Post pictures of your working wick and coil setup

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It's an alpaca BTW, it's an inside joke from the rayon thread, alpaca fur was a possible front runner for best wick material!
Now be truthful, you just wanna keep mom's alpaca farm from going under by getting everyone to start using alpaca to wick their attys. ;)

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For that build ohm range I'd go 30 ga, it's a bit harder to deal with just anneal it a lot,
It's an alpaca BTW, it's an inside joke from the rayon thread, alpaca fur was a possible front runner for best wick material!

Ah, I had no idea that alpacas so closely resembled camels!

30ga is just too flimsy, and 28ga takes too long to heat up, at my preferred resistance; that's why I thought 29ga might suit.

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"Center Post" build on an SS Quasar. 7 wraps of 26ga for .4 Ohms.....I would highly recommend trying this on your rda....the airflow & flavor is MUCH better!! :)

I've had some pretty decent results with center posts too, maybe not huge flavor boosting, but the vapor definitely feels more consistent and you KNOW the airflow is hitting it right that way lol. The only dripper that it doesn't work for on mine is the brass monkee; it has a big'ol block in the very middle (it's the dual positive "T" post like the helios) and I think the airflow smacks the vapor right into that "wall", and really messes things up. It's all about directing your airflow into open space, so for the Quasar I bet it works great as it does especially for my tobh atty & dominator. The brass monkee can't do it though, the vapor needs to flow through the gaps in the post, or straight up, otherwise the vape is really "spitty" and it shoots droplets into my mouth :p.

Nice build brother! If you want a challenge try the "straight through", honestly I didn't get stellar results from it, but the airflow worked great lol.





And of course you can't go wrong with doing it both ways! (I stupidly did this, and took an angle grinder to the tobhs teeth afterwards, didn't use'em anyway lol.)


 

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Ah, I had no idea that alpacas so closely resembled camels!

30ga is just too flimsy, and 28ga takes too long to heat up, at my preferred resistance; that's why I thought 29ga might suit.

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It is really good stuff, although tricky to build with sometimes, one day you should try out some 24ga. That's currently my favorite, because it's sooo easy to build with, and you can use more wraps while getting better heat you would from 28ga. It'll give you alot more vapor most of the time, because there's more coil surface area in contact with your juiced up wick, as well as being a little hotter than an identical build of thinner wire. Although do what works best for you :D.
 

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You have no idea how jealous I am sedge, you have awesome taste brother :D. I'm waiting for mine in the mail and I'm still trying to decide what 26650 I want, if those coils are 1/16th" diameter, then that's exactly what I'm going to throw in mine as soon as it arrives, minus about 3 wraps on each, but then again I've never used a 26650 or a tri-coil system so I'm sure you dialed it in! That's my sweet spot anyway now that I think of it, .2 or maybe a hair less is where I'm always at.
 

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You have no idea how jealous I am sedge, you have awesome taste brother :D. I'm waiting for mine in the mail and I'm still trying to decide what 26650 I want, if those coils are 1/16th" diameter, then that's exactly what I'm going to throw in mine as soon as it arrives, minus about 3 wraps on each, but then again I've never used a 26650 or a tri-coil system so I'm sure you dialed it in! That's my sweet spot anyway now that I think of it, .2 or maybe a hair less is where I'm always at.

I am so thoroughly happy with my BCV BFM. I got a 1.6 mm ID there at 6/7 wrap with 26g. At 0.23 ohms it is perfect. Quickly heats up. Just amazing flavor and tons of vapor and not too hot. At first it was a bit much but I dialed in the afc perfectly.
 

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I just finished a replacement coil at my st my station.

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I want to know what you need that large level for when making coils ;)

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A build ain't worth calling a build, if it isn't 100% straight and level duh?

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It is really good stuff, although tricky to build with sometimes, one day you should try out some 24ga. That's currently my favorite, because it's sooo easy to build with, and you can use more wraps while getting better heat you would from 28ga. It'll give you alot more vapor most of the time, because there's more coil surface area in contact with your juiced up wick, as well as being a little hotter than an identical build of thinner wire. Although do what works best for you :D.

You have to be kidding... to get to even 1.5 ohms, I'd need 17 wraps of 24ga, with a 7/64 bit!! I'm trying out some slightly lower resistance coils, but by that I mean, 1.3-1.5 ohms. Got no interest whatsoever in sub-ohm, or even in approaching that level. That much vapor would send me straight to the emergency room with an asthma attack -- if it didn't just out and out kill me.

29ga, on a 7/64, will need just 6 wraps to be around 1.5 ohms, and frankly that sounds PERFECT.

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You have to be kidding... to get to even 1.5 ohms, I'd need 17 wraps of 24ga, with a 7/64 bit!! I'm trying out some slightly lower resistance coils, but by that I mean, 1.3-1.5 ohms. Got no interest whatsoever in sub-ohm, or even in approaching that level. That much vapor would send me straight to the emergency room with an asthma attack -- if it didn't just out and out kill me.

29ga, on a 7/64, will need just 6 wraps to be around 1.5 ohms, and frankly that sounds PERFECT.

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I've actually found that a 0.6-0.8 in a KF is pretty smooth and vapable, on a mech. When I started doing higher wattage I was surprised that it really wasn't harsher, actually smoother for me. I actually started liking my KFs more when I ditched my Vamo5 and moved to a straight tube.

