List of vendors Age Verification requirements.

[Burnie]

Nicoticket, you can call in an order and they will send it "Sign on receipt". Asked him in this thread.
Age Verifcation: A Primer

 

[oplholik]

Sounds right on Str8.

 

[tmcase]

Veratad has been providing age verification services to online tobacco retailers for well over a decade and is one of the oldest most experienced online age/identity verification services available. Their service provides vendors with legal compliance under current laws and they do this discreetly -without- storing personal information or sharing/selling personal information to third parties. I make NETs and purchase the tobacco they're made with from the same online pipe tobacco & cigar vendors I used back when I "smoked", I've been under Veratad's "scrutiny" since their inception and have zero problems or complaints. In most circumstances Veratad only needs a person's name and address to provide age verification that meets current legal requirements, however, they do allow vendors to set more stringent approval rules than what the law actually requires...



The problem is most vendors haven't got a clue as to what's really required under the law or who to trust for handling age compliance issues. In their confusion many vendors decided that need-it-or-not the more information they collect the better protected from liability they'd be which holds true unless your customer base proves highly reluctant to submitting unnecessary sensitive personal information (like I am) and ceases doing business with you.

Some vendors have chosen to use verification services that intentionally sensationalize/exaggerate the legal requirements for verifying age in order to justify collecting unnecessary personal information which they store and then share/sell to third parties (direct marketing), a practice that makes $$$ at "both ends". One only has to read each verification company's privacy policy to figure out who's honest and more importantly who's not.

One thing that's obvious is many vendors didn't invest much time, effort or research into preparing for this the easiest of FDA requirements headed their way. Certainly doesn't instill confidence in their ability to pass the more complicated, technically difficult and arduous tasks that lie ahead. Personally, I view this like a crude yardstick to identify which vendors have the business savvy to survive beyond 2018, from where I sit -that list is pretty short-. Of course the FDA may have already set the bar so high ($$$) none could succeed anyway, only time will tell.

Thank you Str8. That should explain it well enough for anybody to understand.

 

[tmcase]

Nicoticket, you can call in an order and they will send it "Sign on receipt". Asked him in this thread.
Age Verifcation: A Primer

Thanks Burnie. I added that comment next to Nicoticket.

 

[Vaping2Live]

Thanks. I couldn't find anything on their site. Added to the list as Unknown.

I ordered yesterday, there was no verification other than a checkbox. That's why I said - regular checkout. Sorry should have been more clear.

 

[tmcase]

Nicoticket, you can call in an order and they will send it "Sign on receipt". Asked him in this thread.
Age Verifcation: A Primer

I read part of that Primer thread and was shocked at how many people are actually sending a selfie with their driver's license. Gawd help those people.

 

[snork]

Veratad has been providing age verification services to online tobacco retailers for well over a decade and is one of the oldest most experienced online age/identity verification services available. Their service provides vendors with legal compliance under current laws and they do this discreetly -without- storing personal information or sharing/selling personal information to third parties. I make NETs and purchase the tobacco they're made with from the same online pipe tobacco & cigar vendors I used back when I "smoked", I've been under Veratad's "scrutiny" since their inception and have zero problems or complaints. In most circumstances Veratad only needs a person's name and address to provide age verification that meets current legal requirements, however, they do allow vendors to set more stringent approval rules than what the law actually requires...



The problem is most vendors haven't got a clue as to what's really required under the law or who to trust for handling age compliance issues. In their confusion many vendors decided that need-it-or-not the more information they collect the better protected from liability they'd be which holds true unless your customer base proves highly reluctant to submitting unnecessary sensitive personal information (like I am) and ceases doing business with you.

Some vendors have chosen to use verification services that intentionally sensationalize/exaggerate the legal requirements for verifying age in order to justify collecting unnecessary personal information which they store and then share/sell to third parties (direct marketing), a practice that makes $$$ at "both ends". One only has to read each verification company's privacy policy to figure out who's honest and more importantly who's not.

One thing that's obvious is many vendors didn't invest much time, effort or research into preparing for this the easiest of FDA requirements headed their way. Certainly doesn't instill confidence in their ability to pass the more complicated, technically difficult and arduous tasks that lie ahead. Personally, I view this like a crude yardstick to identify which vendors have the business savvy to survive beyond 2018, from where I sit -that list is pretty short-. Of course the FDA may have already set the bar so high ($$$) none could succeed anyway, only time will tell.

Excellent, thank you!
Now let's suppose for some vendor, economics is the issue. For example, maybe Bluecheck is cheaper for the vendor to utilize, to the point that it results in savings to the customer. Say with Veratad she'd have to pass along the cost of the service where with Bluecheck she could absorb it. Maybe the most expensive is also the least intrusive, for example you the customer paying an additional $6 shipping for signature verification at your door by USPS (that's my favorite and I'd pay it).
Reason I ask is many of us want everything for nothing, vendors have been put in a rotten position of possibly alienating customers no matter what they do. At what cost do we want our privacy?

 

[Koolkiz]

I will buy from a vendor who is non invasive with the verification process. I do put a value on my identity and my DL/SSN. This isn't about wanting something for free. This is about how some folks want to purchase products using the least invasive verification system and protecting their identity as well.



Latest Viper Vape email copy/paste
P.S. I won't be using this vendor either.


Dear Valued Customers,

As many of you already know, the FDA Regulations went into effect on August 8th. One of those regulations is Age Verification for online orders. We are writing you today to ask for your help in this matter.

The automatic age verification system we are using to comply charges us a fee for every customer it scans. These fees are already hurting our company. We are hoping that you will work with us so we can manually verify you. The process is very simple and since you are helping us we will return the favor for you by sending you a 25% off coupon code once you are verified.

