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FranC

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    MikeE3

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    Yikes Fran, def not a good 1st impression. Ok you have the air hole aligned - check. The coils look wrapped Ok - but before you filled it with juice, did you check that all the coils are glowing evenly. It sounds like the coil is not right. One 'hot' coil will give a nasty-nasty TH.

    • With a syringe, empty the tank.
    • The set the Provari for 3.4-3.5 volts.
    • Hold the setup so no remaining juice in the tank is touching the wick.
    • Pulse the on button of the provari, to burn off the juice in the wick.
    • --- hold it on for 5-7 seconds
    • --- let it cool for 2-3 seconds
    • --- repeat until the wick is dry
    • Then pulse on/off again until you can see all the coils glowing evenly
    • If they're not, then while any of them are glowing, with a syringe gently push them around starting at the 1st one not glowing. You may need to tweak 1 or all of them to get it right. It's easier to move the coils a tad when they're hot, as the metal will be soft. Go slow and easy tweaking 'em, until they all glow pretty evenly and you can't see any air space between the coil wraps and the wick.

    Or before even emptying the tank, take the top cap off, and fire it up. Look to see if any of the coils are turning red, even if vapor is being produced. That's a sign of a hot spot too. Then try what I wrote above, if you see a hot spot.

    Surely sounds like the coil isn't right. I was driving home the other night vaping an RBA and crap, each draw I was taking was worse than breaking off the filter of a cig and drawing on it. It burned my throat w/ a God awful TH. When I got home and fired it up w/o the cap, sure enough, even though it was making vapor, the top coil was glow red. Did what I'm suggesting to you to try, and it's been fine since.

    I'm off for the afternoon to a Daytona 500 party, I'll check in this evening when we get home. Good luck.
     

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    Good morning everyone. :)

    Sorry I've been ascent but haven't had to many questions lately.
    Got one know. :D

    Will the charger for the eGo work on the Igo?

    Please and thank you.

    Good mornin JJ. The Igo has 808 threads and the ego has 510 threads so the charger is not interchangeable..
     

    NatashaR

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    Natasha I so wish I could help you, but I'm sure someone who can will be along soon. For Tank/Carto the only thing I like is a Fusion and my tank has an easy peasy side screw fill system. It's not glass but from what I read it's indestructible :D

    Sorry I only have pics of the marks a lot size ...

    Thank you for the pix, Kat! The side screw system is an interesting concept. Has it ever leaked?
     

    NatashaR

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    Click on the link below to see a video of how to assemble and fill a tank


    The was a good vid by rip tripper on using tanks/cartos. Any carto (almost) can be used, it doesn't have to be pre-punched if you can do your own. And it's important to 'prime' the carto first or wait a good long time for it to suck juice from the tank. The filler needs to be wet before your 1st vape or you risk burning the filler.

    Wow Flint, you've been right on this! Good job! I'm glad I read through the posts before I answered because you had it covered.

    The only thing I would add is that in the video of filling the carto tank, I think he makes it look more complicated that it needs to be. We put the carto on the battery, put on the tank and then just put some juice in the carto with a needle or needle tip bottle to get some juice down into the polyfil and then fill the tank and leave it sit for 10-15 minutes and it's good to go. I take some dry puffs on it without firing it to help pull juice into the polyfil. When you can see bubbles floating up you know it's good. This is only done when it's new, once your tank gets low on juice you just take off the drip tip, pull the carto down enough to give you space to fill the tank with more juice. Push it back up, stick on the drip tip and you're done.

    We find that it's much easier to fill the tank while it's attached to the battery. I have a hard time grabbing that little end to pull it out the bottom of the tank to fill. I've never had the carto leak out the bottom like his did. Mine has 2 holes punched.

    I agree about the video, but it's hard for me to describe in words. I don't agree with him on the part when he removes the top, however. I slide the carto down and fill along the side of it. The only tank I take off the battery when filling is my locking DCT tank.

    Natasha, here's a video that might help you understand the difference between cartos/clearomizers/tanks. He does mention the vivi nova's, but there is a mini vivi nova that works great on my eGo. I did get a couple "collars" that gives a better look to it. It can stay on the eGo and I can just switch the vivi to one with a different flavor in it. This is different from a tank in that you unscrew the top, squirt in your juice and put the top back on. I like the simplicity of that. The whole thing unscrews and you just screw on a new head and your done. I do find that the flavor is muted until I go through a tank and then it's fine. Anyway, this video might help you understand some of what's out there. Sorry about the long intro on the video.

    Cartomizer, Clearomizer or Tank, which should you use? - YouTube

    Thank ya'll for all of the advice and links! I'll sit down and check all of these out ASAP, traveling home today. My PCC seems to have quit charging the batts, so now I am REALLY on the hunt for a new system.
     

