Older Folks and Vaping Front Porch - Part Four

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MikeE3

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I will admit to the occasional cloud chasing with a mech, over cocktails

he, he, ... a friend of yours perhaps. :rolleyes:

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So is that good or bad?
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With the most incredible bipartisan support, SB-6328 passed the Senate with a vote of 37 yeas, 6 nays and passed the House with 74 yeas, 20 nays. Now the bill moves to Governor Inslee's desk and awaits signature for official passage into law.

If signed into law, SB-6328 will focus on youth prevention, best business practices, and statewide uniformity. Stay tuned to Pink Lung Brigade as we closely monitor the bill through signing and will ultimately break down the particulars of the bill once it becomes law.

For more information about SB-6328, please click here!
You can find what the bill contains by following the link.
It's pretty good compared to what they were trying to do.
 

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    IKR! :lol: I bought a FreeMax (I think that's what it is) and a pack of those ceramic coils that Kaz raves about. It's going in either the PIF or Vacopalypse box. Those coils want 35+ watts! Talk about tearing through juice! :facepalm:
    I think they have the wrong ratings on those IMO, I find closer to 24 watts is where I like 'em. I've seen many other people saying they use 'em in the same range. Of course even at that they drink juice faster than most of my gear.
     

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    I think they have the wrong ratings on those IMO, I find closer to 24 watts is where I like 'em. I've seen many other people saying they use 'em in the same range. Of course even at that they drink juice faster than most of my gear.
    Thanks, Kad. I read that the flavor would be muted below 35 watts, so I didn't bother going down the power scale. I'll try it one more time. With a juice that I won't care about wasting :).
     

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    Totally off topic: What do folks who live in Singapore do if they want to vape?

    ETA: Woot! I just turned into a Vaping Master! (Undeservedly so, from a practical perspective, but still Woot!-worthy :))
    I've only been around here for a short time, but I've been thinking of you as Master LittleBird all along. :toast:
     

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    With the most incredible bipartisan support, SB-6328 passed the Senate with a vote of 37 yeas, 6 nays and passed the House with 74 yeas, 20 nays. Now the bill moves to Governor Inslee's desk and awaits signature for official passage into law.

    If signed into law, SB-6328 will focus on youth prevention, best business practices, and statewide uniformity. Stay tuned to Pink Lung Brigade as we closely monitor the bill through signing and will ultimately break down the particulars of the bill once it becomes law.

    For more information about SB-6328, please click here!
    You can find what the bill contains by following the link.
    It's pretty good compared to what they were trying to do.
    Hope they don't sneak in some crap with the "it could have been worse" excuse.
     

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    WOOHOO! I am so proud of my family. Thanks, all.
    What a lovely family! :)
    Amazon sells Helping Hands that a lot of people use. I think Tutu uses one?
    Kinda sorta like that. This is the one I have. http://www.amazon.com/Ivation-Light..._UL160_SR160,160_&refRID=0PVXD8TX4XP1EDNG9MKG
    Of course you did! Krisma, is there a particularly good Aussie's vape forum to which we can direct our newest Porcher?
    Lemmie try... AussieVapers | The original Australian e-cigarette community


    Now I'm not sure I welcomed all the new porchers so, welcome everybody!

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    Yes, it's been worrisome guiding myself. No one but the companies adverts and the videos to decide by. I think I should stick to pre made devices and liquid. It's a bit overwhelming to even think about diy vaping. My painting is fiddly enough. If there was a vaping guru close by ,perhaps. But simple and lots of cool vape, menthol and mint seem the best fit. I need a fill and go model that's a model for dummies. With you guys on the porch and ready to help, I'd go temp control. Haven't tried a box model, but if there is a simple to use box mod with temp control that's not sub ohm, that is what I think I'd like to try. Needs to give a pretty airy vaporous draw. Don't want to have to pull on it hard like this cig alike thing. Some companies have Australian presence minus the nicotine. That's probably where to start. Shipping cost and time I'd much better. More research, ugh. Love to hear about your early attempts and what you used.
    When I started vaping I didn't know about ECF. No B&Ms around here. I really struggled for five months. I did luck into a coffee juice I really liked quite by accident.

