Older Folks and Vaping Back Porch - Part Five

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Uncle Willie (First, Hello. Nice to meet ya!)
Since I'm not part of the collective, I doubt my input would be of much help (My motto is Rock & Roll All Night and Party Every Day!). I suspect with most already in transit, that would explain the lack of response and that their "opinion" would only be that, an opinion. My best guess is that you should contact seapeach directly to clarify & quantify the restrictions since they are the sole party to the contract. From what I've read here, it all sounds pretty stodgy to me but, again, that's just an opinion. I hope you find the answers you seek and make it to the bash (assuming that's what it's "allowed to" turn into ;)). My vote (which doesn't count) is for ROCK OUT!!!
 

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Problem with amazon, they do a TON of 3rd party stuff. And that came directly from china. If you search around you can find blue jeans for ONE CENT. And free shipping. It is sad that you have to really pay attention to who's shipping from where.
 

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Von vape said:
Uncle Willie (First, Hello. Nice to meet ya!)
Since I'm not part of the collective, I doubt my input would be of much help (My motto is Rock & Roll All Night and Party Every Day!). I suspect with most already in transit, that would explain the lack of response and that their "opinion" would only be that, an opinion. My best guess is that you should contact seapeach directly to clarify & quantify the restrictions since they are the sole party to the contract. From what I've read here, it all sounds pretty stodgy to me but, again, that's just an opinion. I hope you find the answers you seek and make it to the bash (assuming that's what it's "allowed to" turn into ;)). My vote (which doesn't count) is for ROCK OUT!!!

Some folks bring a cheese tray to a Party, which I'm sure is always appreciated .. :)
 

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It is sad that you have to really pay attention to who's shipping from where.
That was the whole problem. LIS, I'm not that experienced with on line shopping to begin with then add in that you don't find out that it's a third party item until you've completed check out (at least I don't/didn't see anywhere that was noted during the check out process) THEN you get the email stating "X" will be coming from the supplier, "Y" will be coming from Amazon fulfillment and "Z" will be coming from the "third party" supplier.

I'm a "big boy" and fully aware of "buyer beware" but (in my opinion) it's a little "shady" to "load a cart", have everything listed together in one order AND THEN be informed that the order is being broken into three parts "because".................. especially in a case like this where it was an "impulse buy" on Amazon's "recommendation" (which is why they make the recommendation to begin with). It was just a messed up deal all around. Live and learn.

On the plus side, I'm now the proud owner of a $33.73 S.S. funnel that fits neatly into the neck of a 30 ml. bottle, with whatever additional value you put 3 hours of my life that I'll never get back.
 

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They made a "recommendation" to purchase an item from a "third party seller" (which I was unaware of until much later in the above process) which (in my opinion) they haven't properly vetted. I was given the run around by the same seller. I was lied to by THEIR representatives. (My Amazon account was credited AND I was ASSURED that my CC would be reimbursed as well, since the seller was in error.) Then, not only was my "claim" denied but my acct credit was removed as well. One hell of a crappy way of doing business if you ask me!!!
That really stinks. If it's possible to dispute the charge through your bank or credit card company, that's what I would do.
It's so very much unlike any experience I've ever had with Amazon.
 

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n the plus side, I'm now the proud owner of a $33.73 S.S. funnel that fits neatly into the neck of a 30 ml. bottle, with whatever additional value you put 3 hours of my life that I'll never get back.

Yepper, it 'helps' to be da eternal optimist up yonder!

BTW, never had your issue wid Amazon...
 

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In other news ..........

It looks like I'll be closing my Amazon acct.! :-x :-x :-x
First, let me say, I'm not all that familiar with "on line shopping" to begin with and I may have been ignorant about how Amazon does things. Still, what lead up to this decision (I feel) was "cheesy" at best and outright deceptive and usury at the other end of the spectrum.

