Older Folks and Vaping Front Porch - Part 5

[DavidOck]

Hi everybody, so I've had all the supplies for diy juice for over a month, and find myself paralized with nerves. I bought 100strength pg Nic ages ago and just stuck it in the freezer in its plastic bottle. Got my pg and vg. Flavours arrived over a month ago. But everything I'm reading is telling me I need to get a full hazmat suit and a course in lab safety! I've got surgical gloves and measuring beakers and syringes. Are the fumes dangerous as well? Can it be mixed thoroughly without an electric appliance? Im vaping at 6 for now, but in addition to my fear of handling the Nic, I'm concerned about trusting the eliquid calculator to determine how much Nic to add to get to 6. If I put up a recipe, can you guys just double check the math? I went ahead and ordered premade to buy myself enough time to try to get a grip. I wish they made a chart for different size batches using 100 Nic to end up at 6.
Everyone good? Anyone making e juice at 6 with 100nic, pose PM me. I'll have a go at putting the same ingredients through a few different calculators and see if they all come out with the same quantities.
I need to price premade in New Zealand, now that it's legal there, and see if it's cheaper, but I still want to make my own, after I get my fear down to a manageable level.

Don't drink it. Fumes are not an issue at all, unless maybe you're mixing in 10 liter batches. (Not recommended, unless you know, really REALLY know that you love that flavor! )

I mix at a sink, so any splashed on myself can be quickly rinsed off - and I don't bother with gloves at all. Yes, it's skin absorbable, but it takes some time. A splash, finish the particular step you're on, rinse. No problem.

Depending on size batch I'm making, I'll either be mixing in a graduated cylinder or a larger vessel like a glass measuring cup. I stir well with a stick, not electric, then decant into the usual fine tip bottles, which get the usual shake and steep.

Calcs in ejuicemeup are accurate, at least for ml. Imo drop sizes can vary - how big is the hole in the tip?? - and I mix by volume, not weight, so haven't checked out that part of the program. (If you do decide to mix by weight, carefully weigh samples of each component - PG and VG, nic in either, don't all weight the same. You'll need to tune whatever calculator you use with those values to be really precise.)

 

[3mg Meniere]

Don't drink it. Fumes are not an issue at all, unless maybe you're mixing in 10 liter batches. (Not recommended, unless you know, really REALLY know that you love that flavor! )

If you mix in a small closed-off area, you might find the fumes to be bothersome. If you cannot do it in a large room, outside would be preferable.

 

[Kenna]

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This should be a thing!

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[2legsshrt]

Don't drink it. Fumes are not an issue at all, unless maybe you're mixing in 10 liter batches. (Not recommended, unless you know, really REALLY know that you love that flavor! )

I mix at a sink, so any splashed on myself can be quickly rinsed off - and I don't bother with gloves at all. Yes, it's skin absorbable, but it takes some time. A splash, finish the particular step you're on, rinse. No problem.

Depending on size batch I'm making, I'll either be mixing in a graduated cylinder or a larger vessel like a glass measuring cup. I stir well with a stick, not electric, then decant into the usual fine tip bottles, which get the usual shake and steep.

Calcs in ejuicemeup are accurate, at least for ml. Imo drop sizes can vary - how big is the hole in the tip?? - and I mix by volume, not weight, so haven't checked out that part of the program. (If you do decide to mix by weight, carefully weigh samples of each component - PG and VG, nic in either, don't all weight the same. You'll need to tune whatever calculator you use with those values to be really precise.)