    Started with an ego battery and a carto tank. Finally read somewhere I should bump to 24mg and that did the trick to get me off cigarettes for good. Five months after quitting I joined ECF and the learning really took off. I "moved up" to a tank similar to the protank and a spinner (essentially an ego with VV). I'm still happy with that tank and even the Spinners, use them on trips. At home I use a ProVari 2.5 with the same tank.

    If I were to give any advice it would be to concentrate on the quitting and have easy, basic equipment while learning. You always, always, always want to have gear backups in case one breaks, is lost, whatever. The learning curve is insane but you will get it. You have many knowledgeable people here on the porch willing to help. I know you're feeling overwhelmed right now but it won't last long.
    Washington News from NW Vapers

    Good Afternoon!
    It brings me great pleasure to announce the passing of SB6328 which gives the Vaping Industry PRE-EMPTION !!!!!!!

    Here is a quick synopsis of certain parts of the Bill:

    There are NO NEW TAXES on sale of vape products above the sales tax. NONE!The use of vapor products is PERMITTED for TASTING and SAMPLING PURPOSES within the licensed premises of vapor products retailers

    The use of vapor products is prohibited within the following indoor areas:

    Child care facilitiesSchoolsSchool BusesElevators Local governments are granted limited authority to enact ordinances regulating indoor vapor product use in other public places provided such ordinances are otherwise consistent with the provisions of the act

    The use of vapor products is prohibited within the following outdoor areas:

    outdoor areas of property upon which a child care facility is located and which are under the control of the child care facilityreal property upon which a school is located and which is under the control of the schoolplaygrounds

    State Preemption and Vapor Products Regulation by Local Governments.
    Except as otherwise provided under the act, state law preempts vapor product regulatory measures adopted by local governments.

    There is a lot more to this bill that demand your attention, like new licenses being required, some packaging and labeling requirements, restrictions on couponing, etc., and all of this can be found by reviewing the full bill at:

    http://lawfilesext.leg.wa.gov/…/6328-S.E%20HBR%202ND%2016%2…

    WA Vape, it’s lobbyist and a host of others have participated actively for quite a long time, working closely with key leadership in Olympia, in order to get this hallmark bill passed. It’s a great accomplishment for our industry. To those of you who have joined us in this effort, THANK YOU for your support, both financially and otherwise.

    The battle will continue. Once again, we will be networking with legislatures during the summer, fall and winter in preparation for what 2017 will bring us. Our lobbyist is on retainer and WA Vape can certainly use consistent financial support to fund such activity. If you are pleased with the preservation of our rights, our businesses and our industry, please visit our website (shown below) and sign up as a member. Your contributions matter and are greatly appreciated!

    Until next time…..

    Regards,

    Joe Baba

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    Precinct # 10154551 (Pond)

    www.wa-vape.org

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    Excellent news (compared to what they were trying to do)! :thumbs: Sorry they are passing anything but what a relief that must be for everybody in Washington.
    dang hun....hate that this guy is so unscrupulous! You were talking about the original owner and said he was by no means honest, think you meant to say dishonest. Hope he'll be ok with the surgery etc. This certainly explains all the net issues you've been having.
    Um, yes, the original owner was/is a very honest guy. My bad. :oops: Anybody else wish the posts you are replying to were a different font so it's easier to what you are typing vs the other person's text? Sometimes I lose the cursor and then it's :blink:
    I will add that all 3 vape related bills in Utah 'went up in smoke' this year. :)

    Guess no one wanted to vote for a tax increase during an election year ;)
    :thumbs:
    Good news indeed!



    More good news.



