Older Folks and Vaping Front Porch - Part 2

[PapaSloth]

Hi PapaSloth
From what I gather although one day i will spend a tad more time on one article rather than spreading my time over several. Except for in here where its all focus

Well, you can do it that way, but it doesn't sound like as much fun If someone sent me one of everything in a box, I'd probably be pretty happy trying all of it out.

Mech mods seem to be more lets say raw and less forgiving than regulated mods. Reg mods seem more automatic which sounds good to me at this stage.

Regulated devices have several definite advantages over non-regulated. The only reason I'm personally using mechs is because I want a smaller form factor that's easy to carry around, and most regulated devices are significantly larger that the 4nine and 2six mech mods I own (most mechs are also bigger than the 4nine and 2six for that matter).

I think at some stage i will get a different experience than I am currently by using the nautilus and the bvc's with whatever the wicking material is they have -some hard white stuff it looks like. Some of this rayon juiced up wicked into a coil sounds like it will offer something different. Will that be good or bad well with I'm sure unless first time lucky may take some tweaking. Not that I'm one of these people to be forever chasing the end of the rainbow , I'm actually easily pleased.

The white stuff in Nautilus coils is almost certainly silica wick. That's a type of ceramic wick that has an extremely high melting point. Bascially, you can't cause it to burn or melt at anywhere near the temperatures we're vaping at. Even if you get a dry hit, it may taste bad, but it won't burn the wick. The downside is that it's not as efficient at drawing liquid to the coil as cotton or rayon wicks. Some people also claim that the wick tastes different. For the most efficient wicking (fast transfer of liquid to the coil and good absorbant properties), people use rayon, Koh Gen Do cotton pads, organic cotton balls, and hemp fiber. Rayon and Koh Gen Do seem to be around the top of the pack. I've used silica, rayon and organic cotton balls, and the rayon is the best of the bunch as far as wicking goes. However, both rayon and cotton will scorch and burn if you get too much heat on a dry wick. So, that's a downside compared with silica. I personally find rayon pretty easy to work with, as well. The fibers are long and straight, so it's easy to tear off a nice piece of wick and stuff it into a coil. Rayon also compresses when it gets wet, so you can wick your coil fairly snugly without worrying about the wick getting choked (cotton expands slightly when it's wet, so you have to wick the coil more loosely). I also like Rayon because it's cheap. I bought 15' of rayon on ebay for under $4 including shipping, and that's probably enough to last me for years.

 

[Kenna]

I just joined Zamplebox. First box was 5 bottles totaling 56.00 retail value when I looked them up on the makers sites. A couple were ok. Gonna give it another month, maybe change my flavor profile, & see where it goes. I'll probably change to Vapebox or Craft Vapory after that.

 

[Wolfenstark]

The white stuff in Nautilus coils is almost certainly silica wick. That's a type of ceramic wick that has an extremely high melting point. Bascially, you can't cause it to burn or melt at anywhere near the temperatures we're vaping at. Even if you get a dry hit, it may taste bad, but it won't burn the wick. The downside is that it's not as efficient at drawing liquid to the coil as cotton or rayon wicks. Some people also claim that the wick tastes different. For the most efficient wicking (fast transfer of liquid to the coil and good absorbant properties), people use rayon, Koh Gen Do cotton pads, organic cotton balls, and hemp fiber. Rayon and Koh Gen Do seem to be around the top of the pack. I've used silica, rayon and organic cotton balls, and the rayon is the best of the bunch as far as wicking goes. However, both rayon and cotton will scorch and burn if you get too much heat on a dry wick. So, that's a downside compared with silica. I personally find rayon pretty easy to work with, as well. The fibers are long and straight, so it's easy to tear off a nice piece of wick and stuff it into a coil. Rayon also compresses when it gets wet, so you can wick your coil fairly snugly without worrying about the wick getting choked (cotton expands slightly when it's wet, so you have to wick the coil more loosely). I also like Rayon because it's cheap. I bought 15' of rayon on ebay for under $4 including shipping, and that's probably enough to last me for years.

So the 5 meters say 16' of rayon I got ( for $12.50 - Yes yes it was at the end of a day going through many sites and research and buying and getting none at some stores and i was trying to get two or more items from each store so postage didn't cost as much or more than the order) So that amount of rayon may last a while ? I guess my 98 feet of wire will be ok for a few builds ?

Got liquids today from ITC vapes , Heathers Heavenly vapes and Nicoticket.
Already have some from Highbrow vapor , Nicquid , Mount baker ,
Most of my items for the builds shipped yesterday or today.
Batteries i ordered aw 18650 2000mah I think i read they are 10amp. Seems a sony one around 30amps is popular.

