I bought a myBlu the other day because it was $1. It was actually great and saw vids on youtube to refill. It's great.
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I bought a myBlu the other day because it was $1. It was actually great and saw vids on youtube to refill. It's great.
Hey I love the octo-mesh CloudZ headSo you're saying those of us who haven't used a pre-built in many years should just stay away from those kinds of questions?
That's mostly what I do, 'cause I don't have a dang clue why someone might not be getting good results from the latest octo-mesh CloudZ head.
Well, I spend less time building and mixing than I used to spend running to the store for smokes, and I bought my smokes by the carton, not the pack.
I bought mine by the carton, too, but it takes me ten minutes to go buy that. Took me an hour to clean and rewick my tanks, and that’s when they don’t need new coils.
I’m learning to do this because I think it’s a good life skill, and finding replacement coils gets to be a drag. Is the flavor that much better, or the savings so good it’s worth it? Um, not really imho.
But the point is, if someone asks advice, I’m not gonna tell them to do something they clearly say they don’t want to do.
I can make a gallon of premium eliquid for the cost of a single halibut.
Oops, sorry. wrong thread. Carry on.
Oops, sorry. wrong thread. Carry on.
My main motivation for moving to building coils rather than buying them was to ensure that the FDA would never be able to push me back to smoking. But that was also back in the day when all the pre-built heads were still using silica wicks, and yes, I found that building my own coils with cotton or rayon wicks really was much better. I suppose that pre-built coils have gotten better since then, but I've never looked back.
As for time, yep 10 minutes to go buy a carton, roughly every 5th day. But I get two to four weeks out of the wick in my most-used setup, and I can clean and re-wick it in under 10 minutes. It might take an additional 5 minutes if I decide to build a new coil, which I do about three or four times per year. So I definitely spend less time fussing with my vapes than I used to spend getting smokes.
I do understand that some people simply don't wish to be bothered. I just don't know what advice to give them.
Doesnt matter what internet forum you are on on any subject, its nearly always the same.
Some one might ask, "I narrowed it down to three options, out of A, B and C which do you recommend"
First post in, I have B! I like it!
by the fourth post "K! I paid money for it and have financial, time and emotional investment in it. Its the best"
5th post "Personally I wouldnt go with "K", the dibits are to convoluted. Mine broke!"
Rest of the thread is talking about "K" and "user error" and how to negate dibit breakage.
OP buys "Q" and over the next few months joins in threads asking about "A, B or C recommendations" and suggests "Q"
The information you seek is there, its just spread out over 12 threads in 3 different ecig forums and you have to wade through stuff that isnt relevant (at the time but might be later) to get to it.
Some one might ask, "I narrowed it down to three options, out of A, B and C which do you recommend"
First post in, I have B! I like it!
by the fourth post "K! I paid money for it and have financial, time and emotional investment in it. Its the best"
5th post "Personally I wouldnt go with "K", the dibits are to convoluted. Mine broke!"
Rest of the thread is talking about "K" and "user error" and how to negate dibit breakage.
OP buys "Q" and over the next few months joins in threads asking about "A, B or C recommendations" and suggests "Q"
The information you seek is there, its just spread out over 12 threads in 3 different ecig forums and you have to wade through stuff that isnt relevant (at the time but might be later) to get to it.
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Better than the old coils, absolutely. Some of these new ones though, seriously good. I get three weeks out of a GT. I get maybe a week on my cotton lol.
There are pros and cons for both. But also, you have a lot of experience, me not so much. I’m sure aptitude and talent come into it as well. Time will tell if I have any of either.
It’s funny, I started to diy a few months into vaping and felt very proficient in a couple weeks. Building is much more of a learning curve for me.
Opposite for me; I abandoned factory coils long before I ever made any juice.
But as I keep saying here: People are different, as are their journeys down the rabbit hole, and some simply don't want to go very deep. That's OK. To each his (or her) own vape.
