Pretty much anything that takes seperate batteries is a mod.
Mechanical mod has no electronic components.
I call my provari a mod, as well as my chi you.
Provari is not a mech mod.
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Pretty much anything that takes seperate batteries is a mod.
Mechanical mod has no electronic components.
I call my provari a mod, as well as my chi you.
Provari is not a mech mod.
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An APV (Advanced Personal Vaporizor)
IS
a MOD (MODified basic e-cigarette)
A MOD is any modification of the very first e-cig developed by Han Lik in 2003.
But personal vaporizers were first invented and patented by Herbert Gilbert in 1963.
APV was coined to distinguish the newer, more advanced MODs
An APV (Advanced Personal Vaporizor)
IS
a MOD (MODified basic e-cigarette)
A MOD is any modification of the very first e-cig developed by Han Lik in 2003.
But personal vaporizers were first invented and patented by Herbert Gilbert in 1963.
APV was coined to distinguish the newer, more advanced MODs
I generally write vv/vw for APV probably because I've been vaping long enough that mod was anything above and beyond the basic battery you got when buying a 901, 801, 808 or 510 atomizer and cartridge starter kit. I've added basic eGo style batteries to that mental list awhile ago but they didn't exist when I started vaping.
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I'm so confused! 
No, I do know the difference between the mechanical and non-mechanical, just wasn't sure about the terminology. Still think I need a lot more experience under my belt before I go mech mod.
No, I do know the difference between the mechanical and non-mechanical, just wasn't sure about the terminology. Still think I need a lot more experience under my belt before I go mech mod.
From a non-hobbyist, my definitions:
Mods are pretty much anything that is either creatively made, takes removable batteries, or is funny-shaped and has adjustable anything.
Mods you have to know a lot to use are:
--mech mods (because they don't have protection circuitry or automatic 10-second cutoff so you kind-of have to know what you are doing. Not a big deal, but still),
--mods that require more than one battery at a time. I won't buy these at all because I'm disorganized and don't want to be careful to always treat batteries as exact pairs and charge them together etc.
The devices that I'd recommend for a good, worry-free vape are either the Spinner, which does not take removable batteries, or any of the mods that are really-popular and well-reviewed (check out P. Busardo on youtube) by a lot of people, take no more than one battery, and have either variable voltage or variable wattage or both, and can take 510's and ego threading, so you can choose ANY topper. (Unless you want to be a perpetual beginner, in which case just go to Smokeless Image and get anything you want. I liked them a lot for 2 years but now I'm all-510) Look out for features you know you won't like. For instance, Phil (Busardo) didn't like the groove for people who vape with their left hands, but I vape with my right hand so I'm OK with it.
Also, how are you going to carry it? Light sabers like the Lavatube, the Bolt, and a lot of other long mods that take 18650's fall out of my pocket, and I don't like lanyards, so I like mods shaped like cigarette packs.
If you're worried about banning things, then get at least 1 mod that takes a removable battery. I have
1 I like for travel, since I only travel internationally with usb-type chargeables (The Groove 2, junky but shaped right)
1 I can put up with, (Lavatube. I keep needing to pry up the inside contact because it stops vaping)
1 I'll use only in emergencies (Itaste VTR, weighs over a pound with battery, vivi Nova, and eliquid in it)
1 I want to order for all-day use as soon as it's back in stock (I'm not telling until I've got mine!)
PLUS 1 spinner, and I'll probably get another.
Everything else is waiting for me to find someone to give it to.
I do not recommend automatic batteries, not enough control, too many things like adapters can make them go totally wimpy on you.
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Interesting, just got an email from the vendor that had the $30 deal on the MVP 2. Out of stock but with a promise that more were on order and mine hopefully will ship by the end of the week. I purchased the oak style.
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They work great with no problems of safety as long as you arent rebuilding. No difference really than an ego battery imo. But i do understand, dont be afraid though. The dangers lie in rebuilding coils and going to low.
I use mine with cartotanks.
I dont own the svd so i cant comment on it
Ah but I rebuild my carto tanks
Diver
I have thought of trying the diver, and the sophia!
