Older Folks and Vaping Front Porch - Part 2

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I build micro coils on my kayfun lites and always try for 1.8-2.0 and don't have any issues at all. I do prefer to not go higher than 2.0 but that's just my personal preference.

Anyone who knows about building coils (Mike, Myrany, etc.):

I just read here that micro-coils heat up very, very slowly if you make your coils over 1.5 ohms. Is that true?

I really don't like the heat of such low resistance coils. So, should I not bother with micro-coils? Should I stick with the old style since I prefer closer to 2.0 ohms?
 

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Since the SVD is telescopic, probably not a big deal of flat top vs. button. I just happened to get flat.

Which does lead to one thing I did forget to mention. Unless they've fixed the little "manual" that comes with it, put the positive end of the battery toward the topper end. The manual says neg, but is wrong! The SVD is reverse polarity protected, so it wouldn't hurt it, but you might think you got a bad one!
 

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I really don't like the heat of such low resistance coils. So, should I not bother with micro-coils? Should I stick with the old style since I prefer closer to 2.0 ohms?
I don't rebuild my Kanger coils, just use the replacement packs. I use the 2.5 ohm coils in my tanks, even the small ones that top my eGo type batteries as well as the large toppers on my vv/vw devices. When I started vaping a few years ago in the days of atomizers and cartridges I much preferred the cooler, but to me at least, more flavorful vape from the 901 and 801 compared to the 510 atomizers. We all know that I was in the minority, as I think everything has 510 or 510/eGo threading today.

My long winded point being that you can use higher or lower coils just using factory available packaging without needing to get into the rebuilding world.

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To which I would have to ask define slow ;)

I run 1.8-2 ohm micro coils quite frequently and have never noticed a difference. BUT I also use 30 gauge wire not the heavier 26-28 gauge many prefer.
Me again - I think that person is 'blowing vape' with his statement. He said anything over 1.5 will be too slow. Right off I can tell you I'm doing 1.6-1.7Ωs and I have no lag time that I can notice.
I build micro coils on my kayfun lites and always try for 1.8-2.0 and don't have any issues at all. I do prefer to not go higher than 2.0 but that's just my personal preference.
Thanks all for the reassurance. Based on what y'all said, I'm assuming they must be using lower gauge wire.

I have 32 gauge. I'm thinking of buying 30 gauge also since it's a little sturdier to work with. But, no way I'll go any lower.

Whew! It's a relief to know that I'm not learning it all wrong. Thanks!
 

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Since the SVD is telescopic, probably not a big deal of flat top vs. button. I just happened to get flat.

Which does lead to one thing I did forget to mention. Unless they've fixed the little "manual" that comes with it, put the positive end of the battery toward the topper end. The manual says neg, but is wrong! The SVD is reverse polarity protected, so it wouldn't hurt it, but you might think you got a bad one!

Ahhhhh! That's good to know! Just dawned on me that I need to do my taxes, so this won't be coming out of my budget after all. Uh Oh, probably better I didn't know that.:ohmy:
 

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I do prefer working with the 30g I get more consistent results, but have used 32 as well.

Well poo...I was hoping my MVP might ship today so I could take it on vacation but I'm sure they got slammed with orders at that price...I have my MicroStick and will just take the EGOs as well if it doesn't get here.

Thanks all for the reassurance. Based on what y'all said, I'm assuming they must be using lower gauge wire.

I have 32 gauge. I'm thinking of buying 30 gauge also since it's a little sturdier to work with. But, no way I'll go any lower.

Whew! It's a relief to know that I'm not learning it all wrong. Thanks!
 

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I don't rebuild my Kanger coils, just use the replacement packs. I use the 2.5 ohm coils in my tanks, even the small ones that top my eGo type batteries as well as the large toppers on my vv/vw devices. When I started vaping a few years ago in the days of atomizers and cartridges I much preferred the cooler, but to me at least, more flavorful vape from the 901 and 801 compared to the 510 atomizers. We all know that I was in the minority, as I think everything has 510 or 510/eGo threading today.

My long winded point being that you can use higher or lower coils just using factory available packaging without needing to get into the rebuilding world.

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True. As a matter of fact I have a couple of 801s out right now.

I was going through my stash and charging all the normally unused batteries yesterday and got the urge to use my old 801s. They're not bad, but not great either. I've gotten spoiled since I last used them. Now, they're only a novelty.

My 901s are a bit better because I drip on them. But, even those don't compare to a 306. Good, but not quite good enough to rely on completely doing the job.

My original reason for getting into rebuildables was Vapocalypse. But, lately I've become frustrated with everything and just want to be in control of how my stuff works, IOW reliablity. Even my beloved 306s keep needing to be cleaned/replaced (and at too high a price).
 

