Nicotine less addictive via vaping then smoking?
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You'd have to lock me in a padded room, and don't forget the straight jacket 'cause otherwise the padding won't survive.
I feel nicotine is FAR less addictive (even maybe non addictive) compared to cigarettes / tobacco. I smoked very little, maybe a few a week (sometimes going a month without), but did have the occasional craving. I could have probably just quit and not looked back, but I switched to vaping. I regularly vape 3-9 mg, with a little 18 here and there for a buzz. I don't feel I'm addicted at all, and have regularly gone 12 hours without vaping, and not even thought about it. Do I want to go 12 hours without? No. But I don't feel a need to do it, it's just something I enjoy. It has turned into a very enjoyable hobby to me. Why do I vape? It tastes good, feels good, and I feel it is far healthier than smoking tobacco. I could stop tomorrow if I wanted to, and probably not look back, but I don't want to. I say keep doing what you're doing as long as you enjoy it!
Then why is it that some of us would rip peoples faces off without our nicotine?
I can only tell of my experience and feelings then you make of it what you will ... I smoked (heavy) for over 35 years.... I was totally addicted to tobacco (or whatever is in tobacco) ... I could never seem to quit tobacco and would feel horrid each time I tried to quit plus I was moody and irritable..... One time at work when I was trying to quit smoking (3rd day) I was very irritable and feeling like total crap from withdrawals when someone offered me a pinch of chewing tobacco.......... I do not know what possessed me to give it a try but to my surprise about 5 minutes after putting it into my mouth I felt a very calming and nice effect all over my body. It felt like I had smoked a cig but without actually smoking. My tobacco craving then left me. So after work that day, I stopped by the store and bought my first chewing tobacco. I chewed for over 5 years until discovering vaping...... Of course, both chewing tobacco and smoking tobacco are, from what I understand, loaded with all kinds of nasty things. Some natural and some man made .... However, both of those products are still TOBACCO products that are ground up in their raw form with additives mixed in. One of them you burn and the other you don't. Vaping doesn't even compare as there is no raw tobacco products involved..... The only thing involved is a single component of tobacco (nicotine) and lots of vapers don't even use that.
So what I can conclude as being factual from my own experience is that tobacco products themselves are definitely addictive no matter what form they are in..... So, the next question becomes, just what agent in tobacco is responsible for the addiction, if any? Personally, I believe there is a synergistic phenomenon at work here. I say this for a couple of reasons.
1.) Many people have what is known as "addictive personalities" and can become hooked on just about anything. I am one of those type of people and am also a recovering alcoholic. I no longer drink but I hit it hard for about 20 years and had to go through a couple of treatment centers in order to get educated about addictive personalities.
2.) There are many more things in processed tobacco besides nicotine which could contribute to physical addiction.
3.) I have noticed that when it concerns vaping, that if I go without vaping for a few hours, then I start to feel physical withdrawal symptoms similar to what I did when I smoked. However, these cravings do not seem near as intense as when I used to smoke. This indicates to me that nicotine is involved in the addiction process since it is the only substance related to tobacco that I am currently ingesting via vaping. It also suggests that since my cravings are far lower than when I smoked that something else is at play in tobacco products that makes the nicotine cravings worse.
Suppose I vaped with nicotine and never developed any type of a craving while going without it for an extended period of time, then I could 100% state that nicotine is not physically addicting.......... Yes, I know I have read the studies with the non-smokers that indicate that nicotine is not addictive. As for myself though (any only myself) I am not convinced with those findings. It may be that nicotine when mixed with other things such as flavoring, PG, and VG that it takes on addictive properties, who knows. ( I certainly don't) .... But what I do know is what I physically feel when nicotine is absorbed into my body. I can feel when the fix gets into my body and does it's magic thing.
So, without trying to confuse anyone who reads this, I am NOT saying that nicotine is the only addictive substance in tobacco. I am however, saying that for myself, nicotine does indeed seem to be physically addictive. I am also quite aware that I have a very addictive personality and this adds to the equation. This is why I think tobacco addiction is a multi faceted phenomenon.