    Kat56

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    Natasha, if you like the side screw fill system but only want glass/pyrex tank, I thought you might want to look at these sidewinder tanks - he offers the option to upgrade to caps rather than those grommets - option in drop down. I've never bought from him but from reviews it looks like folks are happy with his products.

    Sidewinder in 4ml or 7ml
     

    FranC

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    Yikes Fran, def not a good 1st impression. Ok you have the air hole aligned - check. The coils look wrapped Ok - but before you filled it with juice, did you check that all the coils are glowing evenly. It sounds like the coil is not right. One 'hot' coil will give a nasty-nasty TH.

    • With a syringe, empty the tank.
    • The set the Provari for 3.4-3.5 volts.
    • Hold the setup so no remaining juice in the tank is touching the wick.
    • Pulse the on button of the provari, to burn off the juice in the wick.
    • --- hold it on for 5-7 seconds
    • --- let it cool for 2-3 seconds
    • --- repeat until the wick is dry
    • Then pulse on/off again until you can see all the coils glowing evenly
    • If they're not, then while any of them are glowing, with a syringe gently push them around starting at the 1st one not glowing. You may need to tweak 1 or all of them to get it right. It's easier to move the coils a tad when they're hot, as the metal will be soft. Go slow and easy tweaking 'em, until they all glow pretty evenly and you can't see any air space between the coil wraps and the wick.

    Or before even emptying the tank, take the top cap off, and fire it up. Look to see if any of the coils are turning red, even if vapor is being produced. That's a sign of a hot spot too. Then try what I wrote above, if you see a hot spot.

    Surely sounds like the coil isn't right. I was driving home the other night vaping an RBA and crap, each draw I was taking was worse than breaking off the filter of a cig and drawing on it. It burned my throat w/ a God awful TH. When I got home and fired it up w/o the cap, sure enough, even though it was making vapor, the top coil was glow red. Did what I'm suggesting to you to try, and it's been fine since.

    I'm off for the afternoon to a Daytona 500 party, I'll check in this evening when we get home. Good luck.

    I did check it before but I was set at 4.0. It seemed to burn evenly but it caught on fire. Just touched with my finger and put that out. Could the wick be burnt? I checked the coils again like you said (turning down the voltage). Re-filled and it's still the same. Leaving it til I get some advice.
     

    MikeE3

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    I did check it before but I was set at 4.0. It seemed to burn evenly but it caught on fire. Just touched with my finger and put that out. Could the wick be burnt? I checked the coils again like you said (turning down the voltage). Re-filled and it's still the same. Leaving it til I get some advice.

    Well, that's certainly strange. Even doing a dry fire on a new wick/coil at 4.0 volts, I wouldn't expect it to catch fire. The wicks have a coating of PV or VG when shipped. Even at that a 'small fire' shouldn't burn the wick. Actually a lot of people coat the wick in juice then light it with a bic and let it burn out after as part of the oxidation process.

    When you check the ohms of the coil - what do you get?
    With the cap off and pressing the 'on' button - does it seem to produce a fair amount of vapor w/o any coils or the lead from the pos post to the coil glowing?

    It reminds me of the taste people get with a new dripping atty that had a residual of manufacturing oils in it - a nasty taste. It was standard procedure to blow them out before vaping with them. I wonder if the wick is 'contaminated' with something. I'm wondering if you just do repeated burns of juice if it would burn out the taste. Just guessing here Fran, I'm stumped at the moment to think what could be wrong.
     

    MikeE3

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    Well after emptying the darn tank 6 times I disassembled and started over. New wick and new wire. My first attempt at wrapping a coil was horrid but the second not bad. It all burned pretty even so I tried it. Same burnt taste. I giving up for today.

    oh no Fran. All I can offer is {{{Fran}}} :blush:
     

    MikeE3

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    Geez Fran - I'm no expert, I've only done a couple-few dozen wicks/coils. I had trouble with my first few setups and the next few were OK before I started getting consistent. Two things have given me harsh/hot hits.

    The easiest to fix is the air hole. It must be aligned with the coil or it tastes very harsh. But you've done this.

    Yikes! did you push a large syringe through the air hole - could it be blocked? Or could it be too small?!!! I've heard of two people in the last order getting top caps were the air hole was too small and it didn't vape well at all. The air hole on the ZAP is pretty big, it's a 1/16" hole. If your hubby has any small drill bits you could see if a 1/16" bit fits through the hole.

    The most common cause is an improper coil - that's the checklist I gave in my earlier post. You should be able to fire the PV and watch the coil give off vaper for a good 7-10 seconds without any of the coils glowing. If it doesn't pass this test, the coil needs nudging and tweaking until it does. A really good functioning coil will just produce vapor without glowing until the Provari's safety mechanism cuts in and turns it off (about 15 seconds).

    Ok - it's a challenge now. We'll figure this out. :laugh:

    edit: without firing up the PV when you draw through the ZAP does it feel airy - maybe even more so than a Fusion? It should.
     
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