Mechs are advanced user items.
They are not for beginners.
Vapers who dont understand ohm's law and use tanks with pre built coil heads shouldn't be using mechs, as they are obviously not an advanced user.
Mech Mod Blows up in Teen's Face !
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Mechs are advanced user items.
They are not for beginners.
Vapers who dont understand ohm's law and use tanks with pre built coil heads shouldn't be using mechs, as they are obviously not an advanced user.
Yet newer tanks with premade coils are now offering RDA inserts as well as other rebuilding options. I ran 1.6ml top single coiled 2.4ohm clearomizers on top of the same mech I also ran Kanger Aerotank Mega tanks on. Resistance controlled vape was the end result. I run a sub ohm on the Guardian 1 mini 18350 powered mod there seeing a 0.5ohm coil in use. Never had a problem simply slapping a tank onto one! A SMOK Kick 25w insert mod was what cooked the fire button on the aluminum tube mod however that was supposed to be for just type of single 18650 mech.
The tube mod was to come shortly after getting the first Vamo V2 3-15w regulated APV back when first getting into VV and VW gear. The problem wasn't simply not knowing Ohm's Law already being an Electronic Tech here. The problem was a defective Kick mod!
As for some kid like the one indicated in the report there the lack of "Common Sense" would be an item to consider as far as how the mod was being used as well as how it was being powered?! That brings us right back to the question of possibly trying to hook it up to the 12v DC Cig Lighter plug in the vehicle itself? which would see almost any flashlight battery you can name go off like a large firecracker! You see with these types of reports the full details are not needed since the goal is to create "Worrysome" people in order to generate fear mongering. "oh gee that could blow up on you!" stirs the masses into negative thinking.
The tube mod was to come shortly after getting the first Vamo V2 3-15w regulated APV back when first getting into VV and VW gear. The problem wasn't simply not knowing Ohm's Law already being an Electronic Tech here. The problem was a defective Kick mod!
As for some kid like the one indicated in the report there the lack of "Common Sense" would be an item to consider as far as how the mod was being used as well as how it was being powered?! That brings us right back to the question of possibly trying to hook it up to the 12v DC Cig Lighter plug in the vehicle itself? which would see almost any flashlight battery you can name go off like a large firecracker! You see with these types of reports the full details are not needed since the goal is to create "Worrysome" people in order to generate fear mongering. "oh gee that could blow up on you!" stirs the masses into negative thinking.
no, THESE "news" of people blowing up peoples faces will give lawmakers ammo to say "see, ecigs aren't safe, we need to regulate them, peoples faces are blowing up, this 16 yo is scarred for life, MORE regulations are needed", yes controlling profits and tax money is where all this regulation is about in the end, for what else they need to regulate for? they bored? i dont think so
Formal de Who? didn't you know ecigs was the leading cause of ... ? BS stories mainly! It threatens those profit margins that everyone has only too accustomed to expecting! And the proposal to tax ecigs have been falling through since they can't be fully placed into and regulated as cancer causing tobacco products already are. For law makers ecigs are the Ultimate Catch 22 as far as overturning the well established apple cart!
Correct it is all about the money !
Funny how the tobacco industry also paid the inventor of the e-cig $75 million to buy out his patent citing they are coming out with health conscious products to their cigarettes last year ! ...LoL
The Canadian provincial governments then lump e-cigs as tobacco products with the same taxes which is around 92% per cig !
http://www.economist.com/blogs/schumpeter/2014/03/e-cigarette-patent-wars
My first e-cig was a mech mod with a RTA atty. I bought 3 bottles of commercial made e-liquids and then started making my own ever since.
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I agree, it adds to the ammo if not the reason.
I know I have said this before, but, mech mods came on to the vaping scene long (in vape years) before the first person blew their face off with one. Vapers used mechs for years with only the rare innocent, definitely nothing to this level, and, the way I see it some very basic things have changed between then and now largely contributing to this problem...
lack of a kick or safe stop/vape safe fuse,
fake hybrids,
ultra low ohms,
use by an uneducated plug and play mentality segment of the population primarily seeking large clouds over safety.
(IMHO) these changes have not been for the better, rather, they have been a determent to vaping as a whole. I understand my view of vaping is becoming a less and less popular one..... just as a way for smokers to stop smoking that I honestly believed one day would have become mainstream acceptable as a healthier alternative..... instead it took a sharp turn into an alternative anything but that now.
You seem to forget the technologies as far as tanks go has also seen major changes in the last few years! You say 10yrs. when just what was available? Not much! And it isn't even mech mods at fault or the newer tanks but usually will prove to be a combination of things that would lead to any mishaps! The SMOK Kick to add VW to a mech was a flop right there resulting in cooking the fire button by way of that shorting out somehow. It was inserted correctly but simply drew too much in that instant for seeing the contacts fused together.
For a battery to explode on the other hand while contacts would cook and open that would seem to be something being force fed into the battery like 12v! That would super heat a battery rated for only 3.7v! But it's that "Frightful Look" of the graphic details of seeing a kid injured for life? or what someone would like you to believe a April Fool's prank article? Some of those floated lately like China banning all ecigs?! Right! Where do most come from presently? Daaaaa... "Caught ya lookin!" hook, line, and sinker!
