Older Folks and Vaping Front Porch - Part 2

[FlamingoTutu]

Yep if you get a ProVari the satin silver is 159.95 plus 20 for the extension cap. 20 cheaper then any of the painted ones and looks and feel everybit as good as the painted ones. My wife even dropped hers in the toilet let it dry with a little help and cleaned off the window where the screen is and fired it up thats been 2 months ago works flawlessly. I still have my PV1 which I had converted to a 2 and work as well as the newer ones. I bought it when it first came out on preorder. Toughly built.

Or you can get a blem for $130 ProVari Mini Satin Silver v2.5 BLEM Sale. Get yours now! and a Tatroe extension ring for $12 Tatroe Ring for Tatroe Base and be ahead of the game. I much prefer the Tatroe ring over their extension cap not only for looks but it gives it a sturdier base to sit upright on. And it's cheaper.

ETA Or go to their home page https://www.provape.com/ and enter to win a P3 starter kit for free.

 

[Kenna]

Flamingo, that's what i've been looking at. Does the ring allow for the bigger battery instead of the extention cap?

 

[FlamingoTutu]

Flamingo, that's what i've been looking at. Does the ring allow for the bigger battery instead of the extention cap?

It's the same thing, takes it from a 18350 to a 18490. You can use two rings to go higher, 18650 I think. Might try that when the current gang of batteries start to fade.

 

[MattB101]

Now Im going clockwise but still need to find a screw driver with an end that fits the screws and a handle i can get a grip on.

Go down to the hardware store and get a set of mini screwdrivers. Not only will it have a screwdriver that should fit but you can wrap coils on them as well.

This fine print is a not so subtle reminder to always read the fine print before signing anything.

 

[MattB101]

This mod I'm waiting on is supposedly a cloupor dna30 clone tis probably no good but eh eventually I'll get one of these p3.
Though if thats no good I will be disappointed.
Was thinking of an istick for another person but read a few people having issues and that youtube guy seemed to hint at the next model with changes would be better.

Don't get wrapped up in the gotta have a Provari thing. As a percentage of the vaper market I'll bet it's less than 5%. Lots of companies make fine vaping devices. It just a matter of finding what is right for you. Even some of the clones are pretty darn good. The Provari is a great device and if that's what fits your vaping style go for it but, it sounds to me that you're not quite sure what your vaping style is. Might want to try a few of the less expensive device before spending the fairly big bucks for a high end PV. Just saying.

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[lulu836]

Better airflow through the coil as air is passing thru the center. The idea is to make the I.D. of the coil the same size as the air hole of the atty. Better airflow = better vapor and flavor.



That one was wicked w/ hemp. The hemp was 'uber cleaned' (multiple boilings and washing/risnsing in oxyclean). Then it was cut up into small pieces and soaked in 50/50 pg/vg - then lightly packed into the chamber all around the coil. It worked well but I could only vape bakky flavors w/ it (the hemp for wick). No matter how I prepped the hemp it always imparted a taste to my juices. The 'taste' was Ok w/ bakky flavors but it ruined (for me) any of my fruit flavors. When I stopped bakky flavors, I stopped using hemp wicking. You could also do the same w/ cotton or rayon instead of the hemp. I think the rayon would probably work better though. It seems to 'transport' the juice and not suck it up like cotton.



Me wonders if that's still true for them. I was thinking that also, for the 1st few days w/ a Nautilus, particularly, just change a head and vape again, no maintenance. i think the Naut/BVC is the best clearo topper I've used and compares well to rebuildables - but just not the same. Mine is now relegated to a backup and or gets added to the travel bag when we're away from home and I don't want to fiddle w/ rebuildables.



Yay! Nice! I'm glad its worked out for you. What are you using for wicking?

Just be careful with that long lead, so it doesn't have a chance of causing a direct short. There was a preferred 'leg' (either the positive or negative) to use as the long leg to minimize shorting concerning. But for the live of me I can't remember whether the one is my picture was done the 'preferred' way.

The vertical build would SO be a huge help to me right now. I have KFs and use cellucotton. I have had 4 surgeries in two months to try and build an access for hemodialysis. The last one almost resulted in almost losing most of the fine motor skill usage of my right arm so I am recuperating from that and placing a horizontal coil is a real PIA. I'm trying to catch up on the technique but my somewhat addled brain (way too much anesthesia for a person of my age in a 6 hour time slot) is not putting it all together. I've been making my own coils for about 8 months and placing them is never easy but is quite a challenge right now. It will get better but the vertical technique looks to be somewhat less taxing than the horizontal. Can you possibly encapsulate your knowledge and technique especially about how you wick and where you terminate the wick ends around the juice channels.

