MVP Owners Group-into the next generation

[Night Hawk]

The MVP 2.0 can't subohm as the 20 watt just bumped the upper power limit it shouldn't be able to either.

It won't either since the 20W was merely the updated form of the 2.0 chipset there. The first place to look to see what they look like always seems to be the wholesale sites naturally with dhgate showing "Estimated between Fri Jan 30 and Tue Feb 3" as the estimated release. Wholesale Innokin Itaste Mvp 3 0 - Buy Innokin Itaste Mvp V3.0 Innokin Itaste Mvp 3 0 in Stock from Vapllife, $25.14 | DHgate.com

The innokin product page with all of the details is found at iTaste MVP V3.0

Get your pens and pencils out!

The Primary Features of The iTaste MVP3.0

Battery Level Indicator:

The iTaste MVP3.0 e cgiarette battery has a tri-color LED on the top.

Green = Almost fully Charged. When the iTaste MVP3.0 is fully recharged the top LED light will power off.

Yellow = Half Power.

Red = Low Power. Charge the MVP3.0.

Variable Voltage:
Voltage can be adjusted from 3.0 – 9.0 volts in .1 volt increments.

Variable Wattage:
Wattage can be adjusted from 6.0 – 30.0 Watts in .5 watts increments.

Low Voltage Warning:
The Red LED and Battery bar will continue blinking when the battery capacity is lower than 3.3V and the iTaste MVP3.0 Advanced Personal Vaporizer will automatically power off.

Short Circuit/Atomizer Protection:
Short Circuit/Atomizer Protection protects the iTaste MVP3.0 Advanced Personal Vaporizer against shorted atomizers and will stop the unit from functioning in unsafe conditions.

The iTaste MVP3.0 features automatic real-time atomizer Ohms detection. If the resistance of the atomizer is lower than 0.4 the Ohms bar will blink and the MVP3 will not power on.

‘Vape while charging’ Technology

The iTaste MVP3.0 is recharged with a Micro USB cable. When plugged into a power source the iTaste MVP3.0 can also be vaped and charged at the same time with Innokin Technology’s ‘Vape while you charge’ pass-through technology.

Remembers last Voltage or Wattage setting:
When the iTaste MVP3.0 is turned off it will remember the current voltage or wattage setting and it will retain the setting when the iTaste MVP3.0 is powered on.

Portable power source for electronic products:
To charge your portable electronic device with the iTaste MVP3.0 plug the built-in Micro USB cable into the electronic device and power on the MVP3.0. The included iTaste MVP3.0 starter kit charging cable can also be used. Plug the larger USB port into the MVP3.0 and the Micro-USB into the electronic device and power on the iTaste MVP3.0. You may only charge one electronic device at a time. Do not attempt to charge more than one device at the same time or you may damage the device.

High compatibility 510 connector:
The iTaste MVP3.0 510 threading is compatible all standard 510 clearomizers & atomizers including the iClear16, iClear16B, iClear16D, iClear30, iClear30B, iClear30S and the Gladius-M.

Someone here mentioned an email exchange indicating the newer models were RMS DC.

 

[JimmyDB]

It won't either since the 20W was merely the updated form of the 2.0 chipset there. The first place to look to see what they look like always seems to be the wholesale sites naturally with dhgate showing "Estimated between Fri Jan 30 and Tue Feb 3" as the estimated release. Wholesale Innokin Itaste Mvp 3 0 - Buy Innokin Itaste Mvp V3.0 Innokin Itaste Mvp 3 0 in Stock from Vapllife, $25.14 | DHgate.com

The Innokin product page with all of the details is found at iTaste MVP V3.0

Get your pens and pencils out!

Someone here mentioned an email exchange indicating the newer models were RMS DC.

That wholesale place (DHgate) is actually calling the MVP20W an MVP3. All images are for the 20W along with specifications and the pricing is right in line with that. Maybe you just copied the wrong link?

As far as that last line about RMS... if you meant that to be in there, then yeah... Innokin says as much right on their primary product page.

The iTaste MVP3.0 uses vRMS DC current and is very accurate with a power deviation of 0.1 Watt. The full 30Watts is precisely maintained between resistances of 0.4 to 2.5 ohms. There is no wasted power and exact accuracy means you are always vaping the power level that you choose. vRMS provides superior precision in delivering the exact wattage Ohm’s Law requires and stable power means better vapor.

 

[Night Hawk]

I wouldn't be surprised if dhgate had their page wrong there. That was only a reference other then Alibaba I was using for a quick look at something before it comes to the regular vendors. Innokin's page doesn't have any mention about RMS I expect you wouldn't see anyways since tech information would be in engineer's specifications not product page info.

