relink the book marks 'does not compute' for me. Am I expected to bring up literally 1000's of bookmarked posts, then rebook mark them. That ain't gonna happen. Least not by me.
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relink the book marks 'does not compute' for me. Am I expected to bring up literally 1000's of bookmarked posts, then rebook mark them. That ain't gonna happen. Least not by me.
Here's the word from Retired1:
"Bookmarks should work, although I'd recommend you replace them with the new URLs once things are back up and running. As for setting page lengths, no, this will not be possible due to the way the software deals with pagination.
Edited to add - The posts per page is 20 with the new software."
That's all I know, guess we'll have to wait and see...
"Bookmarks should work, although I'd recommend you replace them with the new URLs once things are back up and running. As for setting page lengths, no, this will not be possible due to the way the software deals with pagination.
Edited to add - The posts per page is 20 with the new software."
That's all I know, guess we'll have to wait and see...
something you can all do... take a look at the list of signatures. I'm number 171... if you don't have a number, maybe you should get one...
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Maybe I'm just being dense, and maybe it'll make sense afterwards, but that's what I don't get. If they do end up working and transferring, why would we need to replace them, and if they don't transfer cuz of some glitch......how would we replace em. lol I'd have no idea what all I lost.
something you can all do... take a look at the list of signatures. I'm number 171... if you don't have a number, maybe you should get one...
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Nice, it's gettin up there......was in the three thousands (upper I think) when I signed it
Jup, I didn't really understand about the bookmarks......Default # of pages is 10, mine is set to 40, so not sure what that's going to do to various posts here that I have bookmarked. Sounded like he said they'll transfer but you have to relink them??
Deb, the following is not anything I've read by Roly or other admins, just what I ~think~ will happen:
You, like me, currently have posts per page set to 40. Let's say you're reading a long thread and find a post you want to be able to go back to, so you use your browser menus to bookmark that page. After the transition to the new software, posts per page will be 20, so the post you wanted to get back to is now on a different page, but your bookmark still takes you to the same page number as before.
Example:
If I want to later go back to David's post #7996 above, it's on page 200 (for me) right now, but it will be on page 400 after the forum move. Using my browser menu to bookmark page 200, it later will take me to posts 3881-4000 (20 x 200) and not posts 7961-8000 (40 x 200).
Whew!... I don't think I did a very good job of clarifying anything, need more coffee, it's early.
Maybe someone else will come along and do a better job of explaining?
Edit: (I had to go try this to see if it would work, it did.)
On the other hand... instead of using your browser menus to "bookmark this page", if you point to the post# in the upper right corner of the post you want to find later, right click, and choose "bookmark this link" (Firefox), then the bookmark will later take you to the correct post#, not the (incorrect) page#.
(still confusing ain't it?... still need. more. coffee.)
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Truth be told - everyone will all find out tomorrow - I'm going fishing this weekend so I will find out Sunday night or Monday morning...
Now, they are talking maybe 48 hours... 12 hours just to transfer the data... Retird1 promised more updates as they know more...
Yup, was around 3400 when I did, from the first mention here. MORE!!
And Uman, I think, has it right on the links. If you've linked to a post number, should be fine. If linked to a page, well, pagination may be different...
But the bad news is this from Retired1 this AM:
"As we get closer to the actual event, we're seeing that 24 hours may be an optimistic, if not unreasonable guestimate. Better plan on 48 hours. The database import alone is going to take around 12 hours (if nothing goes wrong with it).
We'll be making an announcement when we have a better idea with links to keep tabs on the progress. "
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...330-xen-foro-tips-tricks-15.html#post15633631
Latest update - likely not this weekend, but early next week...
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...330-xen-foro-tips-tricks-16.html#post15633917
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...330-xen-foro-tips-tricks-16.html#post15633917
Ive got vaping to keep up with and around thirty plus tv shows and some other things.
This software forum change thingy , can take care of its self .
This software forum change thingy , can take care of its self .
something you can all do... take a look at the list of signatures. I'm number 171... if you don't have a number, maybe you should get one...
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If I remember correctly, there are about 1,000 more signers now than when I did it. Not a whole lot signing today though.