    Yuck ... now this wasn't good news to read. Good luck ... hoping something works out for you.
    Internet's been working since late last night so maybe we're on a roll now. :)
     

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    Cause I'm a simpleton!
    Butterflies always tell the truth. This is NOT the truth! :p
    ... You always, always, always want to have gear backups in case one breaks, is lost, whatever.
    Now THIS is the truth!
    Anybody else wish the posts you are replying to were a different font so it's easier to what you are typing vs the other person's text? Sometimes I lose the cursor and then it's :blink:
    :)
    Do I ever! I get lost in the multi-quotes all the time. :cry:
     

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    Hi all, you are so right about getting overwhelmed! I'm going back on to you tube and watching videos tha really break it down into understandable terms. Coils, resistance, ohms, etc. also found a Brisbane based group on Facebook. Trying to establish a conversation and get some guidance from local retailers [online) as well, but so far, they are all suggesting I watch you tube videos. One joy tech model was suggested, but when I watched the video, it assumes I have a knowledge base that I don't . And was full of interchangeable parts and button toggling. So I'm just going to try to get it on YouTube . I think ,for me, I don't want to have a new hobby, it's a necessity to stay off smokes. So I'm going to keep it simple as possible and learn what I need, I hope.
    Beautiful day here today. And our seasons are reversed, so we are finally cooling off in the evenings. Painting season. i will go to any meets I can find, should be able to find someone to enhance the learning process.
     

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    Hope they don't sneak in some crap with the "it could have been worse" excuse.

    As passed by both the Senate and the House, if we have to have a law, it's not too bad. If the Gov signs it, it is the law, so may be harder to generate any "movement" to amend it later, i.e. next session or beyond. Oddly enough in our State, the Gov can sign it, veto it, or do absolutely nothing, in which case after some amount of time, it becomes law. No "pocket veto" here, aka doing nothing so it fails.

    And there are actually some decent things in it - it bars local governments from regulating vaping in open air public spaces, with a few (semi)reasonable exceptions, and specifically allows tasting in vape shops.

    Since both Houses have already passed it, they can't add more stuff as a "gotcha"
     

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    As passed by both the Senate and the House, if we have to have a law, it's not too bad. If the Gov signs it, it is the law, so may be harder to generate any "movement" to amend it later, i.e. next session or beyond. Oddly enough in our State, the Gov can sign it, veto it, or do absolutely nothing, in which case after some amount of time, it becomes law. No "pocket veto" here, aka doing nothing so it fails.

    And there are actually some decent things in it - it bars local governments from regulating vaping in open air public spaces, with a few (semi)reasonable exceptions, and specifically allows tasting in vape shops.

    Since both Houses have already passed it, they can't add more stuff as a "gotcha"
    Good news then!
     

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    I will add that all 3 vape related bills in Utah 'went up in smoke' this year. :)

    Guess no one wanted to vote for a tax increase during an election year ;)
    this is also excellent!!


    Two or three batteries and a 2bay charger would add another $35 to the cost. The benefit, IMO, is that you don't have to wait for the mod to charge; just pop in a new battery :).

    Senate Bill 6328 passed the chamber on a 37-6 vote on Monday, and now heads to the House for consideration. The bill defines vapor products to include vaping devices such as electronic cigarettes, and nicotine solutions that go into the devices.

    Totally off topic: What do folks who live in Singapore do if they want to vape?

    ETA: Woot! I just turned into a Vaping Master! (Undeservedly so, from a practical perspective, but still Woot!-worthy :))
    wahooooo missy master!! Last I heard which was a couple years ago, it wasn't illegal to own vape stuff or even to vape, but it was illegal to import it into the country :facepalm: So if they can sneak it in, they can use it, but most do it just at home, as some cops will hassle them if they vape openly.

    Latest:
    With the most incredible bipartisan support, SB-6328 passed the Senate with a vote of 37 yeas, 6 nays and passed the House with 74 yeas, 20 nays. Now the bill moves to Governor Inslee's desk and awaits signature for official passage into law.
    yay!!! Soooooo much better than what they were trying!