 

[Wolfenstark]

Don't get wrapped up in the gotta have a Provari thing. As a percentage of the vaper market I'll bet it's less than 5%. Lots of companies make fine vaping devices. It just a matter of finding what is right for you. Even some of the clones are pretty darn good. The Provari is a great device and if that's what fits your vaping style go for it but, it sounds to me that you're not quite sure what your vaping style is. Might want to try a few of the less expensive device before spending the fairly big bucks for a high end PV. Just saying.

This fine print is a not so subtle reminder to always read the fine print before signing anything.

Well in most cases I am easily pleased. Yet even so and with money to buy any mod ( No buying a gold plated mod with gems on it is stupid) still takes much research before deciding what to buy or settling on something. Then the important part using it when you get hold of it.

 

[FlamingoTutu]

Don't get wrapped up in the gotta have a Provari thing. As a percentage of the vaper market I'll bet it's less than 5%. Lots of companies make fine vaping devices. It just a matter of finding what is right for you. Even some of the clones are pretty darn good. The Provari is a great device and if that's what fits your vaping style go for it but, it sounds to me that you're not quite sure what your vaping style is. Might want to try a few of the less expensive device before spending the fairly big bucks for a high end PV. Just saying.

This fine print is a not so subtle reminder to always read the fine print before signing anything.

^^^ This exactly. What works for one person doesn't for another. That's why there is a Reo camp, ProVari camp, this cap and that camp. By the time I got a ProVari, I'd read enough to know that was what I most wanted in a mod. The good part for you is, if you are determined to get one, that if you decide on down the line that it's not your cup of tea, or your tastes change, ProVari hold their value pretty well and you can resell it.

 

[PapaSloth]

YAnd if you remove them completly from the deck during cleaning like I do they are made of aluminum or something so my magnetic screwdriver I use to put them back in does not work like it does with the original.

Interestingly, most stainless steels aren't magnetic, or ar only slightly magnetic. I'm almost positive the airflow adjustment screws are non-magnetic stainless steel.
British Stainless Steel Assocation FAQ: Is stainless steel magnetic?

 

[lulu836]

I see half a Mini there, I think, but it's not a Nautilus. Is your new guy a Provari with the Tatroe end cap?

"Crop Circles" on 'Vari = v2.5 full sized.

 

[FlamingoTutu]

"Crop Circles" on 'Vari = v2.5 full sized.

Lulu, love your avatar, always have. Reminds me a lot of my horse and his peculiar ways.

 

[2legsshrt]

The PV3 sounds pretty cool but I'm wondering how much I would use the features. I like the idea of the power shot at the beginning of your vape an the spring loaded firing pin. If you get a satin silver PV2 its 159.95 20 for the extention cap the beauty ring is 10+ can't remember and they are out again so thats 190 the PV3 is 249.95 so 60 more. I don't know if I would use all the features $60 worth.

 

[MattB101]

^^^ This exactly. What works for one person doesn't for another. That's why there is a Reo camp, ProVari camp, this cap and that camp. By the time I got a ProVari, I'd read enough to know that was what I most wanted in a mod. The good part for you is, if you are determined to get one, that if you decide on down the line that it's not your cup of tea, or your tastes change, ProVari hold their value pretty well and you can resell it.

The thing these days is that there are lots of lower priced mods these days that perform as well or dare I say better than the Provari. I haven't really studied the specs on the P3 so I can't say about that one. I would still say you can do the same thing cheaper but, maybe not as reliably in the long run. I have gone through lots.of cheaper devices, mainly VAMOs that have crapped out after about 6 months. Mainly switches wearing out. The Provari is a well made PV that definitely give you the sense that it will last. However if it turns out that cloud chasing or sub ohming is what you find your into it may not be the device for you.

This fine print is a not so subtle reminder to always read the fine print before signing anything.

 

[MattB101]

Lulu, love your avatar, always have. Reminds me a lot of my horse and his peculiar ways.

My sister had a horse when I was growing up. Used to bring it to the house and keep in the backyard for the weekend. Spend the whole weekend riding on the beach. Grew up in Daytona Beach and no matter what you say, that was a heck of a beach.

This fine print is a not so subtle reminder to always read the fine print before signing anything.

