OK, why all the ProVari hate?

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Leatherneck

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I prefer spreading out my budget to allow for a backup plan.

Kinda why I went the path I did. Researched on the boards. Bought a relatively cheap eGo kit to see if vaping is for me. Stepped up a bit to eVic. Loved it until it met it's untimely demise. The eVic died, leaving a bad taste in my mouth about electronic based systems. Bought 3 mechanical mods. Decided to dip my toes in again with a Vamo I ordered last night. Should that go well, I'll see about a ProVari.
 

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Of all people here, I knew you would be the first to respond, Kiwi.

YUP ! so true ,,just put provari anywhere in the post and kiwi is all over the thread ,,and has more posts saying how VW is better

funny thing is ,,he has never even had a provari so the only thing he knows about it is ?? what people that have one tell him
 

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    I'm seeing lots of posts by variable wattage users who are saying the opposite to that actually. The APV forum has tons of them. A lot of people like it. I am not seeing lots of people saying once they tried it they didn't use it. Yes, I know you have a certain way of vaping and don't see the need for yourself, but there are now thousands of people who do use and enjoy vw. Since the vw devices also have variable voltage people have both options on one pv. Most use the variable wattage. If that's what people prefer I don't see the need to try and make out it isn't popular just to try and promote a different option.
    You've posted an advertisement for your favourite pv, but I don't find your preferences are the same as mine in some respects.
    I prefer the three button menu myself - much more convenient for me. I like the look of the Innokin SVD right now too actually and the menu system is one feature that appeals.

    I have both, and use both. Trust me ..... the vapor has no idea which one I'm using.
     

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    Nobody needs variable voltage or variable wattage APVs. A cig-alike works just fine for many looking for a safer alternative to smoking. So does a Volt or other small battery PV, or a 3.7V fixed voltage APV. These devices serve their purpose well allowing many users to quit smoking with a small initial investment.

    If vapors want more vapor performance, prettier appearance, conspicuous consumption or peer acceptance along with the vapor experience, they can buy that too at a price.

    ECF gets very childish and silly with fanboys for Provari, Twist, Vamo, etc. all trying to boost their miniscule self-esteem by pushing their favorite brand of e-cig on everybody else, especially unsuspecting newcomers to vaping.

    I don't need high tech. I don't need high prices. I don't need to pay for extended warranties. I don't need an e-cigarette that I can pass down to my grandchildren and I don't want an e-cigarette museum display in my living room. I plan on upgrading soon not because I need to but because I'd like something a little more fun to use, has good battery capacity, is pocket sized with good battery capacity and has better voltage regulation than what I've got now.

    I've already decided what I going to buy and I'm not telling. :evil:
     

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    I think most of the "hate" is for Provari owners, not Provaris. :)

    I think the market is going to be much more high tech as more people discover vaping. Designers will fill the need for high tech and quality as the sales grow. We may just be looking at the first of many intelligent mods coming out as time goes on. Watch for an upscale mod with bluetooth, AM/FM, USB port for a thumb drive, and a non-contact inductive charging base. I look for a system that includes temperature sensing through a thermistor in the atomizer that communicates with the ecig to allow selective temperature control with a variable range (VT). Maybe I should work on the patent now. ;)

    I think the "Men in Black" producers are Provari fanboys.

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    PLANofMAN

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    I think the market is going to be much more high tech as more people discover vaping. Designers will fill the need for high tech and quality as the sales grow. We may just be looking at the first of many intelligent mods coming out as time goes on. Watch for an upscale mod with bluetooth, AM/FM, USB port for a thumb drive, and a non-contact inductive charging base. I look for a system that includes temperature sensing through a thermistor in the atomizer that communicates with the ecig to allow selective temperature control with a variable range. Maybe I should work on the patent now. ;)
    Yeah I can see that...except AM/FM. Don't you know, it'll be 5G with Sirius radio and Netflix. AM/FM is so old school, like 8 tracks.
     

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    Yeah I can see that...except AM/FM. Don't you know, it'll be 5G with Sirius radio and Netflix. AM/FM is so old school, like 8 tracks.