For most hey simply want the basics and often I hear from various people they don't want to hear the "techno babble" but know if something will work for them or not. For the tech savay on the other hand they want all of the little details, formulas, etc. As far as the exchange someone mentioned earlier they had with someone at Innokin that was the find there however. That should put some to ease.

Now lately I found with one of the iSticks that are left at 11w with the resistance showing 2.3ohm on what is supposed to be 2ohm coils when going to turn it up from 11w to 13w the one used most often while keeping one spare won't go past 12w and then simply backs down to 11.4 or 11.7w? I have to let it autoscroll all the way down to 4.7w and then I can get upto 13w being an annoyance. I never did see any of that going up from 7w to 11w on the 2.0 and not any of that on the new 20W so far!

Those however were only bought as pocket stuffers and not for any main mods. I keep a collection of things here for the time being and find that helps when getting into some stubborn ejuice! One won't work on this while another won't work on something else.

 

[JimmyDB]

I wouldn't be surprised if dhgate had their page wrong there. That was only a reference other then Alibaba I was using for a quick look at something before it comes to the regular vendors. Innokin's page doesn't have any mention about RMS I expect you wouldn't see anyways since tech information would be in engineer's specifications not product page info.

For most hey simply want the basics and often I hear from various people they don't want to hear the "techno babble" but know if something will work for them or not. For the tech savay on the other hand they want all of the little details, formulas, etc. As far as the exchange someone mentioned earlier they had with someone at Innokin that was the find there however. That should put some to ease.

"techno babble"... that's funny.

As far as "Innokin's page doesn't have any mention about RMS"... I just linked to them talking about it on the MVP3 page in my last post in this thread... it's right there [with the quote link] direct from Innokin. Well, not just as in, just now via edit, but just as in earlier

 

[Night Hawk]

That wasn't in the portion I had quoted since it was already cleared up earlier in the thread. The 3.0 will also have something else not generally seen with any mods being a retractable usb charging cord that comes out from the bottom. Innokin will have almost a first being seen there!

 

[Eric Auer]

Still somewhat amused by some comments on the MVP20W.

"Newbie Device"

"Too heavy"

"Too large"

To me, because it really does work so well, I dont get it.

Honestly it is a very well made all around good device that will/should serve people well.

Eric

 

[Vapey_McVape]

Here is a link for the mvp 3 on dhgate.
Wholesale E cig innokin new itaste mvp 3.0 variable voltage, Free shipping, $54.14/Piece | DHgate Mobile
pricy!!

 

[VapieDan]

Still somewhat amused by some comments on the MVP20W.

"Newbie Device"

"Too heavy"

"Too large"

To me, because it really does work so well, I dont get it.

Honestly it is a very well made all around good device that will/should serve people well.

Eric

Eric you have touched on an interesting aspect of vaping and that is the fragmentation of it's users into specific groups. I think you will find this video will help define a certain segment of the vaping community which I can safely say would represent non MVP enthusiasts or even MVP detractors.

. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hCfHSH_v4sw#t=57

 

[Capt.shay]

Here is a link for the mvp 3 on dhgate.
Wholesale E cig innokin new itaste mvp 3.0 variable voltage, Free shipping, $54.14/Piece | DHgate Mobile
pricy!!

They release the 1000mah 15w VV4 and charge $49.00 and release the MVP 30w for $54 ?

BTW has any one seen a stated capacity for the 30W ? Doesn't say on innokins page. I find that rather odd?

 

[Capt.shay]

Whoooops....

 

[pufZeppelin]

They release the 1000mah 15w VV4 and charge $49.00 and release the MVP 30w for $54 ?

BTW has any one seen a stated capacity for the 30W ? Doesn't say on innokins page. I find that rather odd?

yep, I don’t get it – VV4 15W but .8Ω // 20W 1.0Ω
then the price is out of line; is it like some vendors sell cheap devices
but make up for it with say, high priced coils (Innokin the same?)
I myself am done with the VV batteries; low mah & high price
turns me off, from what I think/thought once was a nice product…
- - -
guess you’re talkin about battery mah (capacity)
and also I see that they do not state that on Innokins page ???
might be one of the things they are working on to make bigger
for competitive reasons? (4000, 4200, 4800mah)
I do remember at initial release, where they were claiming an increase
to 3800mah (over the 2.0) wonder if that will hold up ? ?
don’t really care about the attached usb cord, rather see a better price,
more battery, a flashlight, or clock…

 

[CountBoredom]

don’t really care about the attached usb cord, rather see a better price,
more battery, a flashlight, or clock…

I know Phil Busardo mentioned the need for the usb cord (in case you didn't have one lying around), but I wonder what percentage of MVP owners ever used the charging feature. I've read posts by some who have--so there are obviously some--however, it seems to me that most vapers would prefer the mah for their vape rather than their phones. Cut the cord and use the space for extra battery life, I say.