 

[FlamingoTutu]

The thing these days is that there are lots of lower priced mods these days that perform as well or dare I say better than the Provari. I haven't really studied the specs on the P3 so I can't say about that one. I would still say you can do the same thing cheaper but, maybe not as reliably in the long run. I have gone through lots.of cheaper devices, mainly VAMOs that have crapped out after about 6 months. Mainly switches wearing out. The Provari is a well made PV that definitely give you the sense that it will last. However if it turns out that cloud chasing or sub ohming is what you find your into it may not be the device for you.

This fine print is a not so subtle reminder to always read the fine print before signing anything.

The one thing about the ProVari though, when you abuse it you can just send it in and have it repaired for a very decent price. They've been run over by trucks and through bailing machines and survived. That's not going to happen with many other devices.

Sounds very, very nice with the horse/Daytona. Alas, my horse never made it to a breach. He would have loved it. El Whacko has and did exactly what that horse is doing. Hates things touching his tootsies and that's why we pin him on the ground and tickles his feet.

 

[FlamingoTutu]

The PV3 sounds pretty cool but I'm wondering how much I would use the features. I like the idea of the power shot at the beginning of your vape an the spring loaded firing pin. If you get a satin silver PV2 its 159.95 20 for the extention cap the beauty ring is 10+ can't remember and they are out again so thats 190 the PV3 is 249.95 so 60 more. I don't know if I would use all the features $60 worth.

2LEGS! Did you see where I posted on the previous page where you can git it for $142?

 

[Kenna]

I'm thinking Provari for practical reasons. Reliability, warranty, repair availability, whats coming down the road. Looks are last, but it scores there, too. No cloud chasing or subbing for me.

 

[2legsshrt]

2LEGS! Did you see where I posted on the previous page where you can git it for $142?

Are you talking about a PV2.5 or 3

 

[Kenna]

2.5 probably. To start, anyway.

 

[MikeE3]

The vertical build would SO be a huge help to me right now. I have KFs and use cellucotton. I have had 4 surgeries in two months to try and build an access for hemodialysis. The last one almost resulted in almost losing most of the fine motor skill usage of my right arm so I am recuperating from that and placing a horizontal coil is a real PIA. I'm trying to catch up on the technique but my somewhat addled brain (way too much anesthesia for a person of my age in a 6 hour time slot) is not putting it all together. I've been making my own coils for about 8 months and placing them is never easy but is quite a challenge right now. It will get better but the vertical technique looks to be somewhat less taxing than the horizontal. Can you possibly encapsulate your knowledge and technique especially about how you wick and where you terminate the wick ends around the juice channels.

Oh my. I'll try. Disclaimer: I only used vertical coils w/ hemp for wicking for about a month. Then when I stopped using hemp - I went back to horizontil coils.

You don't really get to choose the diameter of your coil. The size of the air hole pretty much determines the coil size. Find something that fits into the air hole, a screw driver, drill bit, skewer, toothpick, whatever. Use that to wrap your coil. After wrapping the coil I'd take it off the 'mandrel' and hold it in the jaws of a pair of forceps and hit it with the torch to 'set it' (to hold the coil wraps close to each other). I found it tricky to do this once installed on the PV and using the PV to 'glow' the coil then squeeze it together w/ tweezers. (Which is what I do w/ horizontal coils)

The with the coil on the 'mandrel' put it into the air hole and connect the + and - posts. I'd attach the positive lead 1st. The adjust the height of the coil over the air hole (a couple-few millimeters). Then holding the 'mandrel' verticle carefully bend the negative lead (which will be on top of the coil) down and the around the negative screw. This is probably the trickiest part.

When I wicked w/ hemp, I'd cut the hemp up into small pieces and soak it in vg. Then take small clumps of the soaked/hemp and start packing it loosely into the chamber until the entire chamber was filled to the height of the top of the coil. It took a couple attempts to get the feel for 'how loose' / 'how tight' to pack the hemp. Too loose and I'd get flooding, too tight and it wouldn't wick well (yuck - dry hits).

If I were doing it with cotton. I'd probably pack the cotton dry about 1/2 way 'up'. Then wet it down and wait a minute or 2 to let it soak up the liquid, then repeat 'till I got to the height of the top of the coil.

That's 'bout it for what I can think to say. If you try it and have issues or more questions. Just post away here, what you tried and what didn't work and I'll gladly try to help you.

Also - you can go here and see what folks better then me have to say about vertical coils.

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/rebuildable-atomizer-systems/481316-vcore-vertical-micro-coil-oddy-kayfun-russian-ithaca-ect.html