Mech Mod Blows up in Teen's Face !

[Stinkytofus]

No, regs are coming to block small business and allow tobacco companies to be the only players.
Lawmakers never needed " ammo".
They have authority, to regulate industry.
The propaganda is to mislead the public into thinking this is about exploding e Cigs and safety.
The same people regulating and taxing vaping, give you regulated taxed tobacco and say they care about health.

when they go propose these laws, these will come up, "see, not safe, need to regulate", these lawmakers WONT care if its a regulated or unregulated and wont care what you got to say, it will just make the regulations even easier to pass is my point, these news aren't helping us AT ALL, the ignorance of retailers and online shops is the cause of this, for example, hoverboards are banned from being imported to USA without UL certifications now, why? because the batteries blow up and set some houses on fire and did a lot of damage, now ECIGS are doing lifelong damages to peoples faces, wait till they propose stuff LIMITING what batteries that can be sold for ecigs or outright banning any ecigs that uses certain batteries in the future, happened to something so popular like the hoverboards, doesn't mean it wont happen to ecigs

worst case scenario: both unregulated and regulated gets some harsh new laws
okay scenario: only unregulated gets the boot and possible ban

 

[WharfRat1976]

No, regs are coming to block small business and allow tobacco companies to be the only players.
Lawmakers never needed " ammo".
They have authority, to regulate industry.
The propaganda is to mislead the public into thinking this is about exploding e Cigs and safety.
The same people regulating and taxing vaping, give you regulated taxed tobacco and say they care about health.

And the same lobbyists that lobby for Big Backy also lobby for the Vape Industry...WAIT WHUUUUT?

 

[crxess]

Virginia who? university? I suspect CASAA has already done far more without the need to participate as well as other advocy groups which include submission of petitions to the White House! Or did you know that? 2058 comes to mind as one bill many have already spoken out about.

In different locals you are going to find various grass roots type as well as the better organized groups including one really important voice being heard by M.O.V.E.org a compiliation of Cardiovascular specialists from various countries advocating ecigs and vaping. Those are the people who actually do look inside to see what goes on!

Meanwhile back on Topic of Individual Participation - EVERY VOICE Matters.

Did I know.........
I investigate every Petition I can find an participate in the Logical ones. I am a CASAA Member and Provide my Opinions on whatever matters they Request.

The solution is Not what I do or what The Them's and They's do but What WE do, or worse, Assume someone Else will do.

We should be at the Heart of any study involving Vaping, whether Directly about the Act/Equipment or about Public opinion. We are the Public and should Express OUR Opinions.

We should take Every Opportunity to Enhance a Positive Study, or Derail a Negative study.

 

[KentA]

okay scenario: only unregulated gets the boot and possible ban

That's not okay around here.

 

[Rabbit Slayer]

That is why i hate mech mods.

They don't have the safety features of regulated devices.

Since the only people that should own one are experienced vapers and not total noobs, it does have safety, the safety of the person that is using it to know what the heck he/she is doing

He ignored the warnings and got hurt...It is sad but not news worthy

 

[7sixtwo]

That's not okay around here.

Agreed. That's not "ok", either.. and I don't even have any interest in mech mods.

 

[Bunnykiller]

80,000 people get their hands/feet mangled by lawn mowers every year ( on avg.) why isnt there restrictions on lawn mowers???

 

[7sixtwo]

80,000 people get their hands/feet mangled by lawn mowers every year ( on avg.) why isnt there restrictions on lawn mowers???

Heh, yeah. If the automobile were invented today, it'd never be allowed to come to market as is.

 

[Vaslovik]

Not really considering the rest this has happened to were all adults. It's easy to sit here and play judge/jury without any facts to counter, but, without knowing all the facts it's all just speculation, personal bias and prejudice.

Disagree. Teen does indeed say it all.

 

[Vaslovik]

Not really considering the rest this has happened to were all adults.

ALL ADULTS? Prove it. Cite your sources. I want to see every case.

 

[crxess]

ALL ADULTS? Prove it. Cite your sources. I want to see every case.

Biting my tongue

 

[WharfRat1976]

80,000 people get their hands/feet mangled by lawn mowers every year ( on avg.) why isnt there restrictions on lawn mowers???

80,000? Doubt that number.

There is no money in this so it's not analogous. Good chime in though.

