Older Folks and Vaping Front Porch - Part Three

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That's what I thought too. But, when I went to pick up some PG, they had gallons of VG sitting right next to the gallons of PG.



ETA: If the PG is about $25, it must have been the VG that was about $35.
Very good to know. I wonder if our local one has it, too.

Greed greed
On the daily show they showed how no representatives from the USA went to that march in France after people were killed , yet nearly all top people from the white house including the president went to Saudi Arabia when a king there died recently.
You have to realize that Barry has Muslim relatives. He practices moderation. Actually a good policy. Radical Muslims are not really Muslims, in his book. Of course, they regard him as an apostate.

I have a spare 120 ml amber bottle that I'll use when I "decant" small quantities of the stored nic juice.
I put mine in 8ml glass bottles, and store it in the freezer. I use one up every time I mix a bottle of unflavored.
 

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When politics goes beyond vaping-related stuff, I think it's a good idea to move it to the Back Porch. I realize that I represent the left-most extreme end of the wide spectrum here, but neither my politics nor the politics of those with mildly, moderately, emphatically or radically different views belong on the Front Porch when there's no relationship to vaping. Attempts to make non-vaping-related politics seem vaping-related are pretty transparent, so please just move it to the Back Porch. Thanks in advance!

I'm currently enjoying a FA mix which originally was 10% total flavoring but which I'm mixing down to 2% in my Nautilus. (1 ml of flavored juice per 4 ml of unflavored nic juice, measurements eyeballed and approximate). The original mix was 4% Mandarin, 3% Coffee Espresso and 3% Butterscotch. (All flavorings from Flavour Art.) The Coffee Espresso flavoring, as I've mentioned previously, is WAY too strong to use at anything approaching the 3% in my original mix.
 
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Good morning, Bells. Third and final update on TVG's claim to have US-made (not "mixed") organic nic. I emailed both TVG and SpinFuel, TVG twice and SpinFuel, once. Neither ever responded. (I was going to say something snarky, but thought better of it :)) I also called TVG; they were unable to provide anything of value. Perhaps they thought I was trolling? I don't know. Anyway, my bubble was burst! I want to be able to trust the vaping community -- that naive thing, again -- but, in this case, clearly I can't. If ever anyone provides the courtesy of a reply, I'll let you know.

Good morning, Porchers!
 

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Good morning, Bells. Third and final update on TVG's claim to have US-made (not "mixed") organic nic. I emailed both TVG and SpinFuel, TVG twice and SpinFuel, once. Neither ever responded. (I was going to say something snarky, but thought better of it :)) I also called TVG; they were unable to provide anything of value. Perhaps they thought I was trolling? I don't know. Anyway, my bubble was burst! I want to be able to trust the vaping community -- that naive thing, again -- but, in this case, clearly I can't. If ever anyone provides the courtesy of a reply, I'll let you know.

Good morning, Porchers!

G'mornin', LB. I likewise never received a response from USA Liquid Nicotine. Obfuscation is the order of the day.
 

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Hi all, just dropping in to say Hi to all and welcome the many new members. I am way back on pg 367 with a slim chance of catching up, but I need to read it all since there is always good info and of course all the good links that get posted.

Shineyitis is alive and well as I have a few new things in the barn and I am still trying to move forward with DIY stuff. I have acquired 3 Lemos (finally got them tuned the way I want them) no leaks ever in any position, lots of build options. A couple of Tobeco V4's all working quite well, no leaks and pretty good flavor monsters, very little machine oil, cleaned up easily, not to tough to build. They look a bit overwhelming when you first take them apart, but you don't have to do that all the time. Also a Tobeco AquaV2 that is a bit more challenging to build (made for duals, but can run in single mode or dripper, also has great flavor. An SX Mini mod that has a small form factor (runs on a single 650 and is the same height as a ProV Mini, a box but not a box)and also works great. More power than I will ever need. See if I can get some pix to come up.......

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I paid $219 for mine last year on Amazon, but they are $450 now.
Is that freezer self-defrosting? I know where to get a similar freezer that's NOT self-defrosting for about the same price you paid last year, but shipping from Chicago is additional. (Free shipping in the Chicago metro area.) The website is abt.com

I bought my new refrigerator/freezer from them. They shipped free, since it was a fairly high-dollar item, and gave me the same discount price that was offered by Home Depot, but Home Depot would have charged me state sales tax.
 

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Hi all, just dropping in to say Hi to all and welcome the many new members. I am way back on pg 367 with a slim chance of catching up, but I need to read it all since there is always good info and of course all the good links that get posted.

