Newbie in desperate need of help

[dcav]

Just a heads up. CCV (crystal clear vaping) runs a contest thread every weekend. You can make a post here: http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...71-contest-time-again-c-c-v-every-friday.html and they give away 2 $25.00 gift certificates. Personally I have spent more money on juices than I have on hardware. Yes I have batteries that need charging often, but I have more than one. If you don't like the juices you have, the hardware just goes to waste.

 

[Bworms1980]

Even if you wanted to try driping you only need 1 drip tip for now- you might not like it. drip drip drip puff puff puff puff puff drip drip drip you get it. i wasnt impressed nor did i find any better flavor.

Yes, just read up on what a drip tip does and how to use. I'll skip those for now. Don't think I have the patience yet for that. Maybe I'll try them after I get used to vaping.

Keep us updated!

Good grief - that's my sermon for the day. Sheesh!


PS - Doggone it - I forgot something. Order your clearomizer in the 2.0 to 2.4 ohms range for the eGo Twist. OK, I believe I'm done now......

but then again.....

LOL

Feel free to ramble on, you can never have too many tips/advice. Thank you for your responses. You gave me a lot of great info I was looking for.

You've been incredibly patient and have shown alot of perseverance to wade through all of these mixed opinions that folks are throwing your way!

I have 3 KGOs and one finally died after 7 months of constant daily use. Rather than getting another KGO, I got a Twist to check it out. I was so happy with it that I bought a Twist kit from vapors-choice.

The Twist kit at vapors-choice.com comes with the charger & wall adaptor, a 15 mil bottle of juice, a case and 2 Excalibur tanks for $56. They're called Revives or E1s at other vendors. The Excaliburs are easy to fill, easy to clean and have replacable heads so you don't have to buy a whole new tank.

Add a 5 pack of CE3s for $8.50 and a 5 pack of Boge cartomizers for $5.00. You may want to choose a 2nd bottle of juice while you're at it. With that kit and the extras, you would be off to a really good start. I haven't found any better priced Twist kits so far. Hopefully that's within your price range?

Thank you. I've been trying to hold steady. So much info I've given myself a couple headaches as I pick one product, then change my mind, so i'm off doing a bunch more research on something else. I think I've definitely settled on the Ego C Twist (hopefully I have that right this time and I'm not still referring to a battery by itself lol).

I've received a lot of good info about the Ego C Twist kit at Vapor's Choice and Hulamoon helped point me to a specific product. Don't know what will happen when I wake up tomorrow but for now I'm leaning toward this one and hoping to hit the buy button tomorrow.

Ego C Twist Kit

So this, the 5pack CE3 (which size for the Ego C Twist kit? I see 2.4-2.6 or 2.6-2.8?) that Gloria mentioned and different samples of e-liquid, anything else I need or would I be good to go. Also which Boge cartomizers? I see SR, D, XXL, not sure if they all fit the Ego C or not or if I need a specific pack.

About the flavoring, I'm very confused on what to get. I'm not much of a coffee/tea person, I have a sweet tooth but not sure what flavors I would like. I have never tried smoking anything sweet or fruity before. Any tips/advice? or just blindly pick some and hope I like them?

Oh one more thing, the options to buy, I see:

Nicotine Strengh - 0mg
PG/VG Ratio - 80 pg 20 vg
Eliquid - Artic Chill
Sweetener - 0
Flavor Strength - 5% Extra Low
chill/Menthol adders - none

The only thing I understand from their is the nicotine strength and I'm starting to understand PG/VG ratios but I'm not sure about everything else I need to choose when I order the kit, like the sweetener and flavor strength.

However, I really think this is the one I'll get tomorrow. Although I really wish they weren't out of the pink one. I love pink.

 

[dcav]

I'm sure others will chime in, I'm still a noob myself. The cool thing about a vv batt is that the resistance (ohms) of the carto/clearo/etc isn't as big a deal. SR=standard resistance (LR being low resistance). XXL is physically bigger and holds more juice/ lasts longer before needing refill. Not sure about D, but they do make DC cartos which have two atomizer coils instead of one. I haven't tried those and can't comment on them. I'm pretty sure anything 510 or ego thread will fit.
Flavors: Try a little bit of everything. Some things that sound right up your alley won't be so good and others that you are unsure about turn out great. I'm vaping coconut cream pie now and I'm not much for sweets. I would say get stronger flavor option. At first, because of smoking, I could hardly taste the juice so stronger flavoring would probably help. I've never tried sweetened juice or menthol, but if it sounds good, I say try it.

