecheck"...

Since their prices are so low, shipping is so fast and because I needed some stuff...I decided it would be worth it to put up with any Bluecheck Hassles...

Since I had ordered from them before...I hit "Sign In" => filled cart => checked out...

Check out was effortless ("invisible" Age Verification)...and there was NO requirement for SSN (or last 4)...

Perhaps they should be listed in the "Unknown" category???

VapeShop - The Best Shop For The Best Vape


..

I hope they aren't using Bluecheck for your sake because this is very scary and it is in their policy terms: They collect IP address, the equipment you use to access their website, usage details (and probably driver’s license) - that part in red was me. They do store info on their server and share with subsidiaries, affiliates, contractors, service providers and other third parties they use to support their business.

You wouldn't know they are doing this by going through their checkout. :(
 

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