Shineyitis is alive and well as I have a few new things in the barn and I am still trying to move forward with DIY stuff. I have acquired 3 Lemos (finally got them tuned the way I want them) no leaks ever in any position, lots of build options. A couple of Tobeco V4's all working quite well, no leaks and pretty good flavor monsters, very little machine oil, cleaned up easily, not to tough to build. They look a bit overwhelming when you first take them apart, but you don't have to do that all the time. Also a Tobeco AquaV2 that is a bit more challenging to build (made for duals, but can run in single mode or dripper, also has great flavor. An SX Mini mod that has a small form factor (runs on a single 650 and is the same height as a ProV Mini, a box but not a box)and also works great. More power than I will ever need. See if I can get some pix to come up.......

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Hi Pepper - so that's where 'ya been' - off collecting new shiny's. :toast:
 

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I hate to say this but, that's an easy choice. Food always comes first.

Sent with no malice and not a whole lot of forethought from my new Galaxy Tab 4. Thanks Santa!

yeah it does, but she didn't say she couldn't.......I could do sketti instead of steak (last steak I had was a free one on Veterans day a few years ago) for some new vape gear! lol

Yeesh I am so out of date the last Databases I ever worked with were MS Acess (the office suite one) and FIleMaker. LOL

I'll make ya feel better.......last and only one I used was Dbase 4 in a college basic computer class in 90 or 91 lol

Well I need my little paw slapped.

I just hit MFS and picked up a SMOK Magneto, 2 VIsion Eternitys and an Aqua clone. Dangit their sales are just too good and the eternitys work on REOs as bottom feeders (and a $5 each are dirt cheap)

have you used these before? Are you sure they can BF's, do you need to mod anything? Don't really like the tinyness of these, but, may grab a couple in prep for a Reo since I missed the 5.00 zeniths at angelcigs. Debating, last I checked FT had zeniths for 10.45 free shipping, so 20.90 for 2. Where angel was 5.00 but they were charging me 6.10 shipping (even tho site says 4.00, they must have been too heavy or something), so 16.10 for 2 not much difference. But......these are something I would use in the meantime, cuz it'll take me awhile to get the Reo, so considering it. Plus, before I get the Reo, I may find another cheapo BF that I like better than the zenith.

On the subject of preparing for the vapeocalypse (which is looking more imminent every day), my collection includes:

....

I wanna have your stash when I grow up! lol
Many, if not most, freeze nic in 'padded' colored glass bottles for long term storage. I like to break down a liter into 250ml bottles. According to Kurt, our resident 'ECF chemist', PG based nic stores better than VG.

I'm sure others will chime in with helpful info..

Just my .02 FRN...

This part is still confusing to me. Is all nic that we buy at say 100mg already in either pg or vg? Or is it just nic, but you CAN buy it in pg or vg if you want to? It seems I see it both ways, but not sure. And yea, I just bookmarked this!! Thanks to whoever told me how to do it the other day. (and I found it again!)

Good morning, Bells. Third and final update on TVG's claim to have US-made (not "mixed") organic nic. I emailed both TVG and SpinFuel, TVG twice and SpinFuel, once. Neither ever responded. (I was going to say something snarky, but thought better of it :)) I also called TVG; they were unable to provide anything of value. Perhaps they thought I was trolling? I don't know. Anyway, my bubble was burst! I want to be able to trust the vaping community -- that naive thing, again -- but, in this case, clearly I can't. If ever anyone provides the courtesy of a reply, I'll let you know.

Good morning, Porchers!

that really stinks hun, but appreciate the update. Wish this would have been a great thing. But I agree, can't trust someone who won't communicate.
 

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yeah it does, but she didn't say she couldn't.......I could do sketti instead of steak (last steak I had was a free one on Veterans day a few years ago) for some new vape gear! lol



I'll make ya feel better.......last and only one I used was Dbase 4 in a college basic computer class in 90 or 91 lol



have you used these before? Are you sure they can BF's, do you need to mod anything? Don't really like the tinyness of these, but, may grab a couple in prep for a Reo since I missed the 5.00 zeniths at angelcigs. Debating, last I checked FT had zeniths for 10.45 free shipping, so 20.90 for 2. Where angel was 5.00 but they were charging me 6.10 shipping (even tho site says 4.00, they must have been too heavy or something), so 16.10 for 2 not much difference. But......these are something I would use in the meantime, cuz it'll take me awhile to get the Reo, so considering it. Plus, before I get the Reo, I may find another cheapo BF that I like better than the zenith.

Yes the Vision Eternity does indeed without question fit and work on my REO Grand. They do indeed work bottom fed. I have one now and have used it that way. I do make my wicks a bit longer for efficiency but it works. They can also be rebuilt see the PBusardo video on the Eternity for how :)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CRAGJwLtcqo

THe 2 I just grabbed were backups for my backups :)
 
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This part is still confusing to me. Is all nic that we buy at say 100mg already in either pg or vg? Or is it just nic, but you CAN buy it in pg or vg if you want to? It seems I see it both ways, but not sure. And yea, I just bookmarked this!! Thanks to whoever told me how to do it the other day. (and I found it again!)