 

[JimmyDB]

I know Phil Busardo mentioned the need for the usb cord (in case you didn't have one lying around), but I wonder what percentage of MVP owners ever used the charging feature. I've read posts by some who have--so there are obviously some--however, it seems to me that most vapers would prefer the mah for their vape rather than their phones. Cut the cord and use the space for extra battery life, I say.

yeah... I had thought the charging cable was to charge the MVP versus to be used for charging other items. I don't see why they needed to include a cable at all though. I can say that if the MVP2 didn't offer USB charging of other devices... I probably never would have bought it, that was a deciding factor for me. I have bought 6 MVP's now. Perhaps it's one of those things where the space was going to be unused so they found a good use for it.

 

[Vapey_McVape]

They release the 1000mah 15w VV4 and charge $49.00 and release the MVP 30w for $54 ?

BTW has any one seen a stated capacity for the 30W ? Doesn't say on innokins page. I find that rather odd?

This def. won't start off at 54 dollars a piece retail. That price is just from a wholesaler, in order to get the 54.14 price you need to order 80+

Incoming 200 dollar b&m mvps XD

 

[gerrymi]

I didn't see any pictures as proof or such, but after a thread search for 'scope' I saw this.
At least I haven't seen anyone trying to apply AC RMS calcs to DC PWM in a while

You may be cornfused. (After the original 20W iStick...they came out in pretty quick succession with the 10W, 30W and 50W iSticks.)

Your link goes to the 20W discussion...but here we were discussing the 30W-iStick being RMS.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1-z_V674p-5HYa9uzMqj1mq67da8-hnOOh2NNB2-ifgI/edit#gid=0

This def. won't start off at 54 dollars a piece retail. That price is just from a wholesaler, in order to get the 54.14 price you need to order 80+

Well...hope it's not too far off.

You can now pre-order the 50W-iStick (4400mAh) (and smaller with rounded edges) for $45.99 from VapeNW.

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...7976-eleaf-istick-50w-coming-jan-25th-12.html

 

[lucky_x16]

That wasn't in the portion I had quoted since it was already cleared up earlier in the thread. The 3.0 will also have something else not generally seen with any mods being a retractable usb charging cord that comes out from the bottom. Innokin will have almost a first being seen there!

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IMHO they can lose the Retractable USB. That looks like an invitation for a headache.

 

[JimmyDB]

You may be cornfused. (After the original 20W iStick...they came out in pretty quick succession with the 10W, 30W and 50W iSticks.)

Your link goes to the 20W discussion...but here we were discussing the 30W-iStick being RMS.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1-z_V674p-5HYa9uzMqj1mq67da8-hnOOh2NNB2-ifgI/edit#gid=0

Gerrymi, I just ran a search within the thread you linked to as shown below and linked an interesting post. The same person showed images from their scope, but that was in a different thread... and may or may not have been the 30W, you would need to take a look

I'm still waiting for mine to arrive. But multiple "early adopters" (some even with oscilloscope tracings) of the 30Watt-iStick report that MEAN has, indeed, been replaced by RMS.

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/variable-voltage-apv-discussion/601111-eleaf-istick-940.html

 

[Vapey_McVape]

You may be cornfused. (After the original 20W iStick...they came out in pretty quick succession with the 10W, 30W and 50W iSticks.)

Your link goes to the 20W discussion...but here we were discussing the 30W-iStick being RMS.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1-z_V674p-5HYa9uzMqj1mq67da8-hnOOh2NNB2-ifgI/edit#gid=0



Well...hope it's not too far off.

You can now pre-order the 50W-iStick (4400mAh) (and smaller with rounded edges) for $45.99 from VapeNW.

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...7976-eleaf-istick-50w-coming-jan-25th-12.html

Totally, otherwise I think its going to really really flop!

 

[JimmyDB]

Totally, otherwise I think its going to really really flop!

Agreed, at this point... it should be pretty cheap based on what it's offering... unless maybe they want people that will buy it just for the name/etc... a following. That could work if they just don't really want to sell as many as they did with the other models.

 

[PaulBHC]

What a difference a year makes.

A year ago when I first came here, there were not many mainstream boxes and I don't recall any but the MVP with a battery pack. I think the top 18650 was 2000 mah so a 2600 mah vv vw ego replacement was perfect for me and less than $40 to boot.

Now we have a deluge of 2000+ mah boxes with watts from 20-50 with prices about the same as watts. Great to have choices but there are too many. By the time we get some history with these the next generation will come along.