Older Folks and Vaping Front Porch - Part Three

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She is absolutely beautiful! Safe to assume that you showed her to CH?
Yep. Both her and Spock. All owner handled. Hum, this really belongs on the back porch... but to make this related, she is sure glad I found vaping and gave up those killing things. I smell much better!

EDIT!!! And thank you for the compliment!
 
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'Morning, all! As promised, and undoubtedly much to the chagrin of many, I'm trying to dive a bit deeper into The Vapor Girl's claim of organic, locally-sourced (i.e., US-grown) tobacco, with US-extracted nicotine. I emailed The Vapor Girl (TVG), this morning, and asked whether the tobacco is USDA-certified organic, and extracted domestically. Awaiting a response, and will post when I get one. Still hoping :) Meanwhile, I researched interviews given by the owners. Here's an excerpt from one. She is pretty consistent in all of her interviews.

SPINFUEL: Is your nicotine also American made?

Victoria: Yes, from North Carolina tobacco!

SPINFUEL: Where do you source your ingredients? Locally, online, US only?

Victoria: US only.
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I can't find any reference to a North Carolina-based nicotine extraction operation, except as referenced by TVG. Feels a little like TVG is following the, "It depends on what your definition of 'is' is..." Again, I'm hoping - and inclined towards giving the benefit of the doubt. I did find this: USA Liquid Nicotine This is a fairly new, GA-based company. Their website doesn't say whether they will be exclusively wholesale, retail, or both. Not organic, though ...

This is more than a little irritating!

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I recently started vaping Dec.1/14 and was the self appointed guinea pig bought an Aspire premium kit nauti mini 1000mah cf vv+ love it and so did my main purpose target POPS 40 years and the morning hack/ well lets just say it wasnt coughing anymore DONE and hasnt touched a smoke yet! He absolutely loves it and is so enthusiastic he already got a co-worker to make the switch...what have I done :)
Welcome to the Porches, Shock Collar! Good on you for making the switch & taking others with you! Pull up a rocker, recliner, swing, banana lounger, or whatever makes you comfy!
 

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Post title: How vaping saved my hubbys Word files.

Got your attention? LOL

If it hadn't been for vaping I would never have found ECF. If it wasn't for ECF I would never have heard what could be done to save drowned electronics. If I hadn't found that out his files would be toast and he would be pulling an all nighter tonight.

The scenario. Hubby didn't check his pockets before sticking his pants in the wash pile. I was in a hurry and didn't check. His thumb drive with all his work files did an entire washer run. The rice trick worked. He was able to pull his files off and the silly drive is still kicking.

How is that for a weird twist to what we learn when we become vapers.
That is great! Bringing work files, ugh! Been there, done that, soooo over it! I retired, (unexpectedly) after spending 10 years handling all the credit & collections on all the accounts for a building supply manufacturer. They had 3 locations . Talk about stressful! When there was a hurricane I'd pack up every single credit file & load them into my Suburban & head inland. They finally got everything digitized & stored on offsite servers. That's overdoing the bringing work files home. But at least we'd have been able to keep going even if the buildings got blown away!
 

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That is Tasha, CH Sky Acres USS Stargazer, RA. She is an almost 8 yr old (Feb 4) Belgian Tervuren. She is a sweetheart, very smart, and don't mess with me because she is a Mommy's girl and will bark ferociously at you (from behind me LOL!). I had another, Spock, mega mutli titled CH Maplerun's Trouble with Tribbles, my heart dog, but he passed away at 14 yrs,7 months in December.

You might notice a name theme... live long and prosper, peace and long life.

And may the force be with you... Ooooppps wrong universe. Hello fellow trekkie. Think I misspelled that but, who cares. Talking a little SciFi on the back porch if you'd like to join us, mostly the new shows on TV.

Sent with no malice and not a whole lot of forethought from my new Galaxy Tab 4. Thanks Santa!
 
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I think I'm going to pursue this, in hopes that the claim is an accurate one. I don't know whether the USDA certifies tobacco, or if the organic label vis tobacco is not subject to set standards. I'll try to find out. Assuming there is a way to know how "organic" is defined, and assuming the tobacco meets the standard, it seems to me that the question will be one of standards applied to the extraction process. Does this sound right, or have I missed something? I'm afraid I can be like - well, like this :)
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Not so much concerned with "organic" so much as "country of origin". There is so much bad crap in tobacco that a little pesticide ain't all that.

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Welcome to the Porches, Shock Collar! Good on you for making the switch & taking others with you! Pull up a rocker, recliner, swing, banana lounger, or whatever makes you comfy!