    I'm a talk radio fan. I still listen to AM when I have to. And then, there's that Classic Rock FM station that plays a lot of Skynyrd.. It's good grass cutting music for my WorkTunes headphones/hearing protectors. ;)
     

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    I'm seeing lots of posts by variable wattage users who are saying the opposite to that actually. The APV forum has tons of them. A lot of people like it. I am not seeing lots of people saying once they tried it they didn't use it. Yes, I know you have a certain way of vaping and don't see the need for yourself, but there are now thousands of people who do use and enjoy vw. Since the vw devices also have variable voltage people have both options on one pv. Most use the variable wattage. If that's what people prefer I don't see the need to try and make out it isn't popular just to try and promote a different option.
    You've posted an advertisement for your favourite pv, but I don't find your preferences are the same as mine in some respects.
    I prefer the three button menu myself - much more convenient for me. I like the look of the Innokin SVD right now too actually and the menu system is one feature that appeals.
    I have both. Never use the VW anymore. Why you ask? Because I know my juices and attys/tanks/whatever. In theory vw is great, and for some it probably is. I for one don't want the same voltage on everything. In fact hardly ever do I want that. At that point, vw doesn't make one bit of difference.

    Edit: I lied. I do use a kick in a couple mechs but that's because I have to.
     

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    I have both. Never use the VW anymore. Why you ask? Because I know my juices and attys/tanks/whatever. In theory vw is great, and for some it probably is. I for one don't want the same voltage on everything. In fact hardly ever do I want that. At that point, vw doesn't make one bit of difference.

    Edit: I lied. I do use a kick in a couple mechs but that's because I have to.
    Not to be contrary or anything, but setting the watts means that the unit sets the volts for you, and the volts will automatically change depending on what atomizer you use. That was my understanding, anyway. Did I miss a memo somewhere that says otherwise?
     

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    My problem with the provari, like many here have said, is the fanbase. I personally own one and it's NOT the messiah of vaping. It's not even my favorite mod that I own (that title goes to the Saber Touch). It's a great mod, but for it's price tag and it's features it's not really worth it unless you're not part of the 98% of americans with monetary problems.
     

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    My problem with the provari, like many here have said, is the fanbase. I personally own one and it's NOT the messiah of vaping. It's not even my favorite mod that I own (that title goes to the Saber Touch). It's a great mod, but for it's price tag and it's features it's not really worth it unless you're not part of the 98% of americans with monetary problems.
    No wonder you have problems with the fanbase, making comments like that. I used to spend nearly $2,000 a year on cigarettes, which was something like 8 percent of my income. At that price, there isn't a mod sold that is unaffordable to any ex-smoker. You just have to take a long term view.
     

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    Kinda why I went the path I did. Researched on the boards. Bought a relatively cheap eGo kit to see if vaping is for me. Stepped up a bit to eVic. Loved it until it met it's untimely demise. The eVic died, leaving a bad taste in my mouth about electronic based systems. Bought 3 mechanical mods. Decided to dip my toes in again with a Vamo I ordered last night. Should that go well, I'll see about a ProVari.

    I'll never get an eVic. It's not hate. It's just that I don't trust anything like that with so many bells and whistles. There's a potential for SO MANY THINGS to fail with an eVic. Sort of like how I will never own a car that doesn't have manual windows. I mean, what if I land in water at some point?
     

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    What I don't like is people who think that because something is the best for them, it must be the best for everyone.

    Many people in this world have a serious inability to see beyond their own point-of-view and appreciate that people are different.
    People have different wants, needs, and desires. People have different likes and dislikes. People have different convictions and aversions.

    I really don't know what's going on anymore! No one is reading, just shoving their favorite thing down some one else's throat, be it a Provari or whatever with total disregard to the OP's needs. It's frustrating when trying to help someone with a problem that's confused already, then overload them with suggestions that don't even fit their needs/wants.
    And this I am quoting for emphasis.
     

    tj99959

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    Not to be contrary or anything, but setting the watts means that the unit sets the volts for you, and the volts will automatically change depending on what atomizer you use. That was my understanding, anyway. Did I miss a memo somewhere that says otherwise?

    Na .. just missed the point is all.

    Hell, during the course of the day I may change the power setting for the same juice in the same carto/atty a half dozen times. At that point vw or vv becomes redundant. They both are serving the same function.

    BUT, to add to the redundancy of it all, how did you control how hard of a hit you would get with a cigarette? (let's get a good 'cherry" going for a nice 12 watt hit) :lol:
     
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    I take exception to this... It's the BMW drivers that get my goat! Mercedes drivers aren't too bad. Audi drivers are best! :D

    Funny. On the motorcycle forums, I see more venom spewed at Audi drivers than at all the other car and truck drivers combined... I see you must be a motorcyclist and a master of irony. :)
     

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    I'll never get an eVic. It's not hate. It's just that I don't trust anything like that with so many bells and whistles. There's a potential for SO MANY THINGS to fail with an eVic. Sort of like how I will never own a car that doesn't have manual windows. I mean, what if I land in water at some point?

    I've lost track of the original post, but you stated the Provari came with a lifetime warranty. It does not, it comes with a one year warranty with the option of two years at purchase. I just wanted to clarify that as no one else caught it.
     
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