Some would argue that since I have an addictive personality, that when I go without vaping for many hours and start to get cravings that it is my mind doing it to me because nicotine is not addictive. I would disagree with that concept. As an example: Once when I used to drink lots of beer I thought I would try some, non-alcoholic, fake beer (neer beer) as I am one of those people that like the taste of beer. So, I drank a couple of cans of neer beer and it did indeed taste like real beer, burps and all. But there was one thing missing from that experience ... that soothing and relaxing feeling that comes from alcohol........same thing with vaping.....if there wasn't something inside of my e juice that provided my body with it's fix then I wouldn't feel it. The only chemical compound I can attribute it to would be nicotine, or a combination of the nic and other simple e juice ingredients.
On the other hand, if it is nicotine (which I assume) to be responsible for providing my fix, then it is not near as addicting as what it was inside of tobacco products.
So what I can conclude as being factual from my own experience is that tobacco products themselves are definitely addictive no matter what form they are in..... So, the next question becomes, just what agent in tobacco is responsible for the addiction, if any? Personally, I believe there is a synergistic phenomenon at work here. I say this for a couple of reasons.
1.) Many people have what is known as "addictive personalities" and can become hooked on just about anything. I am one of those type of people and am also a recovering alcoholic. I no longer drink but I hit it hard for about 20 years and had to go through a couple of treatment centers in order to get educated about addictive personalities.
2.) There are many more things in processed tobacco besides nicotine which could contribute to physical addiction.
3.) I have noticed that when it concerns vaping, that if I go without vaping for a few hours, then I start to feel physical withdrawal symptoms similar to what I did when I smoked. However, these cravings do not seem near as intense as when I used to smoke. This indicates to me that nicotine is involved in the addiction process since it is the only substance related to tobacco that I am currently ingesting via vaping. It also suggests that since my cravings are far lower than when I smoked that something else is at play in tobacco products that makes the nicotine cravings worse.
Suppose I vaped with nicotine and never developed any type of a craving while going without it for an extended period of time, then I could 100% state that nicotine is not physically addicting.......... Yes, I know I have read the studies with the non-smokers that indicate that nicotine is not addictive. As for myself though (any only myself) I am not convinced with those findings. It may be that nicotine when mixed with other things such as flavoring, PG, and VG that it takes on addictive properties, who knows. ( I certainly don't) .... But what I do know is what I physically feel when nicotine is absorbed into my body. I can feel when the fix gets into my body and does it's magic thing.
So, without trying to confuse anyone who reads this, I am NOT saying that nicotine is the only addictive substance in tobacco. I am however, saying that for myself, nicotine does indeed seem to be physically addictive. I am also quite aware that I have a very addictive personality and this adds to the equation. This is why I think tobacco addiction is a multi faceted phenomenon.
Some would argue that since I have an addictive personality, that when I go without vaping for many hours and start to get cravings that it is my mind doing it to me because nicotine is not addictive. I would disagree with that concept. As an example: Once when I used to drink lots of beer I thought I would try some, non-alcoholic, fake beer (neer beer) as I am one of those people that like the taste of beer. So, I drank a couple of cans of neer beer and it did indeed taste like real beer, burps and all. But there was one thing missing from that experience ... that soothing and relaxing feeling that comes from alcohol........same thing with vaping.....if there wasn't something inside of my e juice that provided my body with it's fix then I wouldn't feel it. The only chemical compound I can attribute it to would be nicotine, or a combination of the nic and other simple e juice ingredients.
On the other hand, if it is nicotine (which I assume) to be responsible for providing my fix, then it is not near as addicting as what it was inside of tobacco products.
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Cmon now. If you vape nicotine EVERY DAY you're a nicotine addict. Most addicts in the world are in denial. And the whole ''HOBBY BULL....'' makes me laugh. So loud btw! Vaping is a necessity for most. I think Vaping is more addicting then cigarettes, Once you start vaping, you want to buy more and more vape products. to the point where the addiction makes you spend more money then you did when you smoked cigarettes, You start saying stuff like you say, and start denying that its bad for you. Vaping isn't good for you either. Its just better then tobacco. I would not want my child to vape or smoke. period! If your a caring parent. We know this forrum is FULL of people stuck in Vape denial. blah blah blah vaping is not bad for you bull..... If your e juice contains nicotine its going to effect your body Stimulants are not good for you over time.
NICOTINE: HARDER TO KICK...THAN ......
LINK Sorry this link wont work the forrum blocked the word H-E-R-O We know the rest
Nicotine is too powerful to dodge. In my opinion, if you never smoked tobacco and want to Vape stick to ZERO nic!!