In order for us to manually verify your age we will need you to email us the following:

1. Picture of yourself holding your ID (a selfie holding the card next to your face is preferable)

2. A close up picture of your ID

Please email the 2 requested pictures to verify@viper-vape.com. Once we see the pictures and verify that you meet the age requirements of your State we will add you to the ‘Verified’ customer group in our system and let you know that you are now approved. We only need to do this 1 time, after that you will be able to order without any issues.

We cannot stress enough how sorry we are for asking you to jump through hoops, but please understand that all Vape shops now require this type of Age Verification.

We appreciate your patience while we make the necessary changes that will allow us to keep providing vape supplies to all of our loyal customers.

Your friends at Viper Vape

 

[tmcase]

Very, very, very unexceptable.

 

[tmcase]

I will buy from a vendor who is non invasive with the verification process. I do put a value on my identity and my DL/SSN. This isn't about wanting something for free. This is about how some folks want to purchase products using the least invasive verification system and protecting their identity as well.



Latest Viper Vape email copy/paste
P.S. I won't be using this vendor either.


Dear Valued Customers,

As many of you already know, the FDA Regulations went into effect on August 8th. One of those regulations is Age Verification for online orders. We are writing you today to ask for your help in this matter.

The automatic age verification system we are using to comply charges us a fee for every customer it scans. These fees are already hurting our company. We are hoping that you will work with us so we can manually verify you. The process is very simple and since you are helping us we will return the favor for you by sending you a 25% off coupon code once you are verified.

In order for us to manually verify your age we will need you to email us the following:

1. Picture of yourself holding your ID (a selfie holding the card next to your face is preferable)

2. A close up picture of your ID

Please email the 2 requested pictures to verify@viper-vape.com. Once we see the pictures and verify that you meet the age requirements of your State we will add you to the ‘Verified’ customer group in our system and let you know that you are now approved. We only need to do this 1 time, after that you will be able to order without any issues.

We cannot stress enough how sorry we are for asking you to jump through hoops, but please understand that all Vape shops now require this type of Age Verification.

We appreciate your patience while we make the necessary changes that will allow us to keep providing vape supplies to all of our loyal customers.

Your friends at Viper Vape

If I had received that email, I would have replied back saying their manual AV is going to hurt their business more than passing the extra costs to the buyers or switching to Veratad.

 

[Bea-FL]

can someone please give me the link for the doc with the vendors. There are soo many pages in this thread I cant find it. I saved it in my ipad which has since died. Thanks.

 

[Koolkiz]

can someone please give me the link for the doc with the vendors. There are soo many pages in this thread I cant find it. I saved it in my ipad which has since died. Thanks.

You can find it in the first post.

 

[Mrmik]

ordered from ecig express with no problem or any age verification.

 

[Bea-FL]

You can find it in the first post.

Duh!!! The only page I didn't check cause I kept thinking it was in a later post. Thanks

 

[tmcase]

can someone please give me the link for the doc with the vendors. There are soo many pages in this thread I cant find it. I saved it in my ipad which has since died. Thanks.

Go to the OP on page 1.

Edit: Nevermind. Too late.

 

[tmcase]

A little birdie told me that it is ok for US Only vendors to PM me their info since they can't post outside their forum.

I think this would be good getting the info straight from the vendors then I can ask them all kinds of questions.

Bumping for the vendors. The list is in the OP. (first post)

 

[Bea-FL]

@tm thanks anyway. BTW I'm shopping for a little more nic for the just-in-case pile and I placed a dummy order at Wizard labs so I could see what their shipping was. I was just short of hitting the "place order" button and nothing was asked of me.

 

[HazyShades]

I will buy from a vendor who is non invasive with the verification process. I do put a value on my identity and my DL/SSN. This isn't about wanting something for free. This is about how some folks want to purchase products using the least invasive verification system and protecting their identity as well.



Latest Viper Vape email copy/paste
P.S. I won't be using this vendor either.


Dear Valued Customers,

As many of you already know, the FDA Regulations went into effect on August 8th. One of those regulations is Age Verification for online orders. We are writing you today to ask for your help in this matter.

The automatic age verification system we are using to comply charges us a fee for every customer it scans. These fees are already hurting our company. We are hoping that you will work with us so we can manually verify you. The process is very simple and since you are helping us we will return the favor for you by sending you a 25% off coupon code once you are verified.

In order for us to manually verify your age we will need you to email us the following:

1. Picture of yourself holding your ID (a selfie holding the card next to your face is preferable)

2. A close up picture of your ID

Please email the 2 requested pictures to verify@viper-vape.com. Once we see the pictures and verify that you meet the age requirements of your State we will add you to the ‘Verified’ customer group in our system and let you know that you are now approved. We only need to do this 1 time, after that you will be able to order without any issues.

We cannot stress enough how sorry we are for asking you to jump through hoops, but please understand that all Vape shops now require this type of Age Verification.

We appreciate your patience while we make the necessary changes that will allow us to keep providing vape supplies to all of our loyal customers.

Your friends at Viper Vape

Just got this same email, here to post it but you've already done so.
Shame 'cause I bought some 510 adapters for Atlantis v2 tanks from Viper a couple of weeks ago and planned to buy more stuff from them. But nobody gets a pic of me and my ID.

 

[LMS62]

I placed an order with Verde Valley Vapes over the weekend, and the checkout was the same as always. No muss, no fuss.

 

[HazyShades]

Mount Baker Vapor Bluecheck Age Verification Tutorial
BlueCheck Age Verification [VIDEO TUTORIAL] - Mt Baker Vapor