Post pictures of your working wick and coil setup

[DeadbeatJeff]

The last two posts just provided me with an actual good reason for a mech: not being limited to that "10 second" draw. The 10-second rule was why I found the 28ga so unusable at the higher resistance I prefer; by the time it was actually making good vapor, the 10-sec rule would kick in and shut it down.

Ok, finally a mark in the PRO column for mechs, aside from "looks pretty" and "won't die like electronics do".

I do wish some of these electronic gizmos would make that "10-second rule" something you could program to suit yourself; 15 seconds would be a lot better.

Andria

Andria, my typical pull on my 0.7 kayfun build is - one quick puff, not inhaled, while it's getting hot - 0.3sec - and then a 1 sec mouth-lung pull. Gives as much vapor as a 5-7-10sec pull on my wifes eGo setup, but just more flavor and better density and feel. On my really low (0.2-0.3) RDAs I'll lung-pull a 2-3 sec and fully clouded)

 

[treehead]

I just finished a replacement coil at my st my station.

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Nice work station brother, isn't that soldering "helping hands" tool the best? That's one wide coil, I bet that'll never burn, juice for days! I've been trying to push my russian 91% for the past few months to do the opposite, I'd like to get a sub-ohm nano-coil working in'er. I've nearly achieved dripping vapor amount by drilling out the wick holes, and airflow (god was that hard). It's a whole new animal now though! It now stays wet enough to run the super hot coils, and with the extra airflow, it's catapulting the fog, and the flavor is kicking me in the teeth. (In a good way lol)

 

[treehead]

You have to be kidding... to get to even 1.5 ohms, I'd need 17 wraps of 24ga, with a 7/64 bit!! I'm trying out some slightly lower resistance coils, but by that I mean, 1.3-1.5 ohms. Got no interest whatsoever in sub-ohm, or even in approaching that level. That much vapor would send me straight to the emergency room with an asthma attack -- if it didn't just out and out kill me.

29ga, on a 7/64, will need just 6 wraps to be around 1.5 ohms, and frankly that sounds PERFECT.

Andria

Oops sorry I didn't realize you'd found your sweet spot . Are you using a mod that has an ohm limit? Or is that just what you prefer? Because a 1ohm coil isn't that intense at all depending on how you build it, just a suggestion for flavor really . You'd be surprised at how similar a .8ohm vape is to a 1.5ohm, although it's nearly half the ohms, it just means you hold down the button less, you get what you want faster that's all. But I totally understand where your coming from.

 

[treehead]

It sounds like a worst-case scenario, frankly. With all the benefits of vv/vw and all the trimmings, I just can't find a good reason for a mech, unless the electronic was simply not available -- if there was an EMP, for instance. Or the FDA showed their true fascist murderer-protectionist colors and just banned all of it, and I couldn't buy anymore electronics to vape with.

At least they're pretty, I'll give 'em that.

Andria

I like mechanicals only because it's 100% freedom, BUT that being said, I really do like regulated vaping just because I'm an "exact" guy. Although I can do the math to be exact with a mechanical, man do I wish I had a screen showing exactly what I'm vaping.

~The day they release a regulated device that will let you vape whatever ohms you want, and basically kick your battery to it's safety limits so it eliminates drop off, I will be on HAPPY guy. I really do understand regulation, once the DNA40 comes out I'm definitely going to get one .

When are they going to release a "pass-through DNA-unlimited" already? Imagine, regulated wall power at 80 watts.

 

[AndriaD]

I don't really know about the limits, except my own... I have asthma, and for the last 20 yrs, I had to smoke ultra-lights, or end up spending more time coughing than smoking. Yeah I heard all that "well you should just quit," to which my reply was always 'well you should just mind your own business.' But the cigarettes I smoked, though ultra-lights, still had a bit of throat hit, which at that point was my main criteria -- does it actually feel like I'm smoking a cigarette? rather than sucking air through a straw. Now, I have this great replacement, and my asthma is definitely improved a great deal... but not gone, and it never will be, and certain kinds of stimuli trigger it horribly. So I have to be careful how hot, how much TH, and how much and how thick the vapor is. Lower ohm coils are nearly always hotter, and nearly always produce a great deal more vapor -- hence my problems with my Caterpillar.