I think a lot of has to do with what rabbit holes other interests have lead them down and continue to lead them down and how much time is devoted to those other interests.
I have some interests that Im really passionate about. A few of them are very consuming, money, time, energy.
Vaping for me and a lot of others is simply, get a few mods, find tanks you like, bang in a coil, find juice you like, stop smoking and continue enjoying the minute buzz of nic. Its cheap and its easy, no extra rabbit holes needed.
But...that depends on the single halibut! If it's a 105 pounder or an 86lb. one, like 2 that I caught a couple summers ago...I don't think a gallon would do it!
I don't much care for it either, even more so the "Prince coils are bad, get their RBA deck."
Okay PRINCE coils ARE bad, but if I had arrived in that type of situation, and then get told to get the build deck I would have blown myself up ON PURPOSE.
Although to be fair, I am one who still enjoys good old drop in coils, in many vendors, I mean I JUST changed my Zenith coil from a 0.8 to a 1.6. I actually PREFER that coil atm, it's crazy cloudier than my 0.8 was, they must REALLY clog up before tasting bad. LOL I might ignore my rebuildables WAY more today, than any of my RTAs.
LOL that's the thing though, variety. I was under a SELF-IMPOSED RTA order though mainly because I thought all my MTL non TC vapes were going to kill me, man, only to find out TC is only useful (for me) under certain very specific circumstances and I am STILL not dead.
I am magnitude orders of CRANKER and I DO MEAN A JILLION times crankier with the newcomer who keeps cheerily and in an elfin manner PLAYING with her about to explode VAPE, and then reporting how it's now "fixed." It's been fixed FIFTY times now, and it took ALL I HAD to not say, "And have you PEED on the hot part of the vape yet, did THAT fix it, OMG I want to send her cheery, ignorant behind to the Sahara desert.
I mean, the last post which I erased ended with, "I wish you luck, 100% luck, and by that I mean I hope you drop it down a STORM drain, where it cannot hurt you or others."
But you know, different annoyances for different folks. But yeah, RTAs and rebuildables are fine, for when you are ready to handle them and there is the odd newcomer who wishes to start out with "The Russian 91%" or whatever it's called, and you go OOOH.
Only I WAS that person, it went predictably badly, LOL, with much AID from the rebuildable forum and I still don't vape it and like, keep it fondly on my vape stand and go "Man, what a train wreck THAT was,." LOL.
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Okay PRINCE coils ARE bad, but if I had arrived in that type of situation, and then get told to get the build deck I would have blown myself up ON PURPOSE.
Although to be fair, I am one who still enjoys good old drop in coils, in many vendors, I mean I JUST changed my Zenith coil from a 0.8 to a 1.6. I actually PREFER that coil atm, it's crazy cloudier than my 0.8 was, they must REALLY clog up before tasting bad. LOL I might ignore my rebuildables WAY more today, than any of my RTAs.
LOL that's the thing though, variety. I was under a SELF-IMPOSED RTA order though mainly because I thought all my MTL non TC vapes were going to kill me, man, only to find out TC is only useful (for me) under certain very specific circumstances and I am STILL not dead.
I am magnitude orders of CRANKER and I DO MEAN A JILLION times crankier with the newcomer who keeps cheerily and in an elfin manner PLAYING with her about to explode VAPE, and then reporting how it's now "fixed." It's been fixed FIFTY times now, and it took ALL I HAD to not say, "And have you PEED on the hot part of the vape yet, did THAT fix it, OMG I want to send her cheery, ignorant behind to the Sahara desert.
I mean, the last post which I erased ended with, "I wish you luck, 100% luck, and by that I mean I hope you drop it down a STORM drain, where it cannot hurt you or others."
But you know, different annoyances for different folks. But yeah, RTAs and rebuildables are fine, for when you are ready to handle them and there is the odd newcomer who wishes to start out with "The Russian 91%" or whatever it's called, and you go OOOH.