 

[abumgardner678]

I smoked for 15 years and never could quit. In March I bought the Tornado-T kit and a five pack of e-liquid from totallywicked-eliquid.com and I liked it better than my marlboros! No cravings, haven't had one since. I started with 36mg eliquid and its 80% pg heck of a throat hit. Their whole site is on sale this month too. I was like you and tried all the disposables too. Now I have a lab pretty much where I make my own eliquid. Check the site out, lots of info, you won't regret it if you pick the right kit!

 

[Racehorse]

The extras you will need will depend on what is included in the kit you pick. For example, if you picked this kit (http://www.sweet-vapes.com/shop?page=shop.product_details&flypage=vmj_color_plus.tpl&product_id=1204&category_id=38), it includes 2 Twist batteries, 2 clearomizers, a case and a charger. All you would need to add would be some juice, although I would also suggest buying an atomizer (such as http://www.sweet-vapes.com/shop?page=shop.product_details&flypage=vmj_color_plus.tpl&product_id=299&category_id=20), a 5-pack of standard resistance cartomizers (such as http://www.sweet-vapes.com/shop?page=shop.product_details&flypage=vmj_color_plus.tpl&product_id=978&category_id=21 ) and a couple of drip tips.
Oh, and don't forget to order some juice.

Bworms, I think pappy made it short sweet and simple. This is a good deal on a Twist kit. (So is Gloria's vendor suggestion). It's just an either / or at this point.

(GET the pack of cartomizers, because you will want to know if you like those better than the Vision clearos that come with the kit already. GET the atty + drip tip, because you will be testing juice to see what you like and it will be pain to fill up a whole carto or clearo, only to find after the first few puffs that you dislike the juice. With drip tip and atty, all you're gonna need to taste-test juice is 3-5 drops. ) IMHO

There is no perfect thing, but considering you once tried straws , you'll be so happy and be vaping as soon as the batteries are charged.

By the way, you are fun to "go shopping with".

 

[Racehorse]

I really wish they weren't out of the pink one. I love pink.

You could always buy the batteries ala carte, then buy the other stuff that comes in the kit (leaving out the case) and everything that was in pappy's list.

If you can't decide on vendor, then look at their juices.......decide which one has the juices or sample packs you like best and let that be the deciding factor since you want to get everything from one vendor.

You *could* petition the vendor to see if you can get the pink batts in the kit.......you never know, they might be willing to swap the color out for you, I dunno much about sales stuff..........nothing to lose by asking.

 

[Bworms1980]

As I said, I have a bad short term memory. Saved that info and still managed to forget that it was already given to me and that I saved it lol. TY for pointing me back to that post. It helps a lot when buying the accessories. That kit is great, but it is putting me closer to over $90 and then over $100 with the accessories. Right now I only have about $60 to spend, $70 if I include shipping. So price is a big factor for me until I can save up some more. I'm fun to shop with? Why do u say that?

Bworms, I think pappy made it short sweet and simple. This is a good deal on a Twist kit. (So is Gloria's vendor suggestion). It's just an either / or at this point.

(GET the pack of cartomizers, because you will want to know if you like those better than the Vision clearos that come with the kit already. GET the atty + drip tip, because you will be testing juice to see what you like and it will be pain to fill up a whole carto or clearo, only to find after the first few puffs that you dislike the juice. With drip tip and atty, all you're gonna need to taste-test juice is 3-5 drops. ) IMHO

There is no perfect thing, but considering you once tried straws , you'll be so happy and be vaping as soon as the batteries are charged.

By the way, you are fun to "go shopping with".

 

[JUDGMENT AFFIRMED]

Hi Bworms 1980, because i ''ve been listening to you, i know you only have so much money to spend. Please understand thats why i said go to the Joyetech site and find a authorized dealer. the problem im having , and you learned with your prior purchases is we dont know if product is genuine or counterfiet. Gloria's vendors batteries significantly cheaper....so ?

