Older Folks and Vaping Front Porch - Part Three
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I do the opposite. Since the VG is thicker, I measure it first. That way the PG will 'rinse' the remainder of the VG out of the graduated cylinder. I mix my nic base (nic, PG, and VG) in large quantities. Then all I have to do is mix my base with whatever flavor I want.
When I make the actual flavored juice, I either measure the flavor first and use the nic base to rinse all the flavoring out of the graduated cylinder. Or, I use a syringe to measure the flavoring. I don't need a syringe for my ADV because I make 110 ml at a time.
I always include nic in my mixes because it has a profound effect on the flavoring. There would be no point in mixing without it.
Yours is better, but this is what I use.
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I got this one.....but don't get it. It works great....but had to take screws out to put the batteries in, and the whole end cap piece fell off, had to hold pieces together while I tried to get the screws back in. Amazon.com: Ikea Milk Frother 100.763.20, Silver: Kitchen & Dining
Mine was cheaper than that when I bought it.
to be more specific, and I"ve only done it once, but it works great so far. Use concentrated flavors that I can either just add drops, or use a 1ml syringe no needle for. I used 100 mls of nic and used the calculator to see how much pg and vg to add to make enough nic base to use the whole 100 mls of nic. It was around 500 mls of base.
Put vg into the measuring cup, added the nic, used the milk frother to really mix the vg and nic very very good. with measuring cup, you scrape it all out well with a rubber spatula. pour that into my jar. measured pg in measuring cup and added that to my jar, shook well. Done. Only thing I used syringes for was pulling some up out of the jar to put in a 30 ml bottle to add flavors to that and shake it up. All I really need to figure out now is a better bottle/jar to store it in. I don't like the one I have currently. A squeeze bottle would be perfect, but want to store it in glass rather than plastic. the vaping zone super concentrate flavoring I used was the creme brulee, at 2.5% so it was roughly 1 drop of flavoring per ml. Added a few extra drops to the bottle I sent yiddle cuz I was feelin feisty! hehehe
Yeppers !!! I can't handle too much vg either....even 50/50 settles heavy in my lungs and feels like another bout of pneumonia...
Which brings me to more questions.....I foresee MUCH experimentation in my future. I've been reading tons of recipes, but too many don't state the pg/vg ratio, and with so many people trending towards high vg now....I have to wonder about how accurate the flavor % will be when I mix....
I thought you were just getting started.Sounds like you've got some nice gear. I don't even know what some of that stuff is!
I AM just gett'in started, BUT, I read a Whole Lot. I been on here since the very end of August '14 but didn't join till Jan. of '15. I'm on my Puter 6, 8, even 10 hours a day (I'm disabled due to my Arthritis so have not much else to keep me occupied and Off the streets). I Love researching different topics, always have, just that now with all the med's I'm on my retention sucks. I've always been into electronics, since I was about 12 years old, so Ohms Law is an old friend so to speak. I'm still trying to get ya'll's terminology down though. If I don't know what someone is talkin' about, I do some research.
I'm still researching the DIY aspect of this, it's now at the Hassle vs Cost stage, I'm finding myself making mistakes now that I never used to make with different things (again the med's rear their Ugly head). Oh, I Love your choice in Tunes, 
You a Pink Floyd Fan by chance ?? Very distinctive sound !! I might be an Old Fart, but I'm Diversified. 
I got this one.....but don't get it. It works great....but had to take screws out to put the batteries in, and the whole end cap piece fell off, had to hold pieces together while I tried to get the screws back in. Amazon.com: Ikea Milk Frother 100.763.20, Silver: Kitchen & Dining
Mine was cheaper than that when I bought it.
to be more specific, and I"ve only done it once, but it works great so far. Use concentrated flavors that I can either just add drops, or use a 1ml syringe no needle for. I used 100 mls of nic and used the calculator to see how much pg and vg to add to make enough nic base to use the whole 100 mls of nic. It was around 500 mls of base.
Put vg into the measuring cup, added the nic, used the milk frother to really mix the vg and nic very very good. with measuring cup, you scrape it all out well with a rubber spatula. pour that into my jar. measured pg in measuring cup and added that to my jar, shook well. Done. Only thing I used syringes for was pulling some up out of the jar to put in a 30 ml bottle to add flavors to that and shake it up. All I really need to figure out now is a better bottle/jar to store it in. I don't like the one I have currently. A squeeze bottle would be perfect, but want to store it in glass rather than plastic. the vaping zone super concentrate flavoring I used was the creme brulee, at 2.5% so it was roughly 1 drop of flavoring per ml. Added a few extra drops to the bottle I sent yiddle cuz I was feelin feisty! hehehe
You need Magnets on your battery door Deb ??
since you have the time... I can challenge you to make one of theseI AM just gett'in started, BUT, I read a Whole Lot. I been on here since the very end of August '14 but didn't join till Jan. of '15. I'm on my Puter 6, 8, even 10 hours a day (I'm disabled due to my Arthritis so have not much else to keep me occupied and Off the streets). I Love researching different topics, always have, just that now with all the med's I'm on my retention sucks. I've always been into electronics, since I was about 12 years old, so Ohms Law is an old friend so to speak. I'm still trying to get ya'll's terminology down though. If I don't know what someone is talkin' about, I do some research.