I have no problem with it when you get your recipes down the nic is simple if you make 100ml bottles at 6 mg just add 6ml, 30ml bottles its .3ml per 1% so you would add 1.8ml. Get some 1cc syringes and depending on what % you mix your VG PG at for 100ml bottles get a 65ml syringe makes it easier. If you do all VG that 65ml has a big tip and you don't have to use a blunt tip needle. When I was vaping 50/50 I mixed up 1/2 gallon at a time with max VG for me it is a little thick so I am experimenting with adding distilled water. My first batch I used 10% which was too much so I'm going to try 2%. I find I use the 1, 3, 10, 25, and 65ml syringes the most which will work for almost any juice and use ejuicemeup. Easy Peasey. Save your recipes there is a popup that comes up when you finish on ejuicemeup and you just name it and save so it's always there. I really have no problem at all with 100mg nic. I just do it in my vape room. Have never really noticed any fumes and I open it get what I want and close it back up immediately so my fumble fingers doesn't knock it over.

 

[2legsshrt]

Got my order into Spicy Vape today. Site was working fine the Butter was back, No Creme de la Creme. All DIY got Watermelon, Blueberry, Butter, Hazelnut, Spearmint, Mango, and Sweet Cream. Will let you know how their concentrates are.

 

[2legsshrt]

Got an email from Wizard and they said something was wrong with their ordering system and they got it out today. Now I have to take an inventory of my Baker Flavors and see what I need. I'm definately getting Cocoa Beans which is the best chocolate flavor I have ever tried, I need more Cream which is a really buttery cream flavor that after I tried it I use in 90% of my recipes. I know I have a bunch of flavors already so need to inventory it so I don't double order. Also need to order a gallon of VG from Amazon. Also need to order somemore bottles with phelonic lids, I like the blue the best.

 

[Iffy]

But everything I'm reading is telling me I need to get a full hazmat suit and a course in lab safety!

Pshaw! Like most here, I wear no protective gear. Just remember, respect nic, not fear it.

Also, I use e-JuiceMeUp for all my joose recipes. So far, so good... day-um good!

 

[garyoa1]

 

[mattiem]

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all suited up to do some mixin"

 

[2legsshrt]

I have no problem with it when you get your recipes down the nic is simple if you make 100ml bottles at 6 mg just add 6ml, 30ml bottles its .3ml per 1% so you would add 1.8ml. Get some 1cc syringes and depending on what % you mix your VG PG at for 100ml bottles get a 65ml syringe makes it easier. If you do all VG that 65ml has a big tip and you don't have to use a blunt tip needle. When I was vaping 50/50 I mixed up 1/2 gallon at a time with max VG for me it is a little thick so I am experimenting with adding distilled water. My first batch I used 10% which was too much so I'm going to try 2%. I find I use the 1, 3, 10, 25, and 65ml syringes the most which will work for almost any juice and use ejuicemeup. Easy Peasey. Save your recipes there is a popup that comes up when you finish on ejuicemeup and you just name it and save so it's always there. I really have no problem at all with 100mg nic. I just do it in my vape room. Have never really noticed any fumes and I open it get what I want and close it back up immediately so my fumble fingers doesn't knock it over.

Also a set of beakers is handy to have for when your flavoring and VG PG gets down lower then the syringe will go. I have a 25ml but it is not big enough and I see sets on Amazon for around $10 sizes 50, 100, 250ml glass.

 

[Vape?]

for 30 ml - nic = 1.8 ml
for 15 ml - nic = .9 ml
for 10 ml - nic = .6 ml

you have a base of 100 mg nic
divide that by your desired strenght of 6
then divide the size of the bottle(30,15,10) by that result

base/strength needed = desired strength

size of bottle (30,15,10) / desired strength = amount to add

total amount needed / (base/desired strength)



or say it like
bottle size(30) = B
100ml nic = NC
desired nic(6) = DN

B/(NC/DN) =
30/(100/6) =
30/16.666 =
1.800


hope one of those makes sense

But we made a spreadsheet for it anyway - a while ago
vape - Google Drive

Thank you, what a relief. I will keep that spread sheet. Priceless.

 

[garyoa1]

Another note. It's hard to get 120 ml into a 120ml bottle. Just make 100 ml.

 

[Kenna]

Another note. It's hard to get 120 ml into a 120ml bottle. Just make 100 ml.

