Older Folks and Vaping Front Porch - Part Four

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Well that's nice to hear. In your other comment, were you saying that you don't think Indiana's laws will be tested in court? Last I heard they were preparing for a court battle after it went into effect.

Actually yes, as reported here...Indiana files suit | E-Cigarette Forum. That would be hopefully where we don't get to. Requires even more $/participation. My thinking is the challenges have to come earlier in the process (and of the process) as all attention is on extending statutory authority and not the constitutional premises (purpose, intent). We need direction from advocacy on timing and resources so we may respond. Petitions are great but we're gonna need some more formidable pressure. We've got smoke-free up the ying-yang with our tax $ subsidizing intra gov tobacco (now vaping) control entities giving campaign contributions…and its all part of gov's operation! They've made the jump and mostly without viable lawful authority. Most don't see its a circular dialog and we're (the public) really not part of it. We might not be able to tear at the fed wall but we can try locally. Rights and definitions often better articulated. At least to attempt to preserve the individual and commercial right in as many states as possible. Then to as great a degree go on our merry way and dis them. In other words, if we cut the cash flow we bring them back to the table earnestly. Then whatever reg may ensue stands a better chance of being constructive. Not a mandate. But we actually need more help from the advocate/activist actors getting us involved and focused on target. Or, we will be blindsided. vape biz needs to be on point protecting their clients' interests there. If you want somethin', you gotta ask for it. And as JT (Vapestars) said down here in FL it's not a lame you can vape in your vape shop consolation prize.

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Mega Orchid works! Tall M-tank on the bottom, piece of aquarium tubing on top of the chimney, oring on top of that, clear tank section and metal tank section on top of m-tank. Tighten it all using screwdriver to hold the tubing in place, and fill with at least nine ml of juice. :cool:
 

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Mega Orchid works! Tall M-tank on the bottom, piece of aquarium tubing on top of the chimney, oring on top of that, clear tank section and metal tank section on top of m-tank. Tighten it all using screwdriver to hold the tubing in place, and fill with at least nine ml of juice. :cool:
Definitely need a picture of THAT!
 

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Well yeah, that's generally the reaction by public and advocacy groups. Seen it all my life. We try to avoid adjudication. But if the favorable quorum can't be found in the legislature we'll have to find it in the courtroom. Vape community's going to have to be watchful and all of us try to sort out where the important battles are and join 'em. Didn't think it would come here to FL but I'm setting time aside for this as it don't smell right. So I'm with you on the blindside impression. Folks need to leave their political affiliations at the door on vaping. Parties take turns being on the wrong side of things when it comes to the public. We shouldn't lose out because of that. Case in point, the "shall" or "may" question regarding public rec's access in FL's "sunshine" law. I'm for preservation of public right. You see [political] parties on both sides of similar questions all over the country. We don't need that kind of no sense. So in that context in states without the means for attorney's to recover costs to file access suits, it's all over for them if they get code like Indiana. Attorney's won't step up to help and the public as a stakeholder is outta luck. You have to fight the battles when they can be won. Watch FL please folks. This is an opportunity on various levels.

Good luck.

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p.s. Had to add this…vaping really is a human rights issue.
Welcome, Mac! Thanks for coming in & filling in some blanks for us! You are right. We have power in numbers. But wr have to speak in a way that can't be ignored. And it's a place where political affiliations need to fall away. But we do need to know who, in our gov't is following this agenda. Every name needs to br exposed & confronted. You called it correctly, it's a human rights issue.

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Mega Orchid works! Tall M-tank on the bottom, piece of aquarium tubing on top of the chimney, oring on top of that, clear tank section and metal tank section on top of m-tank. Tighten it all using screwdriver to hold the tubing in place, and fill with at least nine ml of juice. :cool:
Pics?

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Welcome, Mac! Thanks for coming in & filling in some blanks for us! You are right. We have power in numbers. But wr have to speak in a way that can't be ignored. And it's a place where political affiliations need to fall away. But we do need to know who, in our gov't is following this agenda. Every name needs to br exposed & confronted. You called it correctly, it's a human rights issue.

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I don't have any political affiliations. I don't like any of them.
I only follow my own nose.
 

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What possessed you to try this? Need or curiosity? Do you plan on actually using it? At home or out?
Need. I had the idea for some weeks, but really never felt that it was important to try. I have a sore throat, and everything else irritates it right now, so, as much as I reject the concept of ADV, it is what it is. Definitely not for out and about. Can you transfer the picture to the board? Kenna says she is interested, but I don't have that capability.
 

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Just got a kamry epipe from vapor bank. Really cool. But I'm not really seeing any battery vents. Kinda leery over that. Couple reeeeaaly tiny holes by the connection but I mean reeeallllly tiny.
 

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Just got a kamry epipe from vapor bank. Really cool. But I'm not really seeing any battery vents. Kinda leery over that. Couple reeeeaaly tiny holes by the connection but I mean reeeallllly tiny.
It vents up thru the atty so you know from the taste if it is venting?
 

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Need. I had the idea for some weeks, but really never felt that it was important to try. I have a sore throat, and everything else irritates it right now, so, as much as I reject the concept of ADV, it is what it is. Definitely not for out and about. Can you transfer the picture to the board? Kenna says she is interested, but I don't have that capability.
Sure can!

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Need. I had the idea for some weeks, but really never felt that it was important to try. I have a sore throat, and everything else irritates it right now, so, as much as I reject the concept of ADV, it is what it is. Definitely not for out and about. Can you transfer the picture to the board? Kenna says she is interested, but I don't have that capability.
I just want to see that monster tank & how you put it together. I can't picture it at all.

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Thanks, DH! I get it now, i just couldn't pic it at all. Thst is a monster!

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I don't think I will want to cobble together any more, but it does what it is meant to do. Once I add clove to the mix, it will be my go-to for sore throat all the time!
 
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