    Anybody else wish the posts you are replying to were a different font so it's easier to what you are typing vs the other person's text? Sometimes I lose the cursor and then it's :blink:
    yes!!! I was reading the modwhomper forum and had many things quoted when my son came home, so closed the laptop.....few hours later, got on....... started reading and quoting here so I had em all mixed up hehehe Having to highlight and cut (which also copies) the modwhomper quotes and paste em in a box over there :facepalm:

    watching videos tha really break it down into understandable terms. Coils, resistance, ohms, etc. also found a Brisbane based group on Facebook. Trying to establish a conversation and get some guidance from local retailers [online) as well, but so far, they are all suggesting I watch you tube videos. One joy tech model was suggested, but when I watched the video, it assumes I have a knowledge base that I don't .
    It is soooo easy to get bogged down in terminology when you're starting. A good thing might be to get a notebook, and write down terms and what they mean. I did this with all the CE clearomizers there were, and when I'd read one, I'd look it up so I knew what it meant. I don't try to understand what resistance is really........cuz I don't need to understand how it works etc. Some folks like to understand it but I have limited brain cells, so that is something I don't need to know. Someone correct me if I'm bein stoopit here, but my understanding is....ohms and resistance are BASICALLY the same thing. To put it very simply, it's the number that's on your coils. 1.8 ohms, 1.2 ohms etc. With a mech, the lower the ohms are the higher your watts will be based on the charge of the battery. That's all I need to know about it for now.

    Watts are the power that the battery sends to the coils, more watts = hotter vape and vice versa. That's about all I need to know bout that. I do know some more about it after nearly 4 years, but starting out with a regulated mod, that's all I really needed to know.

    very well meaning but way smarter than me people would try to explain to me HOW things worked, and my eyes would cross then roll back in my head, and I'd be more confused than ever. But the basics can be very simple and the notebook helped me so much by allowing me to write simple definitions that applied to how I would use it. You may take to all the technical stuff easier than I did, but if not, that's one of the problems with watching a lot of videos.

    If you like a cooler airy vape......go for some type of tank that has good airflow control and that has coils that are probably at least 1.5 or up. With your difficulty in getting things shipping cost etc, it might be a good idea to get something like a subtank that can go higher ohms or sub ohms for later, and is easily rebuildable for later on, but has stock coils you can get for now. Others can verify if the subtank, or another one fills this bill.

    I would absolutely get a mod that has replaceable batteries, as birdy said....good batteries and a good charger takes care of safety. I recommend RTDvapor for batts, but there are some other good ones too. xtar chargers are more often recommended as being better than the nitecore intellichargers. You can get a 4 bay, or just a two bay for now and a 4 bay later....then use the 2 bay as a back up charger.

    For now you have a device that is working, your biggest cost savings will be to make your own juice, and although it sounds complex, it really can be so simple! Essentially if you can bake a cake, you can make juice. You follow a recipe and measure then add ingredients to a bottle. I want to get a scale and start doing it by weight, but for now the only "equipment" that I use are a jar, pyrex measuring cup, 60 ml syringe and some 1 ml syringes. Most of my bottles are ones that I kept from buying juice. I would decide on one thing to focus on.....and learn that. Then move on to another thing. You know how to vape with what you have, you've been doing it for a couple months.

    Maybe section off your notebook with a juice section, mod section, battery section, tank section etc. When you find a nugget, write it down. Or different word processing docs if you prefer using a computer. Maybe that can help simplify things.
     

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    this is also excellent!!







    wahooooo missy master!! Last I heard which was a couple years ago, it wasn't illegal to own vape stuff or even to vape, but it was illegal to import it into the country :facepalm: So if they can sneak it in, they can use it, but most do it just at home, as some cops will hassle them if they vape openly.


    yay!!! Soooooo much better than what they were trying!


    yes!!! I was reading the modwhomper forum and had many things quoted when my son came home, so closed the laptop.....few hours later, got on....... started reading and quoting here so I had em all mixed up hehehe Having to highlight and cut (which also copies) the modwhomper quotes and paste em in a box over there :facepalm:


    It is soooo easy to get bogged down in terminology when you're starting. A good thing might be to get a notebook, and write down terms and what they mean. I did this with all the CE clearomizers there were, and when I'd read one, I'd look it up so I knew what it meant. I don't try to understand what resistance is really........cuz I don't need to understand how it works etc. Some folks like to understand it but I have limited brain cells, so that is something I don't need to know. Someone correct me if I'm bein stoopit here, but my understanding is....ohms and resistance are BASICALLY the same thing. To put it very simply, it's the number that's on your coils. 1.8 ohms, 1.2 ohms etc. With a mech, the lower the ohms are the higher your watts will be based on the charge of the battery. That's all I need to know about it for now.