Yes! And leaves room for shaking to blend contents well.

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[Vape?]

Thanks,
The ejuicemeup calculator doesn't work on my iPad, but there are a lot of others. Not mixing by weight, but will get some glass measuring devices. I've been wondering if I should put the Nic in the freezer into glass canning jars? Is it ok in the plastic bottle it came in? It's pg, does the nicotine settle or does it stay distributed evenly?

 

[garyoa1]

Thanks,
The ejuicemeup calculator doesn't work on my iPad, but there are a lot of others. Not mixing by weight, but will get some glass measuring devices. I've been wondering if I should put the Nic in the freezer into glass canning jars? Is it ok in the plastic bottle it came in? It's pg, does the nicotine settle or does it stay distributed evenly?

 

[Kenna]

Thanks,
The ejuicemeup calculator doesn't work on my iPad, but there are a lot of others. Not mixing by weight, but will get some glass measuring devices. I've been wondering if I should put the Nic in the freezer into glass canning jars? Is it ok in the plastic bottle it came in? It's pg, does the nicotine settle or does it stay distributed evenly?

It stays suspended pretty much. Give it a good shake before opening. My 4 1/2 liters are in the bottles they came in & in the freezer. When I open liter I put it into 100ml glass wide mouth bottles in the freezer. When I need nic to mix with I just pull a bottle & bring it to room temp before opening, then keep it in a cool dark place.

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[Iffy]

all suited up to do some mixin"

Apron?!?!? I didn't ask fer a sammich!

Seriously, is she one of yours? Luv da smile...

 

[Debadoo]

This should be a thing!

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It is a thing now!! and you are the first recipient!

Also a set of beakers is handy to have for when your flavoring and VG PG gets down lower then the syringe will go. I have a 25ml but it is not big enough and I see sets on Amazon for around $10 sizes 50, 100, 250ml glass.

I do most everything I do with a glass 1 cup measuring cup, and a 60 ml syringe. Don't use the plunger on it, but basically use it like a funnel. I do measure with it some, but just pour whatever I'm measuring into the top with my pinky under the bottom ala Iffy. I also use 1 ml syringes for now to measure my flavors that's it.

Thanks,
The ejuicemeup calculator doesn't work on my iPad, but there are a lot of others. Not mixing by weight, but will get some glass measuring devices. I've been wondering if I should put the Nic in the freezer into glass canning jars? Is it ok in the plastic bottle it came in? It's pg, does the nicotine settle or does it stay distributed evenly?

Be careful with some of the apps. I've dl'd a couple and one that I tried to use was so confusing on what you entered where. Since I'd made a particular recipe often enough, I knew it was telling me the wrong amount. I'm sure it was because I didn't enter something in the right place, but it was really set up badly and didn't call things by the names we're used to. If I hadn't known it was wrong, I'd have made it like that and messed it up.

Glass is best because plastic will oxidize over time. That being said, if it ships in plastic, some folks rebottle into glass then freeze, some leave it. The worst that can happen is maybe turning slightly yellow, or a probably unnoticeable decrease in your nic strength, so basically whatever you are comfortable with. You do need to shake your nic. It will distribute and stay that way better in pg than vg. If you have vg nic you really really really need to shake it. stir it if you can. But I see you said yours is in pg

 

[2legsshrt]

Another note. It's hard to get 120 ml into a 120ml bottle. Just make 100 ml.

Exactly Ejuicemeup works good for that also the nic plus it keeps track of what you want your juice to come out like 70/30 you put in what base your nic is in, whether your flavors are PG or VG water or vodka all kinds of good things.

 

[mattiem]

Apron?!?!? I didn't ask fer a sammich!

Seriously, is she one of yours? Luv da smile...

She does look like a happy little lady, doesn't she...but nope not one of mine. Just a photo I found on the net. I just wanted to point out that a haz mat suit ain't needed