 

[Vapoor eyes er]

When I first responded to your post I realized the upper limit $$ wise you wished to spend. Twist is a neat PV but does not fall within your budget. As Iffy stated the Riva is a killer deal. 3 friends use it and love it. Understand the Riva is true 3.7 volts and is identical to the Kgo. Also leaves lots of $$ for juice. For the time being the Riva would suit all your needs and is a great price.
Good Luck.

As I said, I have a bad short term memory. Saved that info and still managed to forget that it was already given to me and that I saved it lol. TY for pointing me back to that post. It helps a lot when buying the accessories. That kit is great, but it is putting me closer to over $90 and then over $100 with the accessories. Right now I only have about $60 to spend, $70 if I include shipping. So price is a big factor for me until I can save up some more. I'm fun to shop with? Why do u say that?

 

[Racehorse]

When I first responded to your post I realized the upper limit $$ wise you wished to spend. Twist is a neat PV but does not fall within your budget. As Iffy stated the Riva is a killer deal. 3 friends use it and love it. Understand the Riva is true 3.7 volts and is identical to the Kgo. Also leaves lots of $$ for juice. For the time being the Riva would suit all your needs and is a great price.

It is a great price. I wonder if they added the NO WARRANTY to the bottom of the offer due to the sale? Or was it always there?

She will still want to get some clearos to put the liquid in, since it only comes with 5 prefilled cartridges?

Hi Bworms 1980, because i ''ve been listening to you, i know you only have so much money to spend. Please understand thats why i said go to the Joyetech site and find a authorized dealer.

Actually, I did also note the budget.....which is why I orignally approved her E-power selection, and later said VV is simply "nice to have."


By the way, it would be interesting to get thoughts on this:
When a newbie wants an "ego VV or Ego twist", should they *only* be refered to joyetech distributors. Are the waters being muddied by not doing so? If veterans suggest any other ego kit to a newbie, should it be prefaced with "but this is not a genuine joyetech"?

Maybe Gloria and Pappy and Vapoor could weigh in on this.

Me? Coming from a computer background, I've swapped out every imaginable electronic part and cross-pollinate liberally. It's been my experience that if an electronic is going to fail it usually does so right at the beginning. I put a lot more faith in good vendor support.......as long as I know I've got protection there, I'm all set. My Dell laptop keyboard gave up early on....I purchased new one from a china outfit I deal with on Ebay, swapped it out, and it works better than the one that came with. (It may even be the exact same one they sold to Dell for my laptop). When I have a customer who needs their broken computer to function, and can't wait a few weeks til their next paycheck, I tell them they have this option.

This newbie is coming off Nujoys, and is going to be MILES ahead of anything that bad, with any of the systems that were suggested by the members here. :shrugs:

If it's better policy to only suggest genuine joytetech, then it should be left off the table since gotvapes, myvaporstore, cignot, vaporkings, litecigusa, etc. who are all joyetech do not have Twist kits, and buying 2 batts ala carte plus charger, clearos and a few juices puts the OP a tad over budget.

Or is it better to tell a newbie: "well, just keep smoking, wait a month or two until you can *afford* genuine Joyetech.

I dunno, I trust a lot of the vendors here, and I'd have no hangovers purchasing a less expensive kit if I were on a budget

 

[Vapoor eyes er]

Hi Racehorse. An excellent post with great thoughts and questions. eGo Twists are unquestionably a great PV but I believe the starter kit is cost prohibitive. As for the eGo line (T, C, etc) if one looks closely the batts are not very powerful voltage wise BUT Joytech has done a remarkable marketing job. As for being a certified reseller some vendors find it easier and cheaper just to go through a distributor. I know 1 well known US vendor that only orders 20 PVs at a time and he buys through a distributor. I have personally distributed over 80 Kgo kits and have been happy with their choice. I also know others that tried the Kgo and found they needed VV so they either bought a lavatube or a Provari. Myself I owned a Provari but had no use for VV so I gave it to a very dear friend that was in of it. I find it most important to research, research and research even when dealing with ECF vendors. On my iPhone and ECF really making it tuff to type.

 

[Vapoor eyes er]

Also agree re: Riva cartridges+ atty is usually major fail.

 

[Gloria]

If it's better policy to only suggest genuine joytetech, then it should be left off the table since gotvapes, myvaporstore, cignot, vaporkings, litecigusa, etc. who are all joyetech do not have Twist kits, and buying 2 batts ala carte plus charger, clearos and a few juices puts the OP a tad over budget.