Here's the deal, I placed an order for a U.C., a little wand mixer, a couple of boxes of coils and some glass bottles. As Amazon does, they "recommended" a little S.S. funnel (a $1.73 item) to go with the glass bottles (supposedly from the same supplier, Eclectic Supply) and I figured, what the heck. I don't really NEED a little S.S. funnel but it's only a buck, seventy-three so, sure, why not. I get "the cart" loaded, go to check out and there's $50 + in shipping charges, even though I selected the FREE Shipping that was offered on ALL items. Now maybe I just didn't/don't know where to look but I went back and double checked everything and MADE SURE I had clicked Free shipping on EVERYTHING. I went back to checkout and there was still shipping there but it had dropped to $32 (?). I went back again and STILL couldn't figure out what shipping was being charged on and, rather than scrap the entire order (most of which was REQUIRED equipment for our venture into DIY) I assumed (YES, I KNOW ....) that it had something to do with our order coming all the way to Alaska. I went ahead and placed the order and of course that's when you get the email "receipts" and how the shipment will be broken down & shipped. (It is still NOT an itemized receipt showing the cost of the product and the cost of the shipping.) LIS, being new to "on line shopping", and this being only my third order from Amazon, I never really did understand why everything wouldn't just come in one box and all be shipped together, and this was the case again. Oh well, whatever. The coils were coming direct from the seller, The UC, mixer & bottles were coming from Amazon and the funnel was coming direct from the seller as well (even though it was "supposed to be" from the same seller as the glass bottles. (? again). A couple of days goes by and the coils arrive and UPS drops off the UC, mixer & bottles but NO FUNNEL in a box that it would have easily fit into. I told my lovely Bride, "This is JUST STUPID! That little funnel would have easily fit in this big box, it's supposed to be from the same place as the bottles, Amazon RECOMMENDED IT, What The :censored: ???!!!)

The next day I receive tracking info on the little S.S. funnel and it states that UPS is the carrier & provides a tracking #. I go to UPS (Even MORE ridiculous to ship such a tiny thing via UPS!) and the tracking # was not recognized by their system. Okay, I'll go back into Amazon and contact the seller to find out where this silly little funnel is. I click "contact seller" and fire off a "where is it?" email. Amazon immediately sends me an "e" stating, "Your attempt to contact the seller failed. There is a problem with their email and the only way they will see it is if they check their Amazon acct." I replied to that email, saying, "I am trying to track this package. Can you assist me?" They wrote back, "We have contacted the seller directly and you should hear from them within two business days." (This was last Thursday)

Monday came and I still had not heard anything from the seller so I contacted Amazon through their "Help" link (which in itself is a PITA!) I explained the situation in a "chat" and was told the same thing, "We will contact the seller directly. Two business days, blah, bibadee blah, blah, blah..." I expressed my appreciation and asked, "While I've got you here, why was I charged $32 for shipping since EVERYTHING was listed as eligible for FREE SHIPPING?" The response was "Just a moment." and then they came back with, "The seller of the funnel you are trying to track DID state that it was FREE Shipping but charged you for shipping anyway." My response was an immediate, "THIRTY TWO DOLLARS TO "SHIP" A FUNNEL???!!! That can't be right, Amazon must have charged the shipping on the big box!" Their response was, " No Sir. Amazon did not charge the shipping. The seller was in error and we will contact them immediately and have them refund your overcharge."

Mid day Tuesday, I had not heard any more about this issue and I contacted Amazon again, by phone this time. I explained that I had tried all links through Amazon to remedy this issue on my own and none had worked. Furthermore, I had now invested over two hours of my time over a $1.73 funnel and STILL had not heard ANYTHING from "the seller". I would like to know where my funnel is and I would like to be reimbursed for the shipping I was charged in error. .......... "No problem Sir, I completely understand. Give me a minute to review the information and I'll be right back with you. (Time passed with an occasional, pleasant, "Just another few minutes please...") Finally, the person at the other end comes back (just as my wife walks in with a little 3.5 x 5 inch package and I explain that "it" has arrived via STANDARD MAIL and I would be more than happy to provide a picture of this tiny package that I was charged $32 in shipping for!" Their reply, "No sir that won't be necessary. I see that you were charged the shipping in error and that you have been trying to resolve this problem for quite awhile, Amazon can now file an A-z guarantee claim, since you have received the item and get your money credited back to your CC. I have also credited your Amazon acct. $32 for all of the inconvenience." (Me) "Oh well, OK, I appreciate that, THANK YOU very much! This is a move in the right direction and again, I really appreciate it!" The usual "Any thing else...." and we hang up, problem(s) solved, I THOUGHT!

Wednesday comes and the first thing in my email is "Your A-z guarantee claim has been denied." I responded with, "I appeal this denial.", and stated my reasons, backed up with the documentation of my efforts and conversations. Today I receive the same "Claim Denied" so THAT'S IT for Amazon as far as I'm concerned!

They made a "recommendation" to purchase an item from a "third party seller" (which I was unaware of until much later in the above process) which (in my opinion) they haven't properly vetted. I was given the run around by the same seller. I was lied to by THEIR representatives. (My Amazon account was credited AND I was ASSURED that my CC would be reimbursed as well, since the seller was in error.) Then, not only was my "claim" denied but my acct credit was removed as well. One hell of a crappy way of doing business if you ask me!!!