Only I WAS that person, it went predictably badly, LOL, with much AID from the rebuildable forum and I still don't vape it and like, keep it fondly on my vape stand and go "Man, what a train wreck THAT was,." LOL.
Anna
I made some halibut flavored juice in honor of this thread. A gallon in fact. It's very nice.
I started coil winding once I became bored with buying coils for my Nautilus tank atty around 5 years ago. I recoiled and rewicked the Nautilus for a while and finally bit the bullet and bought a Kayfun V2. The major sticking point with factory coils was the cost. They went South in about 3 or 4 days, so I was spending $30 to $40 a month on coils. They were a pain to rebuild, so an RTA with an open coil structure seemed to be the fix. It was.
Ah, now we know why the captain and his crew could never find who had hid the halibut on the poop deck
Seriously, as someone who still uses 'store bought' coils at least five days a week would like to share a few observations. Early on I noticed that my only variable battery (Ego Twist) would get turned up accidentally and burn up coils fast. Sometimes in less than a day... Ended up super gluing it at the point where it was just slightly harder hitting than my next best battery. (Ego C pass through)
More recently have noticed that as my few surviving batteries are getting near end of life coils are lasting much longer. Months instead of weeks. So the advice to turn down your voltage / wattage / whatever is spot on!
I think an "Atomizer A - Z" would be an extremely useful tool for those looking for help. As opposed to, or in addition to, recommendations for a device which is preferred by a single individual.
Most new users i'm sure are familiar with at least a couple of brands. Finding an atomizer by brand means being able to make a choice from everything that's available from that brand/s. Or maybe check on other items on the list.
But an "Atomizer A- Z" would be a mammoth task.
My "Mods A - Z" isn't such a big project by comparison.
I figure if a group of members got together and built an Atomizer A - Z offline it wouldn't take too long to have a respectable sized list. Just pass it around by email, once it's considered to be large enough then post it. Maintaining it means adding a few new Atomizers a month. Not such a big task. More like a hobby !.
I'm just trying to provide a solution to the problems new usurs may have. To make the whole process easier.
Most new users i'm sure are familiar with at least a couple of brands. Finding an atomizer by brand means being able to make a choice from everything that's available from that brand/s. Or maybe check on other items on the list.
But an "Atomizer A- Z" would be a mammoth task.
My "Mods A - Z" isn't such a big project by comparison.
I figure if a group of members got together and built an Atomizer A - Z offline it wouldn't take too long to have a respectable sized list. Just pass it around by email, once it's considered to be large enough then post it. Maintaining it means adding a few new Atomizers a month. Not such a big task. More like a hobby !.
I'm just trying to provide a solution to the problems new usurs may have. To make the whole process easier.
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I love prebuilt coils on my RTAs. I suck at making coils. I'd rather buy my claptons, hives and aliens and just pop them in.this is obviously just MY pet peeve but I’ve had it since I was a noobie looking for help...
It’s not helpful when someone esp a noobie comes here to ask for help with their coils/atty and everyone chimes in about building their own coils and how much better they are & how much money they’ll save etc etc etc...Then a long list of tweets about which RTA would be good for a beginner. Blah blah blah
So cool you build your own coils. Awesome. But not everyone wants to or can. Or are just starting out and are stressed enough.
So instead try helping with their questions. If they’re interested in building they’ll be reading about RBAs eventually unless they live under a rock and then they will be asking about building.
Rant over. Flame away.
BTW I LOVE building my own coils but I also LOVE my drop in coil tanks too.
I still use drop in heads to go out and about. I work from home, so there's always the odd rebuildable built in.So you're saying those of us who haven't used a pre-built in many years should just stay away from those kinds of questions?
That's mostly what I do, 'cause I don't have a dang clue why someone might not be getting good results from the latest octo-mesh CloudZ head.
But some days I'm having a bad day and those drop in keep me from stinkies. So, basically, yeah, some still vape drop ins.