I finally managed to build a coil for that thing that I can actually stand, and as long as the juice I'm using in the dripper has ZERO throat hit of its own, I can use my caterpillar to taste new stuff, but it'll never be my primary, just too much fiddling around -- I want to fill a tank and not worry about it until it's either empty, or it's time for me to drop the nic a little, as I do at night -- but even that last bit is easy now that I have 2 terrifically-working kayfuns (clones) -- I have a clear M-tank for day, 9-10mg, and a smoke M-tank for night, 6-7mg, so I just switch between them.

I also discovered recently that VG, even as little as 33%, just flat out smothers me -- even my rescue inhaler won't work if I can't inhale enough to get the medicine in there. So I'm back to about 80%-85% PG, and don't walk around feeling I have something in my chest that needs to be coughed up, and not feeling smothered and completely unable to breathe. PG is indeed very dehydrating, and my swollen feet and ankles from that dehydration are painful and a bit worrisome, but being unable to breathe is far worse, so I'll just have to deal with the PG dehydration, including swollen feet and puffy ankles, as best I can.

Andria

 

[DeadbeatJeff]

ha

I can't stand anything with more PG than VG, and generally prefer over 66%VG... most of the juice I've made recently has no added PG, just what is there from the flavorings, and about 1% water

 

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[Tbev]

Are your channels connected or separate.

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[Blackl1sted]

The last two posts just provided me with an actual good reason for a mech: not being limited to that "10 second" draw. The 10-second rule was why I found the 28ga so unusable at the higher resistance I prefer; by the time it was actually making good vapor, the 10-sec rule would kick in and shut it down.

Ok, finally a mark in the PRO column for mechs, aside from "looks pretty" and "won't die like electronics do".

I do wish some of these electronic gizmos would make that "10-second rule" something you could program to suit yourself; 15 seconds would be a lot better.

Andria

To get away from the "10 second" max try letting off the button for a split second and see if it will "reset" the 10 second max. I was doing that when I was using the ego style batteries and it worked with that. Not sure if it will work with the regulated devices you are using or not. Worth a shot though.

 

[bsoplinger]

The latest crop of Chinese higher Wattage mods have longer limits, at the expense of a loss of very low voltage (<4) operations. The 30W Vamo and the Hana clones. I believe even the 20W Sigelei allows for a longer draw.

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[sunnata]

1.1Ω - 32ga triple (poorly) twisted. Not happy with twisting attempt, will redo it in a couple days.

 

[AndriaD]

The latest crop of Chinese higher Wattage mods have longer limits, at the expense of a loss of very low voltage (<4) operations. The 30W Vamo and the Hana clones. I believe even the 20W Sigelei allows for a longer draw.

There's now a 30w Sigelei too. I hadn't really given any thought to the higher-power devices, since they're really overkill for my own requirements, but I might look at that 20w if that cut-off is longer, or can be programmed. Of course it's $83, so... maybe for xmas. If the ol man gets a good xmas bonus.

Andria

 

[Tbev]

Back to pics in the pic thread...


Breaking in the Ov2 with the world's ugliest dual parallels netting 0.4ohm, wicked w rayon, ... Needs to be drilled out a bit.

Great flavor out of my other new toy:

Twisted 28ga dual coils netting 0.45 0hm

 

[DocHo11idaze]

First try at building my own coils. Not the most aesthetic build but it works. Can't get them to squeeze any tighter due to the way they go into the posts. Used a multimeter to test the ohm. The leads read at .3 and .4, leaned towards .3 more. Put leads on the post, read .9 so right around .5/.6 ohms. On a nimbus clone using a fresh charged vtc5. Using 26 gauge kanthal

 

[DeadbeatJeff]

Testing the limits of the Sony 26650VTs

Parallel coil 4 wraps, double twisted 28gauge @ 0.1

Kicks some serious vapor, almost too much. Am still playing with it, as the extreme heat is giving me a little cotton taste.

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[AbbyHawk]

0.45ohm dual coil on my Igo-W.
Each coil is 7 wraps of 28 gauge kanthal around 5/64.
Organic cotton.