The kicker is that it was all over THIS! ....................
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(Also note the "untracked" on the "shipping label"!)​
Back charge the purchase? I'd stay on Amazon about the shipping charge. Every. Day.
 

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Re Post of an Earlier Post .. I have a guy coming in the Morning to load my gear .. so, not to be a pest, but I would like some input .. ?? I see no point in this exercise if a Boom Box is going to max out what we are allowed to do .. those that remember, I was a Sound Engineer most of my life (among other things .. :) ) .. Help a Brother Out .. ??

Uncle Willie said:

I won't fly since I had planned at the get go to bring a small system with me in the truck that will convert a designated area to a Club style space .. 2000 watts, two 18" subs, two 15" subs, lasers, the whole shizzle .. if you're going to do it, you may as well do it right, right .. ?? I don't know what the noise ordinance is, but I'm sure there is some sort of cut off time ..

seapeach said:

The owner of the house, with whom I am contracted, has made it very clear that this is a residential area and we should respect that. She has also let me know, based on the contract terms, she has had to have young people removed from the house by the police when their parents had rented the house for them and things got out of hand and the contract terms were violated. I assured her that we are a bunch of old coots who would be respectful to the neighbors even during the daytime and it is in the contract that after 10 pm there should be no noise.

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I live in a residential area myself .. and, periodically, I'll have an outdoor party where I set up some gear and 10 PM is when the noise ordinance kicks in .. up until then, it's pretty much anything goes .. even at low output, a proper system will rumble and sound will carry, it's the nature of the beast ..

Now, if your contract specifically contains some sort of noise definition, (which is pretty hard to define definitively) ..

Point being, there is no need for me to haul 800 pounds of equipment if a transistor radio has to suffice .. :) .. in addition, this morning I have toyed with bringing a Karaoke player and disks as well, which just adds to it ..

So, I'm making it clear that if I bring the gear, things gonna get loud, at least pre-10:00 PM .. sound travels, it cannot be contained .. as well, I personally could care less about the neighbors since I meant it when I said it's not a Party till 5-0 gets called .. Hell, invite the neighbors for all I care ..

Guidance from the Collective Requested .. :)


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I'm not going, so my opinion doesn't bear weight. However. Since you asked, & used the word "collective"...I'd say boombox it. Especially since Peach is on the line here. And since getting kicked out would crash the entire trip for so many, some of whom had to go through a lot to be able to make the trip. They'd be out the 200.00 & then have to pay for a motel room until their scheduled flights back home.
 
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So, I'm making it clear that if I bring the gear, things gonna get loud, at least pre-10:00 PM .. sound travels, it cannot be contained .. as well, I personally could care less about the neighbors since I meant it when I said it's not a Party till 5-0 gets called .. Hell, invite the neighbors for all I care ..

How far is it to the beach? Loud beach party @ 10:01pm?
 

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WOOHOOOO! Just got a call from my Bride with some wonderful news. Apparently the insurance approved her new chemo and the specialty pharmacy is sending it by next day air. She should have it tomorrow and will be able to start the cycle on Monday! :D

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That was the whole problem. LIS, I'm not that experienced with on line shopping to begin with then add in that you don't find out that it's a third party item until you've completed check out

On many Amazon items, there is a little note "Fulfilled by Amazon". I think that means you are actually buying from Amazon, though I wouldn't testify to it. Also, I've always had a total cost before completing the checkout, though you are one key click away from finalizing the transaction.
 

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Re Post of an Earlier Post .. I have a guy coming in the Morning to load my gear .. so, not to be a pest, but I would like some input .. ?? I see no point in this exercise if a Boom Box is going to max out what we are allowed to do .. those that remember, I was a Sound Engineer most of my life (among other things .. :) ) .. Help a Brother Out .. ??

Uncle Willie said:

I won't fly since I had planned at the get go to bring a small system with me in the truck that will convert a designated area to a Club style space .. 2000 watts, two 18" subs, two 15" subs, lasers, the whole shizzle .. if you're going to do it, you may as well do it right, right .. ?? I don't know what the noise ordinance is, but I'm sure there is some sort of cut off time ..

seapeach said:

The owner of the house, with whom I am contracted, has made it very clear that this is a residential area and we should respect that. She has also let me know, based on the contract terms, she has had to have young people removed from the house by the police when their parents had rented the house for them and things got out of hand and the contract terms were violated. I assured her that we are a bunch of old coots who would be respectful to the neighbors even during the daytime and it is in the contract that after 10 pm there should be no noise.