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Ya know, the only thing I don't like about the MVP is that it is disposable. Can't think of the name, but there is one similar that takes replaceable batts, that I have considered, but they are almost twice the cost and much heavier from what I understand. I like the 'box' but being frugal, I would hate to have to toss it because the battery will no longer take a charge. But that's just me, I hate the idea of tossing my eGo's for the same reason.:blush: That and I really want something that I will be able to continue to use, should 'they' decide to make it illegal. All I'll need is batteries that I'll still be able to get. It may sound paranoid to some of you, but quitting analogs means a lot to me and I don't want to risk the chance of not being able to vape. Which is why I do plan to learn to rebuild and getting a mech mod or 2. If I have all I need and the only thing I have to buy is batteries, I'll feel much safer in my 'quit'.:blush:



A mech mod with a kick will give you the vw features.
I have the chi you clone, but i wish i had gotton the king. I hear the nemesis clone is awesome.

The mvp2 is a decent battery and is expected to survive 300 charge cycles.

The good thing about these mech mods is that there is nothing to really break on them since the batteries are replacable.

I have a small variety of devices...
The ones i use most are the provari and mvp2.
I have one mech mod but am thinking of getting the king clone soon.

They are nice, i usually use two differnt tanks, on a fresh battery i use a 3 ohm tank, and when it gets weak i switch to a 2ohm tank.
I have a kick clone, but i dont use it. I like to switch out flavors and found it was just as easy for me to have different ohm tanks.

I paid $60 for my chi you locally, but fasttech has it for less than $20, same for the king. I think the nemesis is closer to $30.

I like that the lengths are adjustable so i can make it smaller.
And i just found vapesox, just ordered one lastnignt, i havnt seen those around ecf yet, i think it will pair up nicely with my mods.
Plus they hold an extra batterry or two, or juice or tanks. The bigger one is $25
 

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Thanks all for the reassurance. Based on what y'all said, I'm assuming they must be using lower gauge wire.

I have 32 gauge. I'm thinking of buying 30 gauge also since it's a little sturdier to work with. But, no way I'll go any lower.

Whew! It's a relief to know that I'm not learning it all wrong. Thanks!

I usually use 28? But i did notice my 30 takes longer both built between 1.5 and 1.8.
Nothing too bad though, myabe up to a good two seconds to light up
 

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As I understand it, you can use the button or flat tops. But if the tubes was slightly short, you could have a problem with buttons. But as I see it, if it was slightly long, you have a problem with connectivity too, so 6 of 1, etc etc.

I was looking at mech mods and decided I was no where NEAR that point yet and read that you really should be making your own coils before you get those. Don't know how true that is, but I'm not to the point of making my own yet, but do plan to in the future cause that's just me, I'm a 'scratch' kinda girl.:laugh: Not much for premade anything usually. For now, all my clearos use the same heads, so it's convenient to buy the premade ones ATM. That and the fact that I know nothing about VV/VW. I have a lot to learn before I'm ready to go 'scratch' on my vape stuff. I DIY my juice, that's as far as I've gotten and it's still far from perfect.:blush:
The lower the Ω on the coil, the hotter it will get on a mech, I think. I have a couple of Mechs and use 1.6 to 2.2 coils on them just fine.
 

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Need a little help. I'm in south florida, Deerfield Beach, taking care of my mother in law. I need to find a brick and mortar store arpund here. Does anybody know of any or does anybody have link they can post for the website thathelps find them. Thanks in advance.

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I'm in Broward - the Davie area. There's a shop down here, but depending on where in Deerfield you are it might be a cruise....
 

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Need a little help. I'm in south florida, Deerfield Beach, taking care of my mother in law. I need to find a brick and mortar store arpund here. Does anybody know of any or does anybody have link they can post for the website thathelps find them. Thanks in advance.

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Found this -

Vapor Haven
778 S Federal Hwy, Deerfield Beach, FL 33441
(954) 531-0457

I haven't been there, but you could call them and see what they've got??
 

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Anyone who knows about building coils (Mike, Myrany, etc.):

I just read here that micro-coils heat up very, very slowly if you make your coils over 1.5 ohms. Is that true?

I really don't like the heat of such low resistance coils. So, should I not bother with micro-coils? Should I stick with the old style since I prefer closer to 2.0 ohms?

Very, very slowly is maybe 2 seconds? Mike says a .8Ω coil glows as soon as he hits the button and a 1.5Ω takes a slow blink of his eye. Well, that's the way he just explained it to me.

Mike just wrapped one that's 1.5Ω and he's running it at 3.7 volts (8 wraps of 28g around 1/16 drill bit) and he looks like a steam locomotive! He used the Nextel wick so he's got pure flavor too. We're both very impressed.


So, is there an in-between? Some coils touching, some not? Should I be googling this? I'm not getting enough vapor (which could be good, where vaping is forbidden) but maybe I'd like more when I'm outdoors?