 

[MikeE3]

Hi PapaSloth
From what I gather although one day i will spend a tad more time on one article rather than spreading my time over several. Except for in here where its all focus
Mech mods seem to be more lets say raw and less forgiving than regulated mods. Reg mods seem more automatic which sounds good to me at this stage.
I think at some stage i will get a different experience than I am currently by using the nautilus and the bvc's with whatever the wicking material is they have -some hard white stuff it looks like.
Some of this rayon juiced up wicked into a coil sounds like it will offer something different. Will that be good or bad well with I'm sure unless first time lucky may take some tweaking. Not that I'm one of these people to be forever chasing the end of the rainbow , I'm actually easily pleased.
It's an enjoyable interest / hobby / journey , plus the community as a whole are welcoming and helpful.

I probably vaped regulated mods for 1 - 1 1/2 years before getting my 1st mech mod. I just couldn't get it through my head why people used mech mods where the vape changed as the voltage on the batt dropped. Then I got one, then another, then another and now have more mechs than regulated. I do prefer them now and learned what coil Ωs I like. I can vape pretty much all day on an 18650 mech starting w/ a fresh batt in the morning. And by evening time the batt is still 'good' enough for a decent vape but not hitting as hard which is a good thing sometimes after gaping all day. (yeah - I never put my PV down.) That an an 18650 mech is no bigger than my Provari mini. And I'd got through 3 or 4 18350 batts in a day.

 

[DavidOck]

So the 5 meters say 16' of rayon I got ( for $12.50 - Yes yes it was at the end of a day going through many sites and research and buying and getting none at some stores and i was trying to get two or more items from each store so postage didn't cost as much or more than the order) So that amount of rayon may last a while ? I guess my 98 feet of wire will be ok for a few builds ?

Got liquids today from ITC vapes , Heathers Heavenly vapes and Nicoticket.
Already have some from Highbrow vapor , Nicquid , Mount baker ,
Most of my items for the builds shipped yesterday or today.
Batteries i ordered aw 18650 2000mah I think i read they are 10amp. Seems a sony one around 30amps is popular.

Well, let's see....

I use about a 2" ( ~ 5 cm) length of rayon for wicks, cut down after installing. Just easier for me to work with that longer piece. Each length separates to make 4 wicks for a 2 mm ID coil. That's about 80 per meter...

Kanthal is another story. Once you get the coil design and resistance you like, you may find the coil itself will last months. So that 98' will last, and last, and last....

On a regulated mod, those AWs will be fine. I tend to the higher mA rated ones, myself. Have some Sony, some Samsung around the 3000 mA range. The 10 amp is fine unless you decide to go subohm, but most regulated mods won't let you go there, anyway.

 

[HazyDayz]

I just joined Zamplebox. First box was 5 bottles totaling 56.00 retail value when I looked them up on the makers sites. A couple were ok. Gonna give it another month, maybe change my flavor profile, & see where it goes. I'll probably change to Vapebox or Craft Vapory after that.

Exactly what I was afraid of as far as getting random blends. Thanks for the heads up on Vapebox and Craft Vapory. I'll have to check those out!

 

[Kenna]

Vapebox sends accessories in their 40 level. Mods, rebuildables, drip tips... what's better than surprise juice every month? Asurprise something or other! I'm just looking for one with more premium or gormet juices & a finer tuned profile ability. I got a beverage that was a lime margarita. Ugh.

 

[3mg Meniere]

Well, I got my Russian today. I tried a different coil from what I use in my Orchid, but it went wonky twice AFTER putting it together. So I made my standard coil that I use in my Orchid, and it was OK. But it wouldn't draw. I finally realized what the hex key was for, and adjusted the draw. A bit of frustration, but it is going nice, now.

A bit of a leak. Do the wick tails go in the juice channels on this?

It is top-heavy on my Vamo. I don't know if I will get used to that.

 

[amoret]

amoret, if you got a spike strip for your chair you could eliminate about six of those steps.

Hilarious post! Glad you got it made.

I would be very much afraid that if I put a spike strip on the chair arm that the cats would proceed to put their attached curved spikes into my arm.8-o

That's a hoot, Amoret. I did know about the furniture-polishing attributes of VG. Don't listen to Flamingo regarding the spike strip. I don't use a scale for my joose-mixing but I do use one for my coffee-roasting. If I'm going to be needing to read it beyond the time it will auto-shut-off, I tap the scale every few seconds with my finger, which changes the weight momentarily, which keeps the scale from turning off.

Kind of funny - I roast my own coffee and have never used a scale for that. I know about the finger tapping, but keep forgetting, especially when the pause is because I screwed up and am trying to find the next ingredient.

Do they even make a scale without auto-shutoff?
Mine shuts off in the middle of adding if I forget to tap it with my finger.

I had one for a business that had an AC adapter and didn't shut off. Of course that one cost $400 in 1989.

 

[MattB101]

So the 5 meters say 16' of rayon I got ( for $12.50 - Yes yes it was at the end of a day going through many sites and research and buying and getting none at some stores and i was trying to get two or more items from each store so postage didn't cost as much or more than the order) So that amount of rayon may last a while ? I guess my 98 feet of wire will be ok for a few builds ?
Got liquids today from ITC vapes , Heathers Heavenly vapes and Nicoticket.
Already have some from Highbrow vapor , Nicquid , Mount baker ,
Most of my items for the builds shipped yesterday or today.
Batteries i ordered aw 18650 2000mah I think i read they are 10amp. Seems a sony one around 30amps is popular.