Uncle Willie said:

I live in a residential area myself .. and, periodically, I'll have an outdoor party where I set up some gear and 10 PM is when the noise ordinance kicks in .. up until then, it's pretty much anything goes .. even at low output, a proper system will rumble and sound will carry, it's the nature of the beast ..

Now, if your contract specifically contains some sort of noise definition, (which is pretty hard to define definitively) ..

Point being, there is no need for me to haul 800 pounds of equipment if a transistor radio has to suffice .. :) .. in addition, this morning I have toyed with bringing a Karaoke player and disks as well, which just adds to it ..

So, I'm making it clear that if I bring the gear, things gonna get loud, at least pre-10:00 PM .. sound travels, it cannot be contained .. as well, I personally could care less about the neighbors since I meant it when I said it's not a Party till 5-0 gets called .. Hell, invite the neighbors for all I care ..

Guidance from the Collective Requested .. :)


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I mixed up about this UW. I don't think it would be 'wrong' to have some 'sound' around the pool and have a good time. But I'm also thinking if it's a residential area we could get complaints if the whole neighborhood was listening to loud music from sun up to sun set. That could be problematic. I really couldn't say how much our fun might disturb the neighbors w/o seeing the 'lay of the land' so to speak.
 

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  1. Bumped to da top o' my tagged posts 'cause it should be!

    Kaezziel said:
    WOOHOOOO! Just got a call from my Bride with some wonderful news. Apparently the insurance approved her new chemo and the specialty pharmacy is sending it by next day air. She should have it tomorrow and will be able to start the cycle on Monday! :D

  2. Kaez,
    What absolutely glorious news ..
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    May your bride and you continue to reap your efforts!


    yiddleboge6 said:
    Just got home......had to have a pedicure.....sandals in Florida require pretty toenails....;)

    "The Dress".....is in my suitcase, which Mike can verify before we leave my place....:lol:

  3. Just a lil' clue fer down here, just walk da beaches and shuphphle your pheet thru da sands!


    garyoa1 said:
    Problem with some shake n' vapes is it may not be that great a week or so later! Steeping can improve or... rot.

  4. Yepper...


    Kaezziel said:
    Supposedly, adding a little bit of citric acid to the juice will help to stabilize the flavor so that it doesn't change much. I've not tried it...

    1. Been a long time proponent fer sum LJ or ACV (a drop per 5 or 6 per ml to make da joose recipes pop a lil'!


      Uncle Willie said:
      .. Help a Brother Out .. ??

      Uncle Willie said:


      seapeach said:

      Uncle Willie said:

      Now, if your contract specifically contains some sort of noise definition, (which is pretty hard to define definitively) ..

      Point being, there is no need for me to haul 800 pounds of equipment if a transistor radio has to suffice .. :).

      So, I'm making it clear that if I bring the gear...


      Guidance from the Collective Requested .. :)

      Willie,

      No one here expects you to be a concert DJ at da Odyssey. Just bring your personality, charm and succulent stories to enliven da festive environment, relax, sit back, share and relish in da porch camaraderie and love!

      At the very least, consider how far Susan (seapeach) has went out on a 'limb' (aka contract/finances) and has really made this gathering possible; along with a couple of our precious 'porch harem'...

      BTW, Jack is also awaiting your appearance...
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On many Amazon items, there is a little note "Fulfilled by Amazon". I think that means you are actually buying from Amazon, though I wouldn't testify to it. Also, I've always had a total cost before completing the checkout, though you are one key click away from finalizing the transaction.
That's true. I'm also a member of Prime and I select the prime filter before I even start shopping. Everything labeled prime, even if it's not fufilled by Amazon generally gets there in 2 days.
 

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I mixed up about this UW. I don't think it would be 'wrong' to have some 'sound' around the pool and have a good time. But I'm also thinking if it's a residential area we could get complaints if the whole neighborhood was listening to loud music from sun up to sun set. That could be problematic. I really couldn't say how much our fun might disturb the neighbors w/o seeing the 'lay of the land' so to speak.
Mike do a Google Maps search for the address andlook at the satellite view. Normal residential neighborhood. In other words the house next door is right next door. I'd still bring a sound system. We need it but don't have to blow down the walls with it.
 

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WOOHOOOO! Just got a call from my Bride with some wonderful news. Apparently the insurance approved her new chemo and the specialty pharmacy is sending it by next day air. She should have it tomorrow and will be able to start the cycle on Monday! :D
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