See above. My understanding is that a micro coil is when you make the wraps tightly together, and even give them a squeeze together so they're all touching. The other coils do not. You're supposed to get better vaper from the micro, but when you're outside usually the vaper seems to disappear pretty quickly with the slightest breeze. It just seems like you're not getting as much.



Willieg - I think the Nextel is the best stuff yet! I don't detect any taste from it, just juice flavor. And it was all gunked up when Mike torched it and without much trouble it looked like new. We're really impressed. Now watch, somebody will come along and say there's something awful about it... Until then though, I vote this stuff as the best.
 

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So, is there an in-between? Some coils touching, some not? Should I be googling this? I'm not getting enough vapor (which could be good, where vaping is forbidden) but maybe I'd like more when I'm outdoors?

What are you using now that isn't giving you enough vapor? Is a rebuildable? Let's see if we can figure out why you're not getting enough vapor.

Thanks all for the reassurance. Based on what y'all said, I'm assuming they must be using lower gauge wire.

I have 32 gauge. I'm thinking of buying 30 gauge also since it's a little sturdier to work with. But, no way I'll go any lower.

Whew! It's a relief to know that I'm not learning it all wrong. Thanks!

Go for it Dancing, I mainly use 28g now - but 30g is a very good all around size to work with.

I do prefer working with the 30g I get more consistent results, but have used 32 as well.

Well poo...I was hoping my MVP might ship today so I could take it on vacation but I'm sure they got slammed with orders at that price...I have my MicroStick and will just take the EGOs as well if it doesn't get here.

he, he - eGo's and a Microstick - that pretty much goes from one end of the vapin' spectrum to the other. But hey - they both work! :laugh:
 

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A mech mod with a kick will give you the vw features.
I have the chi you clone, but i wish i had gotton the king. I hear the nemesis clone is awesome.

The mvp2 is a decent battery and is expected to survive 300 charge cycles.

The good thing about these mech mods is that there is nothing to really break on them since the batteries are replacable.

I have a small variety of devices...
The ones i use most are the provari and mvp2.
I have one mech mod but am thinking of getting the king clone soon.

They are nice, i usually use two differnt tanks, on a fresh battery i use a 3 ohm tank, and when it gets weak i switch to a 2ohm tank.
I have a kick clone, but i dont use it. I like to switch out flavors and found it was just as easy for me to have different ohm tanks.

I paid $60 for my chi you locally, but fasttech has it for less than $20, same for the king. I think the nemesis is closer to $30.

I like that the lengths are adjustable so i can make it smaller.
And i just found vapesox, just ordered one lastnignt, i havnt seen those around ecf yet, i think it will pair up nicely with my mods.
Plus they hold an extra batterry or two, or juice or tanks. The bigger one is $25

Maybe I mistakenly referred to the SVD as a mod? Aren't they APV? My mistake. I think I messed up in the terminology.

I looked at mech mods first and decided that I didn't know enough yet to go that route, too much I have to learn. But I expect my next 'stop' to be a mech mod or 2 or 3. That would be ideal IMO, no electronics to break down. But until I am better versed, I think I need to stay with something that sorta does the work for me.:oops:
 

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Maybe I mistakenly referred to the SVD as a mod? Aren't they APV?
Six of one, half a dozen of the other. I call them all mods because that's what they all USED to be called.

I never liked the term APV. It tends to get applied to any battery tube. Besides the battery tube is not a vaporizer (advanced or otherwise), it's a power source. The atomizer is a vaporizer. The advanced personal vaporizer is really just one part of the overall device.

Maybe I just don't like change all that much. I liked it better when they were called battery mods.
 

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Six of one, half a dozen of the other. I call them all mods because that's what they all USED to be called.

I never liked the term APV. It tends to get applied to any battery tube. Besides the battery tube is not a vaporizer (advanced or otherwise), it's a power source. The atomizer is a vaporizer. The advanced personal vaporizer is really just one part of the overall device.

Maybe I just don't like change all that much. I liked it better when they were called battery mods.

:laugh: OK, now I'm even more confused! FT has the SVD under 'mods', but I found when I used the term, people thought I meant mech mods. Granted, that was my first choice until I did some research and decided I just wasn't ready for that.:D Guess I don't like change much either huh?;)
 

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Maybe I mistakenly referred to the SVD as a mod? Aren't they APV? My mistake. I think I messed up in the terminology.

I looked at mech mods first and decided that I didn't know enough yet to go that route, too much I have to learn. But I expect my next 'stop' to be a mech mod or 2 or 3. That would be ideal IMO, no electronics to break down. But until I am better versed, I think I need to stay with something that sorta does the work for me.:oops:

They work great with no problems of safety as long as you arent rebuilding. No difference really than an ego battery imo. But i do understand, dont be afraid though. The dangers lie in rebuilding coils and going to low.

I use mine with cartotanks.
I dont own the svd so i cant comment on it ;)
 
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