I give up on the switch. Whatever happens, happens. Can't keep track of the bulk of my bookmarks now so if I lose them all it might even be for the best.On the optimistic side, maybe the search function will actually work.
Howdy good Folks,
I'd like to ask anyone who will to proofread the following letter I plan to submit to the news director of one of my local newscasts.
I am open to any and all suggestions, additions, or corrections... especially of facts etc.
Mr. X,
A few minutes ago I watched yet another negative news story about e-cigarettes on your 6pm news show.
I’d like to suggest that if you’re going to run stories about things that pertain to human health, have your reporters do some real research.
Instead of parroting junk science studies that you get “off the wire” and showing close-ups of women’s’ lips while they’re puffing on an ecig, use internet search engines; read internet forums related to e-cigarettes; or even interview real, local people who are using e-cigarettes to successfully quit smoking tobacco cigarettes. I did, my wife did, and I know of many others who have also quit smoking – by using e-cigarettes as a substitute. Statistically, the success rate using e-cigarettes is much higher than nicotine patches, gum, or drugs like Chantix.
The news article on your program quoted a study which said that 60% of people who tried to quit smoking using e-cigarettes failed. That is patently false and can be proven so by empirical evidence… IF one does the research.
On April 27th, 2013, I got my first e-cigarette and have not bought a pack of tobacco cigarettes since. Yes, in the first 2-3 months, I had moments of weakness and “bummed” a cigarette from a smoker friend… but soon the craving for even the occasional cigarette subsided and eventually went away. A few months later, my wife decided to try e-cigs and still has the same unopened pack of tobacco cigarettes she had bought that day -- she has not smoked even one since.
Are e-cigarettes 100% safe? Probably not. Breathing anything other than clean, pure air is not “good” for you, but anyone who lives in a city or near a busy highway is not breathing clean, pure air all the time either. I see e-cigarettes as “harm reduction”, as opposed to inhaling the thousands of chemicals in tobacco cigarettes.
I have thoroughly researched both the hardware and the e-liquid used in e-cigarettes, mix my own e-liquid with FDA approved-for-human consumption ingredients, USP certified, and I know exactly what it is I’m inhaling… something I never could say when smoking chemically engineered tobacco.
You want to do your viewers a real service? Try encouraging them to quit smoking by running some positive stories about e-cigarettes.
Thank you,
My Name
City, State
I'd like to ask anyone who will to proofread the following letter I plan to submit to the news director of one of my local newscasts.
I am open to any and all suggestions, additions, or corrections... especially of facts etc.
Mr. X,
A few minutes ago I watched yet another negative news story about e-cigarettes on your 6pm news show.
I’d like to suggest that if you’re going to run stories about things that pertain to human health, have your reporters do some real research.
Instead of parroting junk science studies that you get “off the wire” and showing close-ups of women’s’ lips while they’re puffing on an ecig, use internet search engines; read internet forums related to e-cigarettes; or even interview real, local people who are using e-cigarettes to successfully quit smoking tobacco cigarettes. I did, my wife did, and I know of many others who have also quit smoking – by using e-cigarettes as a substitute. Statistically, the success rate using e-cigarettes is much higher than nicotine patches, gum, or drugs like Chantix.
The news article on your program quoted a study which said that 60% of people who tried to quit smoking using e-cigarettes failed. That is patently false and can be proven so by empirical evidence… IF one does the research.
On April 27th, 2013, I got my first e-cigarette and have not bought a pack of tobacco cigarettes since. Yes, in the first 2-3 months, I had moments of weakness and “bummed” a cigarette from a smoker friend… but soon the craving for even the occasional cigarette subsided and eventually went away. A few months later, my wife decided to try e-cigs and still has the same unopened pack of tobacco cigarettes she had bought that day -- she has not smoked even one since.
Are e-cigarettes 100% safe? Probably not. Breathing anything other than clean, pure air is not “good” for you, but anyone who lives in a city or near a busy highway is not breathing clean, pure air all the time either. I see e-cigarettes as “harm reduction”, as opposed to inhaling the thousands of chemicals in tobacco cigarettes.