Or is it better to tell a newbie: "well, just keep smoking, wait a month or two until you can *afford* genuine Joyetech.

I dunno, I trust a lot of the vendors here, and I'd have no hangovers purchasing a less expensive kit if I were on a budget

The Twists that I got from vapors-choice.com have the Joyetech logo on the bottom, but they may very well be knockoffs. The buttons aren't sticking and they meter out correctly on different settings, so I'm happy with them so far.

I let Marsha know in a PM that she could do well with the Riva kit and some cartos and juice if that fit better within her budget.

The important thing is that she get started and we're all trying to help her get there by sharing what we know about the gear we have experience with. Oops...ended with a proposition. Please forgive my grammar errors and my really bad short term memory (forgetting what her budget was by the time I read through the whole thread).

 

[dcav]

The appealing thing, to me, about vapors-choice is they give you like 5 free samples of juice with your order. Yes, they are listed on joyetech's website as an unauthorized website, but so is MyFreedomSmokes and Cloud9Vaping, and
I wouldn't think twice about ordering from them.

 

[Vapoor eyes er]

I remember last Christmas buying 3 X Kgo knockoff 1100 mah starter kits for $20.00 each from a non ECF listed vendor. Gave them to friends as Christmas gifts. To this day batts still going strong- light Vapers. The reason I bought them was because some highly regarded ECF Vets highly recommended the vendor and the kit.

 

[Bullette the Cowdog]

I agree, but i am so glad i started without asking a ? here. I think its better to go to other parts of this forum and just read. I stopped watching tv years ago because of to many commercials .

Haha. JA
Definition of TV = brain sucker.

 

[JUDGMENT AFFIRMED]

Hi Bworms 1980, I dont care where you buy from. My intent is only to help you increase your odds of a good purchase. You can sit here forever listening to good people. It's true that, " you get what you pay for". Me i wouldnt get the twist but stay with the standard batteries to get more bang for the buck. But my twist is working better now,maybe tight from factory. Though so far , variable voltage is not impressing me that much.

 

[Pappy]

To the OP. You have received a lot of good suggestions in this thread. Riva, Twist, E-Power, KGO are ALL good units with their own pluses and minuses. Here are the important things:

(1) NONE of these is a waste of money. One may have an advantage over another on some things (size, ease of use, etc.), but may have disadvantages in other areas (battery life, cost, etc.). None of them is perfect, and none has an advantage over the others in every area.

(2) NONE of these is likely to be your last PV. WHATEVER you buy now will likely become a backup unit within a few months. If you find that you like vaping, you will probably do like many of us and go on the quest for the "perfect" PV setup (which probably doesn't exist, although the Provari drones have probably put a "hit" out on me for saying that).

(3) ANY of these will allow you to get started vaping and get off cigarettes. That's the ultimate goal here I think.

(4) ANY of these will allow you to experiment and get experience with vaping so you can figure out what you REALLY like and don't like, rather than just your preconceived notions that are not based on experience.

(5) ANY of these options (other than the Twist kit) will cost you somewhere around the same as a carton of cigarettes. You spend $60 - $70 on a carton of smokes that you KNOW will be useless in a week (because they're all used up), so try not to fret so much over spending the same amount on something that experienced users are telling you will work. Don't get paralysis by analysis. To me, it's like fretting for hours or days over whether to buy a carton of Marlboro Lights vs. Camels. It ain't that big a deal. Just buy SOMETHING and get started.

Best of luck to you on this quest.

 

[JUDGMENT AFFIRMED]

Spent the day going to China and back for my own knowlege. then followed a link back to this forum. So let me paraphrase someone with over 4000 posts that i think might be true to great extent. " there are now many companies in china making these pv's. it just so happens that SLB named its ego knockoff the kgo, some other co. named theirs tgo. other companies knocked off the kgo and didnt change the name.China is a big mess of one company knocking off another company that knocked off another company. Tear apart a Riva and you'll find a Joyetech battery and circuit board. "
Therefore, dont let anything I said slow you down in getting something.

 

[klynnn]

I have the kgo it may be a knock off but its a good one and that's all that matters to me. In China most all brands are made in one factory they just put diff names on them. In fact I think some knock offs are better.