When I build a coil I use 6 to 7 inches of wire and a lot of that is wasted. Just having the extra makes it easier to handle the install. I also use about 2 inches of rayon wick. So yes I think you have enough to last you a while. As far as batteries go the AWs are great for the lower wattage mods such as VAMOs, ILeaf, or anything 20 watts or less. For the new high wattage mods that go up to 50, 100 or even 150 watts you need a high watt draw battery. These are the 30 watt batteries that everyone is talking about such as the Sony VTC4 or VTC 5 or the new EFEST high wattage batteries. In those mods the device can draw power faster than most of the lower rated batteries can supply. The wattage figure I look at is the "continuous" number not the "instantaneous" number. Hope the info helps.

Sent while presently sitting on my .... watching mind numbing prattle on the TV. 257 Channels and nothing on.

 

[Texaslimo]

If you want to try something interesting with your kayfun or russian, try a vertical coil with the wicking packed (not too tight) around the coil.. pretty dang good!

 

[MattB101]

The high draw batteries will work just fine in the lower wattage devices however the low wattage batteries WILL NOT work in the high wattage mods.

Sent while presently sitting on my .... watching mind numbing prattle on the TV. 257 Channels and nothing on.

 

[PapaSloth]

For me personally, I can't really imagine ever wanting to draw more than 20A from a battery. I'm vaping around 30W right now, and getting PLENTY of vapor. That's less than 8A. I think if you're not getting a satisfying vape at under 20A, there is something seriously wrong with either your setup or your brain. (They don't let cloud chasers on this thread, do they?)

 

[Ken_A]

Used to be I would get to this point and smoke a bowl of tobacco in my pipe.
Now, I simply make up a fresh batch of guava flavored liquid, and VAPE on my e-pipe for a bit while I muss my frustrations away.
Ladies: you ever wonder why men don't like following written instructions?
Got my small table saw today, and here are the instructions -
Quote: ASSEMBLE YOUR SAW IN THE FOLLOWING ORDER
1. Rip fence (NOTE: Adjust rip scale before proceeding; refer to Rip Scale Adjustment under Adjustment.)
...
Ok...
Flip page...
RIP SCALE ADJUSTMENT
(Calibrating Rip Scale)
1. Unlock the rail lock lever (W)
2. Set the blade at 0° bevel and move the fence until it is flush with the blade.
...
...
???
Um... Yeah... Before putting on the fence, you need to put the fence on and adjust the scale so you can put on the fence.


Sorry. This kind of logic escapes most of us. Time for a VAPE and check the forums.

 

[FlamingoTutu]

Used to be I would get to this point and smoke a bowl of tobacco in my pipe.
Now, I simply make up a fresh batch of guava flavored liquid, and VAPE on my e-pipe for a bit while I muss my frustrations away.
Ladies: you ever wonder why men don't like following written instructions?
Got my small table saw today, and here are the instructions -
Quote: ASSEMBLE YOUR SAW IN THE FOLLOWING ORDER
1. Rip fence (NOTE: Adjust rip scale before proceeding; refer to Rip Scale Adjustment under Adjustment.)
...
Ok...
Flip page...
RIP SCALE ADJUSTMENT
(Calibrating Rip Scale)
1. Unlock the rail lock lever (W)
2. Set the blade at 0° bevel and move the fence until it is flush with the blade.
...
...
???
Um... Yeah... Before putting on the fence, you need to put the fence on and adjust the scale so you can put on the fence.


Sorry. This kind of logic escapes most of us. Time for a VAPE and check the forums.

See, this is why you shouldn't buy a saw from China. Enjoy the vape.

 

[FlamingoTutu]

Done deal. My *new* black Provari will be in the mail today. I will soon no longer be a Provari virgin!

Sleep? Who needs sleep?

Yeehaw! Congratulations!

 

[3mg Meniere]

Sorry. This kind of logic escapes most of us. Time for a VAPE and check the forums.

Yep. I asked Google, and watched a couple'a videos. Next one will be better.

Acting like a guy, I was.

 

[FlamingoTutu]

I would be very much afraid that if I put a spike strip on the chair arm that the cats would proceed to put their attached curved spikes into my arm.8-o

Good point, definite kitty hazard. How about fly paper?

 

[Ken_A]

See, this is why you shouldn't buy a saw from China. Enjoy the vape.

Nope. It's a dewalt. American instructions and everything. I think the table saws are made in Mexico, but I could be wrong.

 

[FlamingoTutu]

Nope. It's a dewalt. American instructions and everything. I think the table saws are made in Mexico, but I could be wrong.

Then BP wrote it to boost tranquilizer sales. Honestly, it's almost a relief most vape gear doesn't come with instructions.