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Dave999

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You want the cotton snug but not tight (it expands when wet) in the coil. If the rba has a decent juice well, I trim my wick tails down so that there is just enough to reach the deck and slightly tuck under the coils. Lifting the coils up a bit was also good advice....no need to rebuild, just pull the wicks, insert your bit (or whatever you wrapped them on) and gently prise them up some. Where the coils are positioned in relation to the air holes will drastically change your vape. My preference is to have my coil directly in front of and level with the air hole
They are lined up with the duel air holes on the Patriot clone. The coils are also raised up giving plenty of room to tuck the wick underneath.
 
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I now exclusively use rayon. $12 or so at Sally's beauty supply will net a lifetime supply sized box :p
Do you have to boil it or anything like that? Or is it just 100% cotton? The kind I use is ready to go after you add some juice give it a little burn or time to soak up because at first it will have a slight cotton taste if the juice has not soaked up good into the wick. Also thank you for the great advice. I really appreciate the help.
 
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Yeah you are using way too much cotton. You're drowning your deck. They say you always want to see a little bit of deck down there. I especially would cut down if I were you using that expensive name brand "special" cotton.

Here's a build I did a little while ago, granted my coils are high and the well is probably much deeper than your patriot, you can get the idea of how the wicks almost just touch the deck and there's so much room under and around the coil.
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Thank you for the great advice. I really appreciate it.
 
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OK. I'll cut down on what I'm using. Actually for a big pack of the cotton bacon it's only $5 and some change. You might get close to 80 wicks out of that. It's pretty cheap for the amount you get.
I use Puffs Japanese organic cotton sheets. It's about $7 for 200 sheets. One sheet gives you about 5-6 wicks depending on your ID.

And I say "special" expensive cotton for that reason. There are plenty of "brands" of organic cotton out there just like there are brands of nichrome wire and I'm no one to say if one is better than the other or if they are really worth the price. But not too long ago when the cotton revolution started all everyone used and worshipped was Ko Gen Doh Japanese organic cotton. Puffs is said to be the exact same thing. It's slightly brown with little seeds in it so you can tell it's organic, no need to boil or whatever, no bleach. And I see these fancy new cottons like cotton bacon and native wicks and some of them look way too white to be organic. Just my 2 cents but like I said, $7 for 200 sheets of off white slightly brown fluffy cotton sheets ready to go.
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cant tell from your pic but looks like you have them quite low to the deck, if you raise them high you'll be able to fill the juice well with cotton and still be able to keep a real nice gap between the bottom of the coils and your cotton, you'll have better airflow around the whole of the coils, better flavour and clouds
Thank you also for the great advice. It's very appreciated.
 
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Do you have to boil it or anything like that? Or is it just 100% cotton? The kind I use is ready to go after you add some juice give it a little burn or time to soak up because at first it will have a slight cotton taste if the juice has not soaked up good into the wick. Also thank you for the great advice. I really appreciate the help.
No boiling needed....its not cotton, its rayon (also called cellucotton). It gives better Nic hit, better flavor production (imo), wicks faster then cotton, and easier to use (also my opinion).
No wet tshirt taste like some cotton before its broke in. The trick to it is learning how much to use....it doesn't expand when wet like cotton, so you pack your coils much tighter then you do when using cotton. The plus side is you can't hardly over pack your coil with rayon...if it doesn't deform your coil, your good to go. The only effect of using "too much" rayon I've found, is a slight nutty taste for the first couple of hits, which I find kinda pleasant :p
 
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Yeah you are using way too much cotton. You're drowning your deck. They say you always want to see a little bit of deck down there. I especially would cut down if I were you using that expensive name brand "special" cotton.

Here's a build I did a little while ago, granted my coils are high and the well is probably much deeper than your patriot, you can get the idea of how the wicks almost just touch the deck and there's so much room under and around the coil.
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Nice Clapton... It's one of the only builds I use now...
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So I got bored this morning and this happened...
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Not sure what it will do yet but we'll find out later.

Also, rayon junkie here too. Stupid cheap and almost impossible to over wick. Try to trim the ends of the wick after wicking to look like cheerleaders pony tails, it helps improve the wicking.

Good luck
 
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You dont need anything more then two hands to make this wire.
You dont even need to start at the end of the wires, you can start off in the middle and when you get to the end you spin the wire around and upside down and continue to finish the length.

3 strands 32g nichhrome.
made an effort not to tighten the braid in anyway.(pulling both ends at the same time or runnng something along the braid will tighten it up)
2.5mm id.
5 wraps.
0.5ohms.
65watts on the sigelei.
Hands down the most flavour ive had in a while without being overpowering, very clean taste.
 

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So I got bored this morning and this happened...
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Not sure what it will do yet but we'll find out later.

Also, rayon junkie here too. Stupid cheap and almost impossible to over wick. Try to trim the ends of the wick after wicking to look like cheerleaders pony tails, it helps improve the wicking.

Good luck
was gonna just say i cant see the pic but as soon as i go to reply the pic popped up lol

Nice job, there are so many variations of that kind of wire, i like it....
 

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So in your opinion, you think this stapled tiger has better flavor than a fused clapton? Without sacrificing performance? I like the dense warm vape that fused claptons provide. That's why I don't want to try braiding, heard it was more light and airy of a vape than claptons. Plus I don't have a vice or anything lol.

Anyway I have a quick question for you builders. So I was tightening down my favorite dual fused clapton in my twisted messes rda today because the resistance was hopping on my reader and then I heard the dreaded "click" like I had snapped the leads. But I put my screwdriver in and pulled and tugged and nothing came out. Even tried to knock the short ends out with tweezers and nothing budget. Heated it up, was heating evenly, then popped it back on the ohm reader to a steady reading. You think the click was nothing?


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yeah imo its better than the fused clapton in the flavour department but prob more of a dense vape with the fused.
Another coil that i think is a step up from it is this>>

but its always hard to say whats better cus a new coil will always to me anyway always taste better.

regards your wire click maybe just run with it if you have the steady reading now and when you come to redo your coils make sure you take your grub screws all the way out and clean the inside of the posts, which is always a good idea anyway as they dont half collect gunk from juice
 
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Nice Clapton... It's one of the only builds I use now...
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Thanks. I'm actually not having too good of a time with claptons. That build in the pic I only ended up using for a few hours before I ripped it out because the ramp up was too slow. And the claptons I built after that I found were way too poppy for me. I favor fused claptons now.


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You dont need anything more then two hands to make this wire.
You dont even need to start at the end of the wires, you can start off in the middle and when you get to the end you spin the wire around and upside down and continue to finish the length.

3 strands 32g nichhrome.
made an effort not to tighten the braid in anyway.(pulling both ends at the same time or runnng something along the braid will tighten it up)
2.5mm id.
5 wraps.
0.5ohms.
65watts on the sigelei.
Hands down the most flavour ive had in a while without being overpowering, very clean taste.
Beautiful slippy, simple braided?
 

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Has anyone tried using a guitar string to make coils on a mod?

They come in 100% nickle.

Pre wound.

Several gauges to choose from....

Just thinking out loud....

Was going to try that a year ago or so, but the only ones I could find have a steel core that the Nickel is wound around. Did you find some with a Nickel core?
 
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