And take off the collar, don't want no twitching unnecessarily.

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Are some not suitable due to oil? I'm not interested in this place, apparently you have to contact them to even find out prices unless I just couldn't find it......but when searching for cheese, i ran across this place. I was intrigued that you can specify, oil or water, kosher, non gmo, non chinese material, several other things under request a sample. Would these be flavorings we could use if we got them in water? Or are these totally different?
http://www.missionflavors.com/flavorlist.aspx#C

I've heard folks talk about weighing, but don't get that unless these scales are far more sensitive than I think. If you add a few mls of a flavor, I suppose I can see it changing the weight, but I don't quite get how that would be as accurate as measuring. Of course I'm thinking in smaller batches, is this more for when making larger batches of a juice you know works? Do you use the kind that you zero out after each ingredient, or just keep adding? That might be preference I suppose. Oh I'm sure I could do it, it isn't really intimidating, just a matter of learning the flavors and how much to use of each one, how strong they are etc. I won't go into why, but unfortunately I cannot do it where I'm living. But yeah, if I could mix and store stuff elsewhere, I would love to experiment with DIY.



congrats on kickin the stinkies.......and for getting some v-verts!! It's great you're helping others. Keep it up! Welcome to the porch




Very kewl Myrany! And jup......I totally agree with tutu!! Welcome to the porch. (unless you've been here before and I just forgot, can't recall, but your name seems familiar)

Some of those little gram scales they sell are accurate to the 3rd decimal so great for a weight based system.

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I recently started vaping Dec.1/14 and was the self appointed guinea pig bought an Aspire premium kit nauti mini 1000mah cf vv+ love it and so did my main purpose target POPS 40 years and the morning hack/ well lets just say it wasnt coughing anymore DONE and hasnt touched a smoke yet! He absolutely loves it and is so enthusiastic he already got a co-worker to make the switch...what have I done :)

Nice - looks like your off to a good start. Welcome to the porch.

Post title: How vaping saved my hubbys Word files.

Got your attention? LOL

If it hadn't been for vaping I would never have found ECF. If it wasn't for ECF I would never have heard what could be done to save drowned electronics. If I hadn't found that out his files would be toast and he would be pulling an all nighter tonight.

The scenario. Hubby didn't check his pockets before sticking his pants in the wash pile. I was in a hurry and didn't check. His thumb drive with all his work files did an entire washer run. The rice trick worked. He was able to pull his files off and the silly drive is still kicking.

How is that for a weird twist to what we learn when we become vapers.

Well we've seen reference to nicotine helping with memory. :laugh:

'Morning, all! As promised, and undoubtedly much to the chagrin of many, I'm trying to dive a bit deeper into The Vapor Girl's claim of organic, locally-sourced (i.e., US-grown) tobacco, with US-extracted nicotine. I emailed The Vapor Girl (TVG), this morning, and asked whether the tobacco is USDA-certified organic, and extracted domestically. Awaiting a response, and will post when I get one. Still hoping :) Meanwhile, I researched interviews given by the owners. Here's an excerpt from one. She is pretty consistent in all of her interviews.

SPINFUEL: Is your nicotine also American made?

Victoria: Yes, from North Carolina tobacco!

SPINFUEL: Where do you source your ingredients? Locally, online, US only?

Victoria: US only.
--------------------------

I can't find any reference to a North Carolina-based nicotine extraction operation, except as referenced by TVG. Feels a little like TVG is following the, "It depends on what your definition of 'is' is..." Again, I'm hoping - and inclined towards giving the benefit of the doubt. I did find this: USA Liquid Nicotine This is a fairly new, GA-based company. Their website doesn't say whether they will be exclusively wholesale, retail, or both. Not organic, though ...

This is more than a little irritating!

Good job Little Bird trying to get the 'facts' of the claims.
 

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Can one buy unflavored "juice" in volume, at varying nic levels? (With pharma grade nic?) The one thing I'm afraid of with DIY is handling nic. I have enough problems without adding that to the equation!

I was scared to death to start as well, but it turns out not to be a big deal. I mix on a paper towel on a tray by the sink just in case I spill something so it will be contained. Never had that happen though. I've gotten nic on my skin and just washed it off right away. No problem. It's good to know the dangers and then just proceed with care. I've found that it's not rocket science and the good people here can answer any questions.