When you get curious check one out -- you can pick up a pretty decent mech for $25-$35 on ebay (like an HCigar Nemesis or a Infinite Stingray, etc). The current is constant, so it actually ,makes for a much gentler vape relative to the power level.
 

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I've actually found that a 0.6-0.8 in a KF is pretty smooth and vapable, on a mech. When I started doing higher wattage I was surprised that it really wasn't harsher, actually smoother for me. I actually started liking my KFs more when I ditched my Vamo5 and moved to a straight tube.

When you get curious check one out -- you can pick up a pretty decent mech for $25-$35 on ebay (like an HCigar Nemesis or a Infinite Stingray, etc). The current is constant, so it actually ,makes for a much gentler vape relative to the power level.


I really don't think that's for me at all; I went from cigalikes directly to an iTaste vv3, with all the cool features, variable wattage, etc. Then I got a 2nd vv3, then the Sigelei zmax v3, and I love them all; even my "twists" are variable voltage. In fact I have exactly one battery that's not variable, a little 650 mah that would be great for stealth vaping if I couild find a small enough topper for it. Drippers are the shortest, but my caterpillar is 22mm wide, which aint exactly stealthy. :D

And powerful batteries this close to my face, I'd far prefer to have some kind of circuitry between me and that battery, as well as some way of knowing the battery's voltage at any time I feel the need to know, and the coil's resistance anytime.

It's not really the "smooth" so much, though that's part of the reason I don't like low resistance vaping, but when the coil is that hot, it makes real clouds of vapor, and with my asthma, I can't handle it without nearly expiring of an asthma attack. Also my regular juice doesn't taste good with too much heat, so I need to stay at least above 1.3 ohms, or risk wrecking the taste. I like a warm vape, but not hot at all -- another reason I don't like dual coils at all.

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Perhaps, but the VV/VWs do generally come out hotter and harsher at similar powers. Also, i don't think dual coils get hotter becuase they are dual... I mean, my hottest running RDA has a single twisted 28g micro coil @0.3ohms.

I considered myself a VV/VW man for a while, and then even when I had mechs I still used my KFs on the VV/VW. One day I played around a bit and found something I liked way more. Was not what I was expecting. When I was using the VV/VW more I'd adjust it all the time, but my vape was never as flavorful or clean.

Just sayin eventually you'll get bored, as everyone does, I think, and maybe check out the unregulated world when you do. It's not like the ohms on a coil change when installed and you need to keep checking it... and if they do it is upwards due to gunk etc... and you can tell the power of your batt by how it vapes, after a bit of experience. Only downside IMO is changing batteries every 2-3hrs or so, but is not that onerous. PLus a good mech will literally last forever, with maybe some minor, cheap upkeep, which is something no regulated mod can claim, not even a Provari.
 
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Perhaps, but the VV/VWs do generally come out hotter and harsher at similar powers. Also, i don't think dual coils get hotter becuase they are dual... I mean, my hottest running RDA has a single twisted 28g micro coil @0.3ohms.

I considered myself a VV/VW man for a while, and then even when I had mechs I still used my KFs on the VV/VW. One day I played around a bit and found something I liked way more. Was not what I was expecting. When I was using the VV/VW more I'd adjust it all the time, but my vape was never as flavorful or clean.

Just sayin eventually you'll get bored, as everyone does, I think, and maybe check out the unregulated world when you do. It's not like the ohms on a coil change when installed and you need to keep checking it... and if they do it is upwards due to gunk etc... and you can tell the power of your batt by how it vapes, after a bit of experience. Only downside IMO is changing batteries every 2-3hrs or so, but is not that onerous. PLus a good mech will literally last forever, with maybe some minor, cheap upkeep, which is something no regulated mod can claim, not even a Provari.

Maybe. But why do you need to change the batteries so often? an 18650 lasts me pretty much all day long... stacked '350s last me nearly 3 days. Of course I wouldn't run the stacked in a mech, there being no safety margin, but still, I can't see why an 18650 wouldn't last all day in one of those too.

I do like the fact of their simplicity and thus potential longevity, and if we really do go into some kind of "vapocalypse" I may get one just to keep put back, for the day when the electronics fail and I can't get more. Hopefully, we'll never get to that, but I want to cover my bases if we do. I don't know if I'll want to vape forever, but I don't know that I won't. I never thought I'd quit smoking! :D

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In an unregulated mod the power falls as the battery discharges. It starts at 4.2 volts and falls. I find that I want to change em out by 3.9... so, ever couple hours.

In the VV/VW you can take the batts down to like 3.3v and still output whatever, but with a mech when you're building your coils to play well in the 3.8-4.1 range the vape really starts to suffer eventually. But, with a bat @ 4v in my 0.7ohm KF build, I'm pushing 5.7a and 23w. Which would have seemed like overkill before I actually tried it. Nicer to me than 10.5w on my Vamo5 at any rate.

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You will get curious eventually. :D

and yeah... good planning for the vapocalypse too
 

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It sounds like a worst-case scenario, frankly. With all the benefits of vv/vw and all the trimmings, I just can't find a good reason for a mech, unless the electronic was simply not available -- if there was an EMP, for instance. Or the FDA showed their true fascist murderer-protectionist colors and just banned all of it, and I couldn't buy anymore electronics to vape with.

At least they're pretty, I'll give 'em that.

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