@tm thanks anyway.BTW I'm shopping for a little more nic for the just-in-case pile and I placed a dummy order at Wizard labs so I could see what their shipping was. I was just short of hitting the "place order" button and nothing was asked of me.
As of right now, I don't think nic is required to do AV. I could be wrong but I'll call John tomorrow and see what he has to say. Wizard Labs is where I get my nic.