    Watts are the power that the battery sends to the coils, more watts = hotter vape and vice versa. That's about all I need to know bout that. I do know some more about it after nearly 4 years, but starting out with a regulated mod, that's all I really needed to know.

    very well meaning but way smarter than me people would try to explain to me HOW things worked, and my eyes would cross then roll back in my head, and I'd be more confused than ever. But the basics can be very simple and the notebook helped me so much by allowing me to write simple definitions that applied to how I would use it. You may take to all the technical stuff easier than I did, but if not, that's one of the problems with watching a lot of videos.

    If you like a cooler airy vape......go for some type of tank that has good airflow control and that has coils that are probably at least 1.5 or up. With your difficulty in getting things shipping cost etc, it might be a good idea to get something like a subtank that can go higher ohms or sub ohms for later, and is easily rebuildable for later on, but has stock coils you can get for now. Others can verify if the subtank, or another one fills this bill.

    I would absolutely get a mod that has replaceable batteries, as birdy said....good batteries and a good charger takes care of safety. I recommend RTDvapor for batts, but there are some other good ones too. xtar chargers are more often recommended as being better than the nitecore intellichargers. You can get a 4 bay, or just a two bay for now and a 4 bay later....then use the 2 bay as a back up charger.

    For now you have a device that is working, your biggest cost savings will be to make your own juice, and although it sounds complex, it really can be so simple! Essentially if you can bake a cake, you can make juice. You follow a recipe and measure then add ingredients to a bottle. I want to get a scale and start doing it by weight, but for now the only "equipment" that I use are a jar, pyrex measuring cup, 60 ml syringe and some 1 ml syringes. Most of my bottles are ones that I kept from buying juice. I would decide on one thing to focus on.....and learn that. Then move on to another thing. You know how to vape with what you have, you've been doing it for a couple months.

    Maybe section off your notebook with a juice section, mod section, battery section, tank section etc. When you find a nugget, write it down. Or different word processing docs if you prefer using a computer. Maybe that can help simplify things.
    A note book is a great idea, I think one of my biggest concerns about going vw, is that you have to know what resistance your coils have, and then what wattage your battery puts out, and do calculations to know what to set it to. A lot of them here don't seem to have a wall adapter, they're all usb, which won't work for my set up. Did find one how to that actually told you what to set it to, that's the kind of shortcut I need to know. But if I'm reading everyone right, WV is a good thing to have. I have 2 of these edge things, got 2 more vice models from vaporfi as back ups, but they are also sub ohm with no wattage control, argh. I'm going to make a short list of possibles, ie, have how to videos that explain the use in simple terms. Still hoping to find a shopkeep that will help. I'll get there. My husband pointed out that there's no need to panic, if people were blowing themselves up with these, they'd have been recalled, hahaha. Tried a mystery sample today, butter popcorn ,maybe, gross!
     

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    Hi all, you are so right about getting overwhelmed! I'm going back on to you tube and watching videos tha really break it down into understandable terms. Coils, resistance, ohms, etc. also found a Brisbane based group on Facebook. Trying to establish a conversation and get some guidance from local retailers [online) as well, but so far, they are all suggesting I watch you tube videos. One joy tech model was suggested, but when I watched the video, it assumes I have a knowledge base that I don't . And was full of interchangeable parts and button toggling. So I'm just going to try to get it on YouTube . I think ,for me, I don't want to have a new hobby, it's a necessity to stay off smokes. So I'm going to keep it simple as possible and learn what I need, I hope.
    Beautiful day here today. And our seasons are reversed, so we are finally cooling off in the evenings. Painting season. i will go to any meets I can find, should be able to find someone to enhance the learning process.

    I usually try to post these at least once in a porch, so here you are - for beginners:
    Beginner guide to dripping




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    Fix a Kanger T3




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