I recently started vaping Dec.1/14 and was the self appointed guinea pig bought an Aspire premium kit nauti mini 1000mah cf vv+ love it and so did my main purpose target POPS 40 years and the morning hack/ well lets just say it wasnt coughing anymore DONE and hasnt touched a smoke yet! He absolutely loves it and is so enthusiastic he already got a co-worker to make the switch...what have I done :)

Hey there! Welcome to the porch! Sounds like you're well on your way and many kudos to you for helping others. There's so many choices when getting into vaping that it's helpful if you have someone to share the experience with. A good vape shop nearby is very helpful too. Isn't it amazing how quickly beneficial changes happen when smoke stops invading the body? It's actually exciting, especially for people who have smoked for many years. Hope you stick around and let us know how it's going. Great group of people here!
 

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With these dna40 temperature mods.
Now what if you know or would you guess the temperature is at vaping, without one of these mods.
I gather it depends on a few things mainly the wattage your using.
I see many people seem to be around 400-450F.
Wonder how long or if its not happening already when people will try and go for higher and higher temperatures or if thats even possible.
Don't know the operations of these devises , if they have a cut off.

Thinking about the istick and people going on about the means output compared to this rms. If Pbusardo didn't mention it would most people even know ?
Read something about the temperature mods not firing if the wick is dry. Is setting a temperature just something that most people previously would not have thought about or known what temperature they were vaping at.
 

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Thanks for the kind words and getting my Dad to kick the sticks is one of my proudest achievements even if it was like giving a baby a pacifier, but I think doing some research and hearing others trial and errors gave me a solid starting point. The passion and enthusiasm is infectious and theres nothing wrong with that if it means saving/changing lives for the better.
 

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With these dna40 temperature mods.
Now what if you know or would you guess the temperature is at vaping, without one of these mods.
I gather it depends on a few things mainly the wattage your using.
I see many people seem to be around 400-450F.
Wonder how long or if its not happening already when people will try and go for higher and higher temperatures or if thats even possible.
Don't know the operations of these devises , if they have a cut off.

Thinking about the istick and people going on about the means output compared to this rms. If Pbusardo didn't mention it would most people even know ?
Read something about the temperature mods not firing if the wick is dry. Is setting a temperature just something that most people previously would not have thought about or known what temperature they were vaping at.

As far as mean vs RMS, yes a lot of folks would know. Set at the same wattage a device measuring mean instead of RMS is going to hit a lot harder. When the VAMO first came out it would drop out of RMS and into Mean without the operator doing anything and people noticed it right away.

Sent with no malice and not a whole lot of forethought from my new Galaxy Tab 4. Thanks Santa!
 

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...what have I done :)

First off, welcome to da front porch! Hope ya enjoy da company and will hang 'round a long while.

As fer your question, there aren't many ways an individual can assist in extending/saving another person's life. Ergo, V-verting a smoker or aiding a vaper is pri¢ele$$!

Ya done great!
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Got your attention? LOL

Every time ya check in!
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I thought I was pretty skeptical until I joined ECF. It's kind of shocking what you learn here. Heck, I didn't even really know what was in cigarettes until I came here, but I thought I knew.

I thought light cigarettes were better for you until I got here. Shows what I knew.

With these dna40 temperature mods.
Now what if you know or would you guess the temperature is at vaping, without one of these mods.
I gather it depends on a few things mainly the wattage your using.
I see many people seem to be around 400-450F.
Wonder how long or if its not happening already when people will try and go for higher and higher temperatures or if thats even possible.
Don't know the operations of these devises , if they have a cut off.

Thinking about the istick and people going on about the means output compared to this rms. If Pbusardo didn't mention it would most people even know ?
Read something about the temperature mods not firing if the wick is dry. Is setting a temperature just something that most people previously would not have thought about or known what temperature they were vaping at.

You want your juice to boil without burning. So, the ideal temperature is probably just over the boiling point of your juice. PG boils at 372F and VG boils at 554F. Water boils at 212F and pure alcohol boils at 173F. A mix of PG and VG, possibly containing a little water or alcohol, will probably boil around 400-450F, so that number looks reasonable to me. The exact temperature depends on what juice you're vaping, and what's been added to it. I don't think you ever want to go above 536F, because that's the temperature at which VG converts to acrolein (bad stuff).

Things start to spontaneously burst into flames in the high 400s and up, so avoid that as well.
 
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This is interesting. Here's a picture of the color that metal glows at different temperatures:

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So, when you dry burn your coils and they hit orange, the coil is probably around 1700F. Of course, your coil never gets that hot when it's wicked and the wick is wet with juice, because all of the heat is removed by the boiling liquid and the vapor.
 
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