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and oh, yeah... this is the front porch, so...
today's activities involve making more "base" for my e-liquid. I like 50/50, but don't like mixing the PG and VG when I DIY, so...
I mix my PG and VG into a salad dressing carafe and then add that to my flavors and nic at the time of mixing.
lol wish that would help......it's gotta be screwed down to stay put. Dunno why they made a battery door that doesn't just open with a latch like most of em. But it did work well to mix the nix with the vg, and luckily don't have to change batts very often.You need Magnets on your battery door Deb ??
I was all 50/50 but am moving more towards 60% VG.Yeppers !!! I can't handle too much vg either....even 50/50 settles heavy in my lungs and feels like another bout of pneumonia...
Yeppers !!! I can't handle too much vg either....even 50/50 settles heavy in my lungs and feels like another bout of pneumonia...
I'm just a beginner juice mixer, but it seems to me that if the final amount is the same, despite the PG/VG ratio, the flavor % should be the same for the test batch. But the PG/VG ratio will affect the flavor, since the PG "carries" that better. So the second batch may improve at slightly less % flavoring? I've not made enough to know for sure on that... and probably won't, since I don't see myself changing from my usual 70/30 PG/VG!
But even someone else's recipe might need some adjustment to fit my tastes. I've been mixing small (10 ml) batches of other's recipes, and then if I like it, making adjustments on the second batch to bring it closer to my preferences.
I AM just gett'in started, BUT, I read a Whole Lot. I been on here since the very end of August '14 but didn't join till Jan. of '15. I'm on my Puter 6, 8, even 10 hours a day (I'm disabled due to my Arthritis so have not much else to keep me occupied and Off the streets). I Love researching different topics, always have, just that now with all the med's I'm on my retention sucks. I've always been into electronics, since I was about 12 years old, so Ohms Law is an old friend so to speak. I'm still trying to get ya'll's terminology down though. If I don't know what someone is talkin' about, I do some research.
Well, heck, 52, it's easy to start your research HERE
Hassle vs. cost? Of course, only you can answer that for you, but it's not hard to mix. Biggest hassle is getting everything out, putting it away, and cleaning up. And once you've found a mix or three you really like, by mixing large quantities you don't have to do that very often.
I made myself a magnetic mixer with help from Youtube and it works great. I just wish the computer fan has more knards to spin a bit faster but your mixing a much thicker liquid than the water they show a nice vortex in videos.
Am I wrong in believing that you can over aerate your juice with something like a frother and prematurely oxidize the nic and darken your juice. I read that somewhere and it made sense to me
Am I wrong in believing that you can over aerate your juice with something like a frother and prematurely oxidize the nic and darken your juice. I read that somewhere and it made sense to me
I'll have to let someone with more mixing experience address that, Alter, but a DIY magnetic mixer sounds like fun! Link?
Just search DIY Magnetic Mixer in youtube and it shows you all sorts of variations. I have had a black plastic DIY box kicking around for years, bought a cheap variable voltage power adapter from the dollar store, old hardrive magnet and a computer fan. I did buy a 5K potentiometer from a Chinese site in ebay but its crap and doesn't work properly so one day going to spend the proper bucks and get a nice one. Grand total the mixer cost me inside 20 bucks and no carpel tunnel from shaking juices. I also bought 25 and 50 ml beakers, glass syringes and magnetic stirbars out of ebay but dollar stores have all kinds of 50-100+ml wiretop glassware bottles that mix and store juices just dandy. I only mix 50mls of any juice so I don't need larger glassware.
Yours is better, but this is what I use.
What I really like 'bout my model is da straight narrow attachment which is split at da end and does a great job on agitation/aerating your mix in 30ml and larger bottles. Actually, it would fit in da throat of 15ml bottle, but that fer moi, is overkill.
I've used it fer near four years now with da original battery. The switch is also da batt compartment slide door.
....I have to wonder about how accurate the flavor % will be when I mix....
If ya increase your PG level, I'd say, if anything, da tasted flav would increase a tad.
How 'bout dropping your VG level by 20% and note da flav diff. Then adjust your recipe accordingly.
Using da aforementioned mixers, it only take a few seconds to insure adequate mixing. No need fer frothing.
BTW, welcome to da front porch! Pull up a sit down and stay a spell. Great folk in dese parts! Oh yeah, we also have a BACK PORCH where we cuss and discuss all things besides vaping. We try to keep da front porch vaping related.
LOL.....I vape 70pg/30vg.....my concern is recipes posted that may be high vg and no way to know.....I'm assuming
that I will need to decrease my flavor % from what they post in addition to any other tweaks I may need to do to suit my taste......hence.....much experimentation in my future
Yiddle, there are a couple of recipes I have my eye on. But, the creator uses 30% flavoring!
I plan on using a 5 ml bottle to mix the flavoring in the proper ratio (to other flavorings, NOT to final product). That way I can just add a little at a time until I get the proper percentage flavoring for my taste.
I plan on using a 5 ml bottle to mix the flavoring in the proper ratio (to other flavorings, NOT to final product). That way I can just add a little at a time until I get the proper percentage flavoring for my taste.
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