I have done some building on rda and so far i dont like the way it vapes so i changed my mind for now.
I am probably the only person around who doesnt think rda's taste better than cartos tho lol.
Have you all seen the emax? It is like the spinner but it has vv and vw!
I would think that one would become popular to the spinner fans.
I prefer the itastevv3 because its digiital and i had a hard time reading the voltage on my spinner. Especially in dim light
I have done some building on rda and so far i dont like the way it vapes so i changed my mind for now.
I am probably the only person around who doesnt think rda's taste better than cartos tho lol.
Have you all seen the emax? It is like the spinner but it has vv and vw!
I would think that one would become popular to the spinner fans.
I prefer the itastevv3 because its digiital and i had a hard time reading the voltage on my spinner. Especially in dim light
Oh, yeah, and wuzzup with the microscopic print on the directions for all the new stuff? I can't read it with my glasses ON!
The spinner is not easy to read but it's a LOT easier than the twist!
Wasn't the emax also reviewed as heavy?
Pending Iffys review I would tell you to go with the sophia.
The diver 1 (which I am not sure you can get anymore) seems to be happiest with thinner juices. The one I have was given to me and the first own drilled out the hole a bit and it is still a bit of a battle of dry hits with 50/50 juice. I just have to remember to primer puff and then it is fine.
The diver 2 might have too big a holes. I did eventually solve the dry ht -> flooding -> leaking through the center pin at leas for the first 2/3 of a tank. But it is still a bit fiddly and the weird shape makes it super easy to dump the contents of the tank through the bottom when trying to refill it. Its sort of barbell shaped.
I use mine and like them well enough but I suspect the sophia went to school on them and fixed some of the issues. I am waiting on iffys report though.
Wow, gone for two days and ya'll moved 7-8 pages! I thinks I gots some catch'n up to dos!
A bit of warning to the DIYers out there. I did not post this before because I wanted to be sure exactly what flavoring was doing it.
TFA Spearmint has TWICE now caused the o-rings in my REOs bottle cap to swell to nearly 1.5 times their normal size making it leak horribly. I would imagine it would do something similar to most o-rings including those in clearos and carto tanks.
Be careful with this one folks.
TFA Spearmint has TWICE now caused the o-rings in my REOs bottle cap to swell to nearly 1.5 times their normal size making it leak horribly. I would imagine it would do something similar to most o-rings including those in clearos and carto tanks.
Be careful with this one folks.
I don't know how accurate it is, but I read somewhere that when vaping first started and people wanted bigger and better batteries they used the casings for flashlights and "modified" them to turn them into vaporizers and that's why they're called mods. Again, that could just be a rumor, but it is a cute story, lol...
That's partially true.
There are still subforums for battery mods, atomizer mods, and tank mods. We called anything a mod that was a change, no matter how slight, from the normal cig-alike/cigar-like kits. If you used a straw or a teabag in your cartridge instead of the original foam, that was a mod. If you put a battery in a tube, that was a mod.
Some people insist that mod means that it's modified from it's original purpose, like changing a flashlight into an ecig. But, to a lot of us it's always meant that it's a modification/change from the original design/kits that were sold as ecigs.
I actually wouldn't mind finding a better term than mod. But, I hate the term Advanced Personal Vaporizer because it's so incredibly inaccurate and feels so contrived.
Someone once suggested calling it a Personal Electronic Nicotine Inhalation System...
But that would leave out anyone who uses 0 nic.....
Other people call it their Binky.... I just call it a PV and leave it at that.
But that would leave out anyone who uses 0 nic.....
Other people call it their Binky.... I just call it a PV and leave it at that.
MissMcBV - That's not a rumor - when I 1st came to ECF the 'modding' forum was full of folks making 'mods' from AA flashlight tubes and copper plumbing pipe.
Dancing - I agree, don't like the APV term, particulary now that most APV's aren't 'advanced' considering what's on the market. ECF actually brought that term about trying to distinguish the higher end electronic PV's from 'mods' (stuff people were making themselves) and basic stuff like cig-a-likes and eGos.
I remember. It was an attempt to make them more respectable, to let people know that they weren't just homemade experiments.
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