Older Folks and Vaping Front Porch - Part Four

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Robert Cromwell

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I was leary of it, too, but determined to cut my costs. About the only thing I really enjoy vaping is creamy, custardy, cakey flavors. Once I accepted that was where I was gonna be, it made the idea of diy easier. Same with building coils, I was tired of buying coils & knew I could eliminate that expense, & scratch juice & coils off my monthly shopping list. Once the start up expense is over it's all gravy after that. Now I buy one 90 ml bottle of one juice every 3 months for under $60. That's it except for future proofing with more devices, nic, pg/vg & flavors. Devices & nic take priority since that's what will be harder to get.
Yepper on the creamy custardy flavors.
Yep I plan on getting 1 more liter of nic soon. That should last me for 15 years or so at my consumption rate.
I will likely get 2 more mods. Perhaps another Kanger subox mini and another VTC mini. I have pairs of all my other mods. Perhaps I can get them to reproduce?
 

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As things stand now, the most important thing to do is lay in a stock of nic. It may well be that it won't be available in the near future. The very near future.
Yeah that's been my concern. Maybe I'd be better off buying vg, pg & nic separately. My favourite flavors are blueberry, raspberry & ruyan4. The berry stuff would be easier to mix I think.
 

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Vape Rev has a new juice that has all natural ingredients to include vit B12 teas supposed to clear your mind. 30ml for $26. I don't think so.
When they make one that clears your mind from mini strokes, please, please let me know.
Clearing your mind would require a mind. Cuts me right out. :(
You gotta have something up there or you couldn't build a coil. Have faith. :)
And you don't need to buy a kit to get started. Imo, they are over priced & you'll end up not using some of the stuff in them.
I agree. I didn't buy a kit but I might as well have. Got enough glassware that I've never used to start my own Frankenstein lab.
Hey Mike Joyetech just launched a new mod. It's not even available in the states yet just China till next week. 2 18650's 150w settings for VW, Ni, Ti, SS, manual TCR they already have an upgrade firmware available to kick it to 200w heres the kicker $34.99 in China. Has dual battery bars. This stuff is just getting crazy. Called the Cuboid similar to a Graboid only hasn't come out with a movie yet. You've seen at least one of the Tremor movies right?
Yes! Make Mikey try it. :thumbs:
May I pet it?
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Yepper on the creamy custardy flavors.
Yep I plan on getting 1 more liter of nic soon. That should last me for 15 years or so at my consumption rate.
I will likely get 2 more mods. Perhaps another Kanger subox mini and another VTC mini. I have pairs of all my other mods. Perhaps I can get them to reproduce?
Hee Hee, I have 2 of all my fave mods. Wish they would reproduce, then I would be set!
 

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Yepper on the creamy custardy flavors.
Yep I plan on getting 1 more liter of nic soon. That should last me for 15 years or so at my consumption rate.
I will likely get 2 more mods. Perhaps another Kanger subox mini and another VTC mini. I have pairs of all my other mods. Perhaps I can get them to reproduce?
As long as you don't house them in the freezer. Perhaps a dark cupboard?
Yeah that's been my concern. Maybe I'd be better off buying vg, pg & nic separately. My favourite flavors are blueberry, raspberry & ruyan4. The berry stuff would be easier to mix I think.
My understanding is that fruit flavors blend more quickly. Start simple and work your way up. We talked one porcher into DIY and really didn't see him again after that. He quickly became sort of a master mixer. Mech? He was from Medford. Bummed he is gone but did pass on a few good recipes before he vanished. Think his real name was Mike. Miss seeing him around. :(

You are better off buying them separately. VG can be had at Wal-Mart, among other (better) places. PG is used for cows with postpartum depression, essentially. Also used in things like soap making. Flavoring has been around forever, just be sure you know what is safe, oil based ones are NOT. Nic will be the crunch. Nic is the one thing we encourage people to buy. Also backup gear. As written, the FDA can ban/restrict things 30 days after the deeming go into effect. Then again, it could drag on for years, but, then again, the bans may stay in place until it's settled as they did last time. How much of a betting man are you? I think everybody here is not taking that bet and stocking up. Please, just buy the nic and work up the courage to DIY at a later date. Everybody here is more than willing (think bulls charging the gates) to help.
 