I have thoroughly researched both the hardware and the e-liquid used in e-cigarettes, mix my own e-liquid with FDA approved-for-human consumption ingredients, USP certified, and I know exactly what it is I’m inhaling… something I never could say when smoking chemically engineered tobacco.
You want to do your viewers a real service? Try encouraging them to quit smoking by running some positive stories about e-cigarettes.
Thank you,
My Name
City, State
Having done software rollouts before I kind of thought 24 hours sounded pretty optimistic for something as big as ECF is.
Umanbean, that looks like a very good letter. I've gotten kind of burned out after this years North Dakota legislation. We did avoid high taxes, and the bill to keep vaping away from minors did specify that e-cigs are not tobacco products, but we did still end up with draconian age verification requirements on internet purchases. The poor retailers are expected to do full ID runs on every sale, and they're requiring signature verification on delivery. Though the funny thing on that is that I just turned 64, but the new person who picks up my mail up for me is maybe 21, but looks about 14. But it being a very small town I'm guessing that it won't be a problem for her to sign for me.
Anyhow, what I started out saying was that despite being burned out on my letter writing I did get involved today in a vaping thread on a politics forum I still drop in on occasionally, and I'm wondering if I can steal part of your letter for that.
Anyhow, what I started out saying was that despite being burned out on my letter writing I did get involved today in a vaping thread on a politics forum I still drop in on occasionally, and I'm wondering if I can steal part of your letter for that.
You explained it great.......and between you and David (I think) I should be ok, cuz I've done mine by clicking on the post number to put that in the browser and bookmarked it that way! thanks.
This is a great letter and I applaud you for doing it! The only thing I might add......is to include a link or web address to something that shows this if you have it.
Check acsh.org for some actual facts. Sugestet that they engage one of the CASAA board members (A grass roots organization dedicated to responsible legislation regarding vaping). I played editor with your letter above.
You don't want to tell them how to frame the story (what to show on screen) and you don't want to come off as an angry, insulting hot-head (much as I would love to do, myself)
Back up your claims with numbers, and put a reference to where you got the numbers from at the bottom of your message - as a subtle reminder of how a "real" news person should do it. Otherwise, you are merely refuting their opinion with your opinion.
If you make these changes and ones like I demonstrated above, you will show yourself to be what you are when not ...... off at idiots. A thoughtful, intelligent, and concerned citizen.
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Geno,
Nice letter! That hopefully will garner some attention.
It's so frustrating that the media parrot bad info. Where are the ol' fashioned 'reporters' that actually went out and did a lil' diggin', as opposed to relying on the web? There's soooo much info in our favor; but yet, it's easier to use fingers, cut & paste as opposed to leather!
If my portrait wasn't so much like a post office wanted poster, I'd volunteer to be a vapin' spokesperson with unrelenting logic!
Best o' luck to ya, my friend! Keep us posted, if ya will...
Uman, hi!
You write in the exact same gear I do: mad as hell and ain’t gonna take it anymore. 
I hope you know I’d never say anything mean about you or try to hurt you in any way so please don’t take this wrong. Plus, you asked for it, lol.The letter is actually good but if I was the guy at the station, I’d be offended and defensive about it. In other words it’d be tossed in the round file before he finished reading.
Say something positive about the station up front.
The story probably came in off a news feed and they don’t know any better than to just air it. As Deb said, give a link to a reputable source to back up your position. The more sources the better. Do you have any idea how many kooks write in complaining about everything including what the weather was like that day.
“Are e-cigarettes 100% safe? Probably not. “ There are articles out there by reputable people stating they are probably 95-99% safer than cigarettes according to current research. Toss a link in there.
You mentioned Chantix, also mention it is a black box medication that has caused about 600 people to commit suicide and nearly 2,000 to attempt suicide.
“… something I never could say when smoking chemically engineered tobacco.” Cigarettes have thousands of chemicals and, I believe, 67 known carcinogens. There are no carcinogens in ecigs.
Do the research for him, dazzle him with facts and just maybe they'll be interested enough to look into doing an opposing story in which they think for themselves. I applaud you, standing ovation!, for writing the letter and see myself in the words. I usually have to toss my first and second drafts until I can calm down.
ETA - Very, very nice job/post Ken! Very nicely done.
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