Older Folks and Vaping Front Porch - Part Three

[PapaSloth]

On the shipping, you're lucky. But with the USPS you can never tell.
On the peach, any recipes you got that you really like please, pass them on. Reading your previous recipe posts I think our tastes are similar. I need so strength to taste anything.

Hi Matt,

I just made a batch of this, and it came out pretty well. Tastes pretty good without any steeping:

• 3.4ml TFA Juicy Peach
• 0.6ml Ethyl Maltol (5% in VG, so you could sub 0.3ml of 10% in PG, and add an additional 0.3ml of VG or PG)
• 2.1ml TFA Sweet Cream
• 1.5ml TFA Vanilla Swirl (TFA's Vanilla Custard flavor without the custard notes)
• 3.6ml nic, 100mg/ml (I use 100% VG based nic)
• 18.8ml VG

This makes 30ml of 12mg/ml liquid, 23%PG/77%VG, 25% total flavor. It's basically this recipe for Dragonfruit Swirl, but with peach instead of dragonfruit. Let me know what you think, if you decide to try it!

Also, my Orchid is now showing as left Hong Kong for its destination, as of Jan. 7!

 

[horton]

Does anyone by chance have a mnemonic for remembering Ohm's Law? If not, I'm gonna have to get my very first tattoo ... Or ask someone here how many watts a 200 lb man can vape if he's 76" tall and is using a mech at .5 ohms -- pretty much on a weekly basis!

This mnemonic may be a little convoluted but here goes. When I took basic electronics the formula for Ohm's Law was E = I*R. Our instructor suggested the following..... E = Electromotive Force or Voltage, I = Amperage, and R = Resistance. I always pronounced the equation "ear". At least two of the letters are right and if you can remember the "ear" thing, then subbing the "I" for the "a" you have your basic starting point. Then one has to start remembering algebra.......

 

[DancingHeretik]

My original concern (re: Ohm's Law) was to make sure whatever I was using could handle the amperage of the dual-coils I was using when I started using EMDCCs and DC carto-tanks. Back then, amp limits were a major concern. So, I learned the formula as I = V/R (amperage = voltage/resistance).

Then, to get Watts, just change the V to V squared.

A 1.5 ohm dual-coil at 3.7 volts would put most devices back then right at their 2.5 amp limit.

 

[horton]

Just happened to think of this link: Steam Engine | free vaping calculators I'd think it would answer any questions about Ohm's law and many other coil / amperage / wattage related questions. I find it very handy for "what if" kinda questions when making coils -- you can change the variables quite easily and quickly see the differences.....

 

[3mg Meniere]

Never fussed with it. Started with coils between 2.2 and 2.5 on fixed v. Switched to spinners, then to Vamo. Now 1.5 is the lowest I will go. I let my choice of hardware figure it out for me. My brain can cope with the math of building coils and mixing juice. I refuse to challenge it with Ohm's law.

 

[horton]

Never fussed with it. Started with coils between 2.2 and 2.5 on fixed v. Switched to spinners, then to Vamo. Now 1.5 is the lowest I will go. I let my choice of hardware figure it out for me. My brain can cope with the math of building coils and mixing juice. I refuse to challenge it with Ohm's law.

As long as we all vape safe that's what is important. What worries me are the teenagers (primarily) I've seen and heard in vape shops who have no idea what Ohm's law is. They tend to jump in with both feet simply wanting the biggest, baddest clouds possible and bragging rights for the lowest ohm coils..... Just my observations and not an indictment of sub-ohm vaping.

 

[DavidOck]

I've always been told they should be a married pair purchased together and charged together. I haven't quite figured out why as long as they are close to the same age, brand, model, capacity, etc. Why you couldn't charge them to the same voltage then marry them. Probably could. I have a dual battery mod coming and I might try it, I really don't think it's that critical.

Sent with no malice and not a whole lot of forethought from my new Galaxy Tab 4. Thanks Santa!

Age and use will affect the actual current (amp) capability of the battery. So even if they charge to the same voltage, one may be "weaker" than the other. Voltage will drop under load, and if they don't drop at the same rate, one will then have a higher voltage and the current balance is thrown off. As the load on them continues through repeated vaping, the balance goes further off.

How far off turns it into a catastrophe? Don't know, and don't particularly want to do the experiment myself

 

[3mg Meniere]

Isn't that the same fussiness that applies to dual coils?

 

[2legsshrt]

Is it true that the Lemo leaks when laid on its side? I read that in one of the blips at the bottom of one of the forums, I think it was the KFL forum. I was thinking of getting a Lemo and a Lemo drop but I don't like leaks. None of the tanks I use leak and I don't want one that does. I also haven't looked into spare parts for them.

 

[DavidOck]

Um, well, similar. The coil with the lower resistance will draw more power than the other, so the heating will be different between them. With parallel coils, the voltage each "sees" is the same, but the current splits. Evenly if they're the same value, un-evenly if not. The further apart they are in value, the greater the difference in the current each uses.