All nic is sold in a base liquid. The base liquid can be PG, VG, or some combination of the two.
 

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All nic is sold in a base liquid. The base liquid can be PG, VG, or some combination of the two.

You actually can get 99.7% pure nic from My Freedom Smokes, but it's extremely dangerous and difficult to work with. The 100mg/ml nic is about 1 part nic to 9 parts something else, which can be either PG, VG, or a mix. I've been ordering my nic in VG, just because I prefer more VG and less PG in my juice. I believe that the PG version keeps better, but if you keep out the light and the air, I think Kurt said that either will store for long periods without much loss of strength. He did say that if you store it in the freezer, always let it come back up to room temperature before opening the bottle. That prevents moisture from condensing, and both moisture and oxygen are bad for the nic.
 

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You actually can get 99.7% pure nic from My Freedom Smokes, but it's extremely dangerous and difficult to work with. The 100mg/ml nic is about 1 part nic to 9 parts something else, which can be either PG, VG, or a mix. I've been ordering my nic in VG, just because I prefer more VG and less PG in my juice. I believe that the PG version keeps better, but if you keep out the light and the air, I think Kurt said that either will store for long periods without much loss of strength. He did say that if you store it in the freezer, always let it come back up to room temperature before opening the bottle. That prevents moisture from condensing, and both moisture and oxygen are bad for the nic.
Papa that was a quote fail I didnt say that :)
 

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Yes the Vision Eternity does indeed without question fit and work on my REO Grand. They do indeed work bottom fed. I have one now and have used it that way. I do make my wicks a bit longer for efficiency but it works. They can also be rebuilt see the PBusardo video on the Eternity for how :)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CRAGJwLtcqo

THe 2 I just grabbed were backups for my backups :)

kewl!! I did watch his vid as soon as I saw your post, before I posted, but forgot to say that. That's how I knew how tiny they are. definitely gotta get me on of them headlamp thingys. I need one anyhow. I got a magnifyer stand thingy with a clamp, but the light is so low at SIL's that ya just can't see. Either that or a batt operated stand up LED torch/flashlight thingies.

Grrrrrrrrrr now why is MFS oos on the aspire bdc coils I need. :(

All nic is sold in a base liquid. The base liquid can be PG, VG, or some combination of the two.

Thanks!

You actually can get 99.7% pure nic from My Freedom Smokes, but it's extremely dangerous and difficult to work with. The 100mg/ml nic is about 1 part nic to 9 parts something else, which can be either PG, VG, or a mix. I've been ordering my nic in VG, just because I prefer more VG and less PG in my juice. I believe that the PG version keeps better, but if you keep out the light and the air, I think Kurt said that either will store for long periods without much loss of strength. He did say that if you store it in the freezer, always let it come back up to room temperature before opening the bottle. That prevents moisture from condensing, and both moisture and oxygen are bad for the nic.

gotchya!! Ok, I think this is what confused me when I've looked at nic at various places. mg or mg/ml and I just didn't notice that distinction. Thanks!
 

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Many, if not most, freeze nic in 'padded' colored glass bottles for long term storage. I like to break down a liter into 250ml bottles. According to Kurt, our resident 'ECF chemist', PG based nic stores better than VG.

I'm sure others will chime in with helpful info..

Just my .02 FRN...

I enclose it in 7 balloons and swallow it then retrieve it later. LOL
 

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yeah it does, but she didn't say she couldn't.......I could do sketti instead of steak (last steak I had was a free one on Veterans day a few years ago) for some new vape gear! lol



I'll make ya feel better.......last and only one I used was Dbase 4 in a college basic computer class in 90 or 91 lol



have you used these before? Are you sure they can BF's, do you need to mod anything? Don't really like the tinyness of these, but, may grab a couple in prep for a Reo since I missed the 5.00 zeniths at angelcigs. Debating, last I checked FT had zeniths for 10.45 free shipping, so 20.90 for 2. Where angel was 5.00 but they were charging me 6.10 shipping (even tho site says 4.00, they must have been too heavy or something), so 16.10 for 2 not much difference. But......these are something I would use in the meantime, cuz it'll take me awhile to get the Reo, so considering it. Plus, before I get the Reo, I may find another cheapo BF that I like better than the zenith.



I wanna have your stash when I grow up! lol


This part is still confusing to me. Is all nic that we buy at say 100mg already in either pg or vg? Or is it just nic, but you CAN buy it in pg or vg if you want to? It seems I see it both ways, but not sure. And yea, I just bookmarked this!! Thanks to whoever told me how to do it the other day. (and I found it again!)



that really stinks hun, but appreciate the update. Wish this would have been a great thing. But I agree, can't trust someone who won't communicate.

I really don't know I have 3 bottles of 100mg in the freezer that is in glass wrapped in bubble wrap in a 50/50 base. Won't need to try to use it for at least a year so I will let you know then.
 
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