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Give us your monies, we'll get you mod poor, fast! I'm up to 18 Kayfuns, & 4 or 5 Magma's. Kayfun's are SS, RoseGold, White, & Black. Magma's because they screw together & I can get them apart easily. Plus the flavor & airflow is great. I see more of those coming for possible future bf options. Now I'm focusing on more mods, nic, & flavors.
OK. You talked me into it. I just ordered 2 Hobbits from FT and have Magmas in my shopping cart at Vapor Range for Thursday night after I get paid.

And which is the one that's all the rage right now, Velocity or Veritas? I think it's the Velocity right? Vapor Range has that too.

I think I have enough nic to last me the rest of my life. But, next time I go to my brother's house and pick up some more of my nic out of his freezer, I'll double check.
I have an eliquid calculator on my phone called Eliquid recipe Lite. Got it from either the Play Store or Amazon. Free. I don't like it as much as ejuicemeup on my laptop, but it can get the job done. I know there are others too.
I really do need to learn to use one of those ejuicemeup thingies. It might save me from so many surprises. But, my accidents have helped me lower my nic level. So, maybe not.
Yepper on the creamy custardy flavors.
Yep I plan on getting 1 more liter of nic soon. That should last me for 15 years or so at my consumption rate.
I will likely get 2 more mods. Perhaps another Kanger subox mini and another VTC mini. I have pairs of all my other mods. Perhaps I can get them to reproduce?
Good luck with that.
 

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As long as you don't house them in the freezer. Perhaps a dark cupboard?

My understanding is that fruit flavors blend more quickly. Start simple and work your way up. We talked one porcher into DIY and really didn't see him again after that. He quickly became sort of a master mixer. Mech? He was from Medford. Bummed he is gone but did pass on a few good recipes before he vanished. Think his real name was Mike. Miss seeing him around. :(

You are better off buying them separately. VG can be had at Wal-Mart, among other (better) places. PG is used for cows with postpartum depression, essentially. Also used in things like soap making. Flavoring has been around forever, just be sure you know what is safe, oil based ones are NOT. Nic will be the crunch. Nic is the one thing we encourage people to buy. Also backup gear. As written, the FDA can ban/restrict things 30 days after the deeming go into effect. Then again, it could drag on for years, but, then again, the bans may stay in place until it's settled as they did last time. How much of a betting man are you? I think everybody here is not taking that bet and stocking up. Please, just buy the nic and work up the courage to DIY at a later date. Everybody here is more than willing (think bulls charging the gates) to help.
Banana takes a while to blend/steep for best flavor. The blueberry is pretty much shake and vape.
 

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I'm just happy I vape and no longer smoke. :)

I second that...

Another thing to consider with DIY. A 30ml bottle of retail juice can cost $10 - $30 online. A 30ml bottle of DIY < $1... Startup cost can be a little high, but they do not have to be if you start with just the basics and go from there. Now if you like to only vape the exotic juices they may be a little hard to duplicate and a little more expensive, but no where near retail prices...
 

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This is where I get uneasy I guess. I'd like to get the pre mixed nic juice, but I vape 65/35 pg/vg for the TH because my nic level is 3mg. Guess I would have to add in some pg.

DO get your nic in PG. It keeps better long term. And simplifies mixing to your preferred ratio, since it becomes only a part of your total PG, and you don't have to add it to both the PG and VG. :)
 

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DO get your nic in PG. It keeps better long term. And simplifies mixing to your preferred ratio, since it becomes only a part of your total PG, and you don't have to add it to both the PG and VG. :)
So you mix the nic & pg all at once?
 

