Older Folks and Vaping Back Porch - Part 2

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Over the time we've all been part of the Porch, many of us have had to deal with the various curve balls that life throws, I am certainly not unique in any way and there are many that suffer thru much much worse .. I am so, so thankful for the chance to sometimes take it out of just my head and put it out here .. my only hope is that no one is shocked or offended by my laying bare and exposing a nerve .. nor that I or anyone else lives in a constant state of self loathing ..

At the end of the day, I am just very thankful to be able to be part of what I consider to be a Family .. although we may never meet face to face, there is a certain degree of peace that comes from just knowing we are all sailing along on the same water ..

Those who would be shocked or offended by someone so honest with himself and willing to try to draw attention to this can't call themselves my friends, let alone family. It's much more pervasive - and pernicious! - than is generally known. I have a daughter and grand-daughter who suffer. It's a shame that it takes a high profile to bring attention to it..
 

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At the end of the day, I am just very thankful to be able to be part of what I consider to be a Family .. although we may never meet face to face, there is a certain degree of peace that comes from just knowing we are all sailing along on the same water ..

Luv ya UW .. wouldn't be the same without cha ... feel free to open up any time ..we're always here for ya :wub:
 

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{{{{Uncle Willie}}}} - It's plain to see that I am not the only one that just adores you. I will have to disagree with you though.............I think you are pretty unique. (meant in the best possible way)
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Over the time we've all been part of the Porch, many of us have had to deal with the various curve balls that life throws, I am certainly not unique in any way and there are many that suffer thru much much worse .. I am so, so thankful for the chance to sometimes take it out of just my head and put it out here .. my only hope is that no one is shocked or offended by my laying bare and exposing a nerve .. nor that I or anyone else lives in a constant state of self loathing ..

At the end of the day, I am just very thankful to be able to be part of what I consider to be a Family .. although we may never meet face to face, there is a certain degree of peace that comes from just knowing we are all sailing along on the same water ..

You nailed it UW, beautifully. We'd probably be shocked to learn how many people know the Dark Rider or at least his little brother. {{{Uncle Willie}}} We don't mind if you turn it loose here once in awhile - we're more than happy to jump off the porch and stomp it back to size. Yep, we're sailing along together, all in our own little boats, just in different places. When the storm clouds gather just steer in the direction of the brightly colored ones and share their light.

 
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.. the root cause of the problem being the Dark Rider ..

You see, for those of you that have not been part of our thread family here from the get go, I'll again admit to knowing the Dark Rider all to well .. he's been there since I was in my late teens/early twenties .. and when he choses to appear, it's generally without warning. When he visits, my brain begins to believe that nothing I do is good enough, that I am a waste as a person, that the World would be a better place if I were not in it and that no one will miss you when you're gone and in fact, you'd be doing the World a favor to remove yourself from it ..

Many may find this hard to believe, but when I had my first heart attack, as I lay on the table in the ER, I was, in fact, the most peaceful I had felt in years .. I kept thinking, it's finally over, just let go, who really cares anyway .. ??

Over the years, the Dark Rider has cost me marriages, relationships, excessive drinking, hard drug use, uncounted days and weeks of just not being able to do anything .. I've gone thru the meds, the shrinks, the meditation but you just can't shake it .. the best you can do is hope that the good days last long and the bad days pass quick ..

It saddens me greatly when I read some of the on-line comments about Williams .. because, unless you've been there, you simply don't know what utter and complete dispair is, and I'm very, very glad that you don't because I would not wish it on anyone, ever .. when you are convinced that all hope is lost and there is no other way out .. and that you are somehow weak and worthless because of it .. it hurts, it hurts deep and sometimes you look for anything that will just make it go away ..

No one that has not met the Dark Rider first hand has a right to judge, condemn, philosophize, analyze, categorize ...

I appreciate any of you that take the time to read this, and even more, I appreciate the opportunity to say it in hopes that even if one person understands, it will help dispell some of the stigma ..

So, my friends, and I mean it from the heart ... "Carpe Diem" indeed ..

And now, that I've dropped a downer, I'm sure for many here .. I'll add a post script .. Life is precious and mostly good .. we suffer thru many things, all of us do, but we try and stay strong and move forward .. and I'm no different .. when I see young folks obviously in love, when I see a person that has a handycap of any sort yet they still stay positive and do everything they can to make the best of a bad situation, when I hear of the efforts of so many that devote their time and money to trying to make the World a better place, even if it's just a little, when I see people that struggle to give the best they have to supporting their family, when anyone is suffering for any reason yet still stays strong .. so so many reasons still to celebrate the human condition ..

There is still joy that can be found, because when the Sun comes up every morning, it's a new day, with new promise ..

Over the time we've all been part of the Porch, many of us have had to deal with the various curve balls that life throws, I am certainly not unique in any way and there are many that suffer thru much much worse .. I am so, so thankful for the chance to sometimes take it out of just my head and put it out here .. my only hope is that no one is shocked or offended by my laying bare and exposing a nerve .. nor that I or anyone else lives in a constant state of self loathing ..

At the end of the day, I am just very thankful to be able to be part of what I consider to be a Family .. although we may never meet face to face, there is a certain degree of peace that comes from just knowing we are all sailing along on the same water ..

You've expressed it so well. Thank you so much for sharing so eloquently. It's so nice to know that we're not alone. The Dark Rider tends to separate us from the rest of the world. Then, because we suffer in silence and therefore seem to be so few, society tends to treat us like we're freaks.

And, the first big step for me was to separate myself from the Dark Rider, to realize that it's not ME. Although I do have to remind myself quite often.
 
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You nailed it UW, beautifully. We'd probably be shocked to learn how many people know the Dark Rider or at least his little brother. {{{Uncle Willie}}} We don't mind if you turn it loose here once in awhile - we're more than happy to jump off the porch and stomp it back to size. Yep, we're sailing along together, all in our own little boats, just in different places. When the storm clouds gather just steer in the direction of the brightly colored ones and share their light.


This is an amazing place! Where even someone who contributes as little as I do is welcomed back again and again!
 

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At least they're planning a study. Even tho everything they'll study has already been studied. Someone should set aside money to study politicians.

In Canada they're pushing for banning it wherever smoking is banned. Cuz everyone knows nicotine causes cancer. And there's the second hand vape problem as well. sigh...

Seems the problem is world wide. Politicians are as sharp as a blunt instrument. Must be a requirement.
 
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