 

[crxess]

80,000? Doubt that number.

There is no money in this so it's not analogous. Good chime in though.

There are approximately 180,000 lawnmower accidents per year, and our engineering experts have investigated a number of accidents that led to litigation.

Lawnmower safety and accident investigation

There is no money in this so it's not analogous <<<< and there was no money in this, until someone decided there was potential for winfall profits.

 

[Bad Ninja]

when they go propose these laws, these will come up, "see, not safe, need to regulate", these lawmakers WONT care if its a regulated or unregulated and wont care what you got to say, it will just make the regulations even easier to pass is my point, these news aren't helping us AT ALL, the ignorance of retailers and online shops is the cause of this, for example, hoverboards are banned from being imported to USA without UL certifications now, why? because the batteries blow up and set some houses on fire and did a lot of damage, now ECIGS are doing lifelong damages to peoples faces, wait till they propose stuff LIMITING what batteries that can be sold for ecigs or outright banning any ecigs that uses certain batteries in the future, happened to something so popular like the hoverboards, doesn't mean it wont happen to ecigs

worst case scenario: both unregulated and regulated gets some harsh new laws
okay scenario: only unregulated gets the boot and possible ban

Wrong.
They will allow prefilled cartridges and CIG alike devices sold by Big Tobacco.
They will ban devices not made and sold by BT.

Long story short, due to settlement agreements from the BT lawsuits, states get a share of BT's profit, and taxes, which they have already "spent".
Vaping cuts into profits and payments, which states cannot allow.

Regs were coming regardless.
Don't buy into propaganda .

 

[7sixtwo]

Wrong.
They will allow prefilled cartridges and CIG alike devices sold by Big Tobacco.
They will ban devices not made and sold by BT...

Which all suck, and I think that's intentional; to make vaping less enjoyable and keep more people hooked on their coffin nails.

 

[Night Hawk]

Not really considering the rest this has happened to were all adults. It's easy to sit here and play judge/jury without any facts to counter, but, without knowing all the facts it's all just speculation, personal bias and prejudice.

Couldn't agree more! And this is what I was mentioning already about the "lack of" detailed information before simply assuming the validity of the article. Anyone can made up to look like a disaster victim for a nice photo shoot! What the kid was supposedly and note supposedly doing to even cause a battery to explode simply isn't seeing any credible source of! And don't forget the report isn't based location wise in any "nanny state" but not even in the US!

 

[Bad Ninja]

Which all suck, and I think that's intentional; to make vaping less enjoyable and keep more people hooked on their coffin nails.

Of course it is. Either way the same people get the profits.
That's my point.
The media propaganda is a distraction
Look how many people fall for it and waste energy worrying about perception, while the real players write the rules in their favor.

 

[Night Hawk]

Of course it is. Either way the same people get the profits.
That's my point.
The media propaganda is a distraction
Look how many people fall for it and waste energy worrying about perception, while the real players write the rules in their favor.

Haven't you ever heard the expression "Money is the Root of All Evil"?! For Big business the bottom line is simply "Cash Cows" while for the political structures "Tax Revenues"!

Someone made the point to me a couple of years ago in one discussion that "there are no friendlies out there!" until M.O.V.E.org suddenly came into focus where now vaping saw Medical Pros at work for the first time actually promoting vaping over Big T! and Big Pharma as well! That obviously came as a shock to many at first sight!

 

[Stinkytofus]

Wrong.
They will allow prefilled cartridges and CIG alike devices sold by Big Tobacco.
They will ban devices not made and sold by BT.

Long story short, due to settlement agreements from the BT lawsuits, states get a share of BT's profit, and taxes, which they have already "spent".
Vaping cuts into profits and payments, which states cannot allow.

Regs were coming regardless.
Don't buy into propaganda .

If thats the case it wouldve been banned long ago, but that wouldve brought public outcry, with these news, whether they are true or not, they can expedit the process of banning or heavy regulations

 

[EdT586]

Which all suck, and I think that's intentional; to make vaping less enjoyable and keep more people hooked on their coffin nails.

That is good for governments since they don't have to pay their pensions if they die early.
One of the reasons why the Big 3 ...err Small 3 now were broke in 2008 and asking for taxpayer's bail out was they had employees who retired in 1975 at age 65 who were still alive in 2008 being paid a pension !