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If you read my post above then you would see that I did in fact state, that nicotine is indeed an addictive substance for myself... I know all about nicotine usage as I probably spent more years trying to get away from it than you are old.
let me get this straight.
i am using nicotine in my juice therefore i am addicted.
even though the amount i am using is not harming me or
others around me. i am not bumping off the corner store nor
mugging my neighbors to get another fix. i am trying to maintain
my health such as it is and eat regularly. i haven't missed a day
of work and i am more productive when working. did i mention
no new carpet burns? my lungs have been clear since starting
to vape and my day long hacking is gone. started sleeping through
the night by the 3rd day. mysterious undiagnosable rashes have
disappeared.
i'm telling you folks this is one milk toast addiction i seem to have.
now i am a bad parent to boot. my son not only smokes,me,his
dear old dad is trying to get him on vaping. this is an intolerable
situation.
i really didn't know how bad off i was. thank you for the insight.
regards
mike
Totally agree with this.
My 30 yrs anniversary is next week, I would not have made it this long without my nicotine fix. I just don't know if I would be dead or my wife.
All I'm saying IS: Nicotine Vaping with Nicotine is addicting. Its affordable and isn't going to kill you quikly. But nicotine is bad for your heart and other organs and overtime ''Can'' do damage. Like I said. Im addicted to nicotine and I vape to not smoke tobacco. Tobacco is worse then Vaping IMO. But Yes not to toot your horn but you are addicted to nicotine and yes It is not a vitamin! LOL
I am addicted to vaping, just like I was addicted to smoking. So the addiction is the same for me. Its not so bad being addicted to something, really. It gives something to constantly look forward to.
I kind of wonder sometimes if there is something to what you are saying.
For instance, I use nicotine, but I'm not addicted to it.
And I have never felt anything at all when I take in nicotine.
I personally don't feel that nicotine is nearly as addictive as society has been led to believe.
But it wouldn't surprise me if some people can become addicted to nicotine.
And it wouldn't surprise me at all if some could become more quickly or easily addicted than others.
But all the research shows that never smokers simply do not get addicted to patches.
So it is what it is.
Sorry, I skim through the novels. I have a short attention span. Kudos to you for being able to do that.If you read my post above then you would see that I did in fact state, that nicotine is indeed an addictive substance for myself... I know all about nicotine usage as I probably spent more years trying to get away from it than you are old.
The only way one can justify vaping is to show its better then smoking. It's still harmful, and If my child smokes I would rather him vape, but if he never smoked I wouldn't want him to vape. That about sums up every point I can possibly make on here.
Thanks
A patch is different though. Thats like a slow trickle all day designed to make addictive cravings subside. But inhaling nicotine directly into the lungs is an immediate effect. I don't care if people say vaping it is not as strong as smoking. If you are making big clouds on something like an RDA with sub-ohm coils, you can feel it without delay. And its just a good feeling. Some people, who are not used to it, may get kind of a dizzy buzz from all of that nictotine, but that goes away after a regular pattern.I kind of wonder sometimes if there is something to what you are saying.
For instance, I use nicotine, but I'm not addicted to it.
And I have never felt anything at all when I take in nicotine.
I personally don't feel that nicotine is nearly as addictive as society has been led to believe.
But it wouldn't surprise me if some people can become addicted to nicotine.
And it wouldn't surprise me at all if some could become more quickly or easily addicted than others.
But all the research shows that never smokers simply do not get addicted to patches.
So it is what it is.
ETA: I think that anyone who regularly uses nictotine and says they are not addicted is in denial. If it does nothing for you, why not just vape 0mg then?
Yea guys ... if you read my "long winded" post you would see that I mentioned I am addicted to nicotine.......... I expounded upon it and dissected it because there are many on this forum who think that nicotine is 100% not addictive because of tests that were conducted with non-smokers.......... For myself though, I disagree with that study......... I have spent many years trying to become un-addicted to nicotine and without success......... even vaping I am still addicted to nicotine and desire my bodily fix. I do agree though that my cravings and desires for nicotine are not as strong as they used to be when I used tobacco products.
Yes.
However, when I am feeling stressed out, I have found that some WTA juice helps me.
Using the nicotine alone doesn't do a thing for me though.
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