 

[treehead]

Andria, my typical pull on my 0.7 kayfun build is - one quick puff, not inhaled, while it's getting hot - 0.3sec - and then a 1 sec mouth-lung pull. Gives as much vapor as a 5-7-10sec pull on my wifes eGo setup, but just more flavor and better density and feel. On my really low (0.2-0.3) RDAs I'll lung-pull a 2-3 sec and fully clouded)

That's weird on my Russian big it's about 2-3 seconds for a satisfying vape/cloud, the lowest I can build on it (for chain vaping anyway) is around .5, and that's after I widened the juice flow canals a little. For my low ohming (.2 or lower usually) RDA's, it's literally half second - second pulls for big vapor. Anything after 2 seconds on Shiseido cotton will start to go dry on me fast. It may be because my coils are 1/16th" diameter though, pretty small wick going through them.

 

[treehead]

0.45ohm dual coil on my Igo-W.
Each coil is 7 wraps of 28 gauge kanthal around 5/64.
Organic cotton.
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Very nice, that's quite a soaker build! Looks like a cotton candy machine in there .

 

[treehead]

I don't really know about the limits, except my own... I have asthma, and for the last 20 yrs, I had to smoke ultra-lights, or end up spending more time coughing than smoking. Yeah I heard all that "well you should just quit," to which my reply was always 'well you should just mind your own business.' But the cigarettes I smoked, though ultra-lights, still had a bit of throat hit, which at that point was my main criteria -- does it actually feel like I'm smoking a cigarette? rather than sucking air through a straw. Now, I have this great replacement, and my asthma is definitely improved a great deal... but not gone, and it never will be, and certain kinds of stimuli trigger it horribly. So I have to be careful how hot, how much TH, and how much and how thick the vapor is. Lower ohm coils are nearly always hotter, and nearly always produce a great deal more vapor -- hence my problems with my Caterpillar.

I finally managed to build a coil for that thing that I can actually stand, and as long as the juice I'm using in the dripper has ZERO throat hit of its own, I can use my caterpillar to taste new stuff, but it'll never be my primary, just too much fiddling around -- I want to fill a tank and not worry about it until it's either empty, or it's time for me to drop the nic a little, as I do at night -- but even that last bit is easy now that I have 2 terrifically-working kayfuns (clones) -- I have a clear M-tank for day, 9-10mg, and a smoke M-tank for night, 6-7mg, so I just switch between them.

I also discovered recently that VG, even as little as 33%, just flat out smothers me -- even my rescue inhaler won't work if I can't inhale enough to get the medicine in there. So I'm back to about 80%-85% PG, and don't walk around feeling I have something in my chest that needs to be coughed up, and not feeling smothered and completely unable to breathe. PG is indeed very dehydrating, and my swollen feet and ankles from that dehydration are painful and a bit worrisome, but being unable to breathe is far worse, so I'll just have to deal with the PG dehydration, including swollen feet and puffy ankles, as best I can.

Andria

Say no more, I totally understand . I've "cloud chased" after a good workout before and I know the feeling. It's funny you mentioned VG bothering you because I was about to suggest some pure VG. It feels smoother to me, but I know that "lung coating" feeling your talking about for sure, I just don't have asthma so it feels more like it's just "coating the nicotine throat hit" if that makes sense.

It's funny how different blends effect different people, I always thought that juice was the same no matter what, and it turns out the higher PG I was vaping was what was giving me too much throat hit, and allowing the nicotine to be absorbed too quick (it very well could've been the high nicotine I was vaping though, I went down to 6mg, and it's smooth now whatever the mg level.).

First time I tried Virgin Vapor because I wanted to try an all VG it was a light-bulb moment. The difference to me was like PG is vaping a light vodka, and VG is like vaping a milkshake, just thicker and coated the nicotine in a smooth layer. I definitely know what you mean by the smothering feeling, if I vape it too hard, you can start to feel it build up.

 

[sedge]

26g
7wrap each
1.6 mm ID
0.38 ohm
CelluCotton Rayon wick

Projectile atty
BCV XXIX
Detouche DT
Highbrow Cheesecake 6mg 50/50