Far enough off, and it's going to vape sort of like a single coil with a hot spot or hot leg, and not be tasty

 

[DavidOck]

Is it true that the Lemo leaks when laid on its side? I read that in one of the blips at the bottom of one of the forums, I think it was the KFL forum. I was thinking of getting a Lemo and a Lemo drop but I don't like leaks. None of the tanks I use leak and I don't want one that does. I also haven't looked into spare parts for them.

No problems at all with leaks on my one Lemo, Legs. Don't normally lay it sideways, but the times I have, not a drop.

I suspect that if someone has reported that, they lost an o-ring somewhere... or some other assembly error.

 

[Kenna]

I am sooo tired of all the new vape experts spring up all over en mass. Where did they all come from, LOL. I guess after smokers we are the new whipping post.
I wish they all would mind their own business. They will never take MY choice to vape, I am willing to limit my flavor choices to only those used in alcoholic beverages. Those flavors don't seem to be attracting kids.

AMEN, Seminole!

 

[Notrub1857]

In my opinion, the jolt of starting to vape instead of to smoke is PLENTY enough of a different experience for anyone. Having a flavor that is at least reminiscent of the tobacco that the person smoked before trying vaping is desirable. I know I wouldn't have even considered a flavor that wasn't tobacco+menthol, having been a Newport addict for so long.

I have to agree with you. The reason the V2 cig-a-likes didn't work for me was the taste. When I got serious about trying again I ordered sample packs from about 15 different places. Most I hated the taste of because they had no taste to me (I didn't no about steeping then). I found a tobacco flavor at a local brick and mortar shop that hit the spot though and made a successful start for me. He has since introduced me to a tobacco hazelnut blend that is pretty much my daily now. Since I learned about steeping my flavor horizons have expanded exponentially. But, the tobacco flavor is what got me off the analogs in the beginning.

 

[3mg Meniere]

A good tobacco is a good switch-off for when cravings hit. Maybe amped up with a bit more nic. I keep one filled all the time.

 

[2legsshrt]

AMEN, Seminole!

But Seminole this is a Free country just kind of expensive. I will give up Bubble gum flavor. I am stocking up. Sort of like a vapor survivalist. What they want to do in this state is criminal. So many people here have quit smoking or drive 40 miles over to the Coure d'Alene Reservation and pay $20 a carton instead of $85 here or have gone too vaping they have to earn there bloated salaries some way. AHA Vaping lets tax the crap out of it. No one will ever notice.

 

[3mg Meniere]

Um, well, similar. The coil with the lower resistance will draw more power than the other, so the heating will be different between them. With parallel coils, the voltage each "sees" is the same, but the current splits. Evenly if they're the same value, un-evenly if not. The further apart they are in value, the greater the difference in the current each uses.

Far enough off, and it's going to vape sort of like a single coil with a hot spot or hot leg, and not be tasty

Even if one is only slightly off, this will result in an eventual burn-out of the hotter coil. One reason why I would rather not fool with them. Single-coil Orchids rock, and the ones with the plastic caps don't make the rig excessively top-heavy.

Cigs at our local tribal smoke-shop are almost as expensive as elsewhere. However, it is a short drive, which makes a difference. Since they offer a discount for members on gas, I would suspect they also have a hefty discount for members on cigs.

 

[DavidOck]

Even if one is only slightly off, this will result in an eventual burn-out of the hotter coil. One reason why I would rather not fool with them. Single-coil Orchids rock, and the ones with the plastic caps don't make the rig excessively top-heavy.

Yup, quite true. But it is possible to get them close enough that the burn-out time difference is negligible.

Was given an Orchid over the holidays (can't decide if it was payback or revenge from my neighbor v-vert...) and popped in duals to get 1.3 on the circuit. Vapes fine, but boy does it go through juice!

 

[Notrub1857]

Welp, you guys were right when I asked about taste on the back porch. I received my MVP20W and Mini Nautilus Monday. They also sent a sample of a juice called Honeydew. I have never been into any of the fruit flavors in juices, though I love the actual fruits themselves. When I vaped the honeydew in the Mini it was a game changer. Guess I will be exploring fruit flavors now, lol.

Oh! The Mini is just what I have been looking for. Without going into a long story it actually gives me taste of things now. The only dry hit I had with it was the first 3 puffs when using it the first time. Did have one accident because I didn't know how all the parts came apart. I tried unscreing it from the MVP holding the glass and it came apart where the glass meets the bottom and juice went every where. Live and learn, lol. I think I will be buying more Minis for all the different juices I cycle through every day now.

 

[2legsshrt]

Say who has the most reasonable bottles like the 100ml glass. Also I remember seeing a site that has spare parts for almost all RTA's. I'm pretty stocked up and since I use real Kayfuns there is a site in Germany that sells every part of the KFL if you should need to replace them. They even have the build deck. Intaste.de

 

[DavidOck]

Good to hear Notrub!

Indeed, lots of flavors to explore. So you really do need lots of toppers. Then lots of mods, so you don't have to keep switching them out. Then lots of batteries, kanthal, wick...

And I think we've all done that trick with the glass. As long as we learn, so we can make a new mistake the next time, it's all good