I agree that rebuilding isn't always the answer but, depending on the question asked, sometimes it is.
Personally I started rebuilding ViviNova, EVOD, and ARO heads over 5 years ago and while my tanks have improved, I still rebuild everything I vape. For the price of about 1 month worth of drop in heads, I have supplies that will last me YEARS. To me the cost savings is worth it. Especially with the added bonus of knowing I won't ever have to worry if a manufacturer will continue selling the coils for my tanks. That is a real risk for drop in coil tanks. I also DIY my own eliquid, the cost savings from that are HUGE.
Personally I started rebuilding ViviNova, EVOD, and ARO heads over 5 years ago and while my tanks have improved, I still rebuild everything I vape. For the price of about 1 month worth of drop in heads, I have supplies that will last me YEARS. To me the cost savings is worth it. Especially with the added bonus of knowing I won't ever have to worry if a manufacturer will continue selling the coils for my tanks. That is a real risk for drop in coil tanks. I also DIY my own eliquid, the cost savings from that are HUGE.
I’m retired so I’m always home. And I have enough supplies to make coils for at least a year, for the cost of oh, let’s say five boxes of drop ins. I’m still trying to get a building routine down, but I try to do all my RTAs on a certain day, fill two of them, and then I have a few fresh ones to use when those first two get funky. Maybe it’s just me, but I get 4 days or so before they’re not really good.
That’s kind of a pain, when I can get 2-3 weeks from a drop in. Even my most expensive ones, the GTs, are only $3 each. Seriously, I could use a box for $9 a month and save all the farting around of building.
If I’d started building before my husband died, I maybe would have enjoyed it. But without him, having to constantly fix something in my 130 year old house, I just don’t need anymore stuff to fix. Taking out tools of any sort equals a bad day for me. And I’m not bad at it, although I have a lot to learn, and I think it’s a good thing to know. But I’m can’t look down on anyone for not wanting to go this route.
I consider it a much bigger pet peeve when someone just joins to ask a question that if they took 1/4 of the time it took them to go through creating an account, logging in, writing their "question" and actually do a search, they would have about 2,000 posts/threads, web pages, blogs, etc. with the exact same question and answers.
I can understand a question that may have a very particular particularity about the device or whatever they are asking, and that's fine, but if we were to do a very serious clean-up of all the repetition, the number of threads would probably be reduced by 75% if not more.
Note that this isn't a rant about this site/forum, it's a question that is everywhere, groups, and any forums, it simply boggles me that so many simply cannot do a basic search for very common questions, like "the wrap of my battery is damaged, should I still use it" or "I want to vape to do cloudzzzz, can I use a 80A 17800mA FireBuurts battery that I bought from a truck in a parking lot on a 0.0003 ohm triple coil on a mech that he built using a flashlight body"... there's probably over a thousand threads and detailed pages out there, etc. about this. People simply don't bother. Even worse, some will start arguing about the proper replies that members will be kind enough to provide (such as, that such a battery being dangerous and they'll insist that it's fine because the truck seller told him so).
I can understand a question that may have a very particular particularity about the device or whatever they are asking, and that's fine, but if we were to do a very serious clean-up of all the repetition, the number of threads would probably be reduced by 75% if not more.
Note that this isn't a rant about this site/forum, it's a question that is everywhere, groups, and any forums, it simply boggles me that so many simply cannot do a basic search for very common questions, like "the wrap of my battery is damaged, should I still use it" or "I want to vape to do cloudzzzz, can I use a 80A 17800mA FireBuurts battery that I bought from a truck in a parking lot on a 0.0003 ohm triple coil on a mech that he built using a flashlight body"... there's probably over a thousand threads and detailed pages out there, etc. about this. People simply don't bother. Even worse, some will start arguing about the proper replies that members will be kind enough to provide (such as, that such a battery being dangerous and they'll insist that it's fine because the truck seller told him so).
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