That was the latest gimic from a fake NY Times supposed article with a totally non existant web address to go with it being passed around! Likewise I have to look at this report as lacking in credibility to a greater extent as it would seem to do more serving some misinformation campaign. And the make up effects these days can make you believe almost anything! Actual injuries or a good make up job?
For a battery to explode on the other hand while contacts would cook and open that would seem to be something being force fed into the battery like 12v! That would super heat a battery rated for only 3.7v! But it's that "Frightful Look" of the graphic details of seeing a kid injured for life? or what someone would like you to believe a April Fool's prank article? Some of those floated lately like China banning all ecigs?! Right! Where do most come from presently? Daaaaa... "Caught ya lookin!" hook, line, and sinker!
That was the latest gimic from a fake NY Times supposed article with a totally non existant web address to go with it being passed around! Likewise I have to look at this report as lacking in credibility to a greater extent as it would seem to do more serving some misinformation campaign. And the make up effects these days can make you believe almost anything! Actual injuries or a good make up job?
No, regs are coming to block small business and allow tobacco companies to be the only players.
Lawmakers never needed " ammo".
They have authority, to regulate industry.
The propaganda is to mislead the public into thinking this is about exploding e Cigs and safety.
The same people regulating and taxing vaping, give you regulated taxed tobacco and say they care about health.
I think you are going to find that even with Hollywood celebrities and as learned of today the June 30th release date for a new documentary on vaping and the lies and influences by Big Pharma more so then the Big Ts now investing in their own brands that the light of day as far as how much manipulation has been seen over the years by the drug companies will be what has the largest impact on public opinion during an election year no less!
This new form of exposure is going to end up putting a large damper on the opposition trying to persuade law makers to regulate against vaping when the public learns a great number of things! Many already lack any trust in the Pharmaceutical industry as a whole simply being a hugh profit machine. But as one community in the state of Massachusettes found out back in 2013 trying to stamp out all but Big T brand ecigs isn't going to work universally in your life time! Westminster's tobacco ban hearing too rowdy, ends early
This new form of exposure is going to end up putting a large damper on the opposition trying to persuade law makers to regulate against vaping when the public learns a great number of things! Many already lack any trust in the Pharmaceutical industry as a whole simply being a hugh profit machine. But as one community in the state of Massachusettes found out back in 2013 trying to stamp out all but Big T brand ecigs isn't going to work universally in your life time! Westminster's tobacco ban hearing too rowdy, ends early
Meanwhile, there is a Positive aspect Study, by the Va. Commonwealth University....... and practically NO ECF Members are participating.
Voices were made to be heard.
Voices were made to be heard.
Why do you say that crxess? How do you know practically no ecf members are participating. I would guess we'd be their biggest pool of positive participants.
Thanks for the reminder. I forgot to join.Meanwhile, there is a Positive aspect Study, by the Va. Commonwealth University....... and practically NO ECF Members are participating.
Voices were made to be heard.
Virginia who? university? I suspect CASAA has already done far more without the need to participate as well as other advocy groups which include submission of petitions to the White House! Or did you know that? 2058 comes to mind as one bill many have already spoken out about.
In different locals you are going to find various grass roots type as well as the better organized groups including one really important voice being heard by M.O.V.E.org a compiliation of Cardiovascular specialists from various countries advocating ecigs and vaping. Those are the people who actually do look inside to see what goes on!
In different locals you are going to find various grass roots type as well as the better organized groups including one really important voice being heard by M.O.V.E.org a compiliation of Cardiovascular specialists from various countries advocating ecigs and vaping. Those are the people who actually do look inside to see what goes on!
Agreed! This sums up most of the problems with explosions. When I started building coils way, way way back in the ancient days of 2013 (I know, it seems like fire had just been invented) people were focused on 1.2 to 2.5 ohm oils. Hybrids were actually that, hybrids (built to proper specs), and not mods trying to do without a 510 connection.
You won't find any mention of RDA or rebuilding atomizers in the report there at all. Only Mech Mod Explodes! Kid injured for Life tossed into the mix of Negative Sensationalism this was intended to be! I have to put this in the category next to the bogus report about the Chinese government banning all ecigs intended for what is a total fabrication spread around by several sources. Operation "Puff Not" Bans E-Cig Exports - Spinfuel The Art of Vaping
It's both.
Yes, the "bought and paid for" state is where we stand.
It's probably where EVERY government has stood since the days of wearing animal skins.
Nothing new there.
What's new is those that vote for Nanny State politicians.
What they are doing is handing even more power over to those that seek it.
And all of this, just to protect the children, and the rest of us from ourselves.
Because we all hate Darwin.
My point is, the illusion of "public perception leading to regulations" is just that...an illusion.
The regulations would still come.
The illusion keeps the public busy trying to change perception of vaping.
They should be busy trying to change their politicians.
How would you feel about this statement then?
"public perception inducing a climate more favorable to regulations"
And then of course I'd add in all the stuff about Big Media and propaganda.
And sheep, and ignorance, and George Orwell, and a few tinfoil hat things for good measure.
Can't disagree with that, even it if I wanted to.
But in order to do that, you almost have to change the entire system.
Which I'm all in favor of.
And it starts with term limits.
And the abolishment of the two-party system.
Not really considering the rest this has happened to were all adults. It's easy to sit here and play judge/jury without any facts to counter, but, without knowing all the facts it's all just speculation, personal bias and prejudice.
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