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So you mix the nic & pg all at once?
A lot of DIY people mix large quantities of pg/vg/nic, and later add flavoring to smaller quantities. This also gives you unflavored for priming wicks, and an occasional topper with unflavored in order to flush out coil- and wick-crudding mixes.
 

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DIY, my next thing to try. I have a fear of making my own though, not sure why.:?:
many of us did......much of this for me came from reading the DIY threads. They make it seem like it has to be soooooooo precise, and you need a hazmat suit for 100mg nic etc. I wish I'd realized years earlier how simple it can be.

I worry about getting flavors and not realizing they need sweeteners. What I need is a "E-Liquid for dummies" book. FYI that is a hint for all you DIY ers to make one. Lol
Most flavorings don't need sweetners these days, but I bought a bottle of sucralose, or you can get a bottle of cotton candy flavoring, that's really just sweetner in case you mix something that isn't sweet enough.

Ya I have looked around in there. I think it scared me more. Lol I wish I could remember the site that had the pg/VG already mixed 50/50. I looked for that app yall mentioned but seems android does not have it.
As legs said, my freedom smokes has the nic already mixed in whatever pg/vg formula you want, but as mentioned, I'd really avoid that and get nic separate. It'll be much cheaper, and it's not a big deal at all. I do mix in the kitchen so I can rinse my hands if I spill any on me, but the way I do it, it would be really difficult to spill it. 100mg nic is toxic if you drink it, and can be toxic to pets. But I got stupid and put a syringe in my mouth that I'd pulled up some 100mg nic with, I put the plunger part in my mouth, cuz I didn't have anywhere to lay it down.......immediately realized it, cuz of the taste, took it outta my mouth, rinsed my mouth out, and I was fine, no nic sickness or anything, so it's not gonna kill ya if you get some on ya. The FDA will end up making nic impossible to get, or at such a high cost that it's going to stop a lot of folks from vaping. I have very limited resources, but that is my biggest thing is to get about 7 or 8 liters socked away in the freezer. So no one can stop me from vaping.

So you mix the nic & pg all at once?
A liter of 100 mg nic is basically 10% nic. (Ithink) The rest of the liter is either vg, pg, or a mix of the two. if you decide to get nic and pg and vg and mix it yourself, definitely get the liters of nic in all pg, as it mixes best and stores best in pg.

With my reos and being able to build coils, and make my own juice, I went 5 months where I had no money but I didn't have to buy anything at all for vaping.

I would definitely suggest trying concentrated flavors rather than TFA. With TFA you will end up around 20% at least with flavoring. Flavour Art, Capella Drops, Vaping Zone, and some others are highly concentrated, so you can get your flavoring down to around 5% or less. We really don't know what vaping the flavors does, so I prefer to have less in there myself even if it is concentrated. Plus, since I mix my base a 1/2 liter at a time, it doesn't skew my end result by much. It's still pretty close to 70 pg and 24mg nic after I add my flavors. I vape mostly fruity stuff and creamy stuff.
 

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oh and I forgot to say that ejuicemeup is only for pc's and mostly windows. some that run linux were able to get it working, and some weren't. But there are a few decent apps for android phones, Clnire mentioned one, and I'm sure others with phones will chime in for what they use. They seem complicated at first, but like I said, we can easily talk you through it in the google hangout, or on the phone if you don't have a google account
 

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I went 5 months where I had no money but I didn't have to buy anything at all for vaping.
I've been getting temp gigs since I relocated, so this is exactly how I want to be prepped.

Who are some recommended suppliers?
 

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So you mix the nic & pg all at once?

Like Deb and others, I mix a "base" and flavor from that. MY base, since I like about 18 mg nic and about 70/30 PG/VG, is mixed at 20 mg nic and 65/35 PG/VG. All the flavorings I get are PG based, so they slightly dilute the nic level and raise the PG level. Is it precise? Nope, but close enough to keep me happy.
 
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