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[Hans Wermhat]

Again fuzzy pic...wth??? Plume veil, CLT V2+ , and Rampage. All built wit 24G NiChrome at 3mm diameter. 1st 2 at 6 wraps, rampage at 4 wraps, but 3 coils. Not the biggest cloud makers, but easy on the batteries and decent flavor. My ohm meter is busted, but I'm guessin they are all somewhere just under .5ohms.

 

[vapero]

haven't been here for a while, every time I come back builds are getting much more complex...

I don't really know why but I haven't had the itch to try them, I'm happy with my simple coils
dual 4/5 loops 24g at .25 vaping perfectly

 

[jj6404]

haven't been here for a while, every time I come back builds are getting much more complex...

I don't really know why but I haven't had the itch to try them, I'm happy with my simple coils
dual 4/5 loops 24g at .25 vaping perfectly

Maybe because ignorance is bliss? I know before I ever tried a clapton I thought my 24g micros was all the flavor I ever wanted. The first time I tried a fused clapton I took a long big hit and coughed because the flavor was so mouthwatering. Now I can't build anything less [emoji45]and be happy with it .

BTW what's going on with your button there?
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[Hans Wermhat]

I tried the claptons. I didn't notice that much difference in the flavor. I did notice they take twice as long to heat up and drain my batteries 3 times a fast. Not a fan. 24G nichrome works just fine for me.

 

[vapero]

Maybe because ignorance is bliss? I know before I ever tried a clapton I thought my 24g micros was all the flavor I ever wanted. The first time I tried a fused clapton I took a long big hit and coughed because the flavor was so mouthwatering. Now I can't build anything less [emoji45]and be happy with it .

BTW what's going on with your button there?
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that's a solid walnut button, but didn't take the time to finish it

 

[jj6404]

I tried the claptons. I didn't notice that much difference in the flavor. I did notice they take twice as long to heat up and drain my batteries 3 times a fast. Not a fan. 24G nichrome works just fine for me.

Yeah because you probably were not using enough voltage to power them. I can make a dual coil clapton build at 0.3 ohms firing at 40 watts have no ramp up and twice the flavor as a 24g build running at 0.2 ohms that needs 50+ watts to work to its potential. That means the clapton build lets your battery last longer on a regulated device.

Are you using a mech? Obviously you need to build lower on a mech to avoid ramp up but they really shine even at higher resistances on a regulated device. Using a clapton build without enough voltage to power them correctly and then judging them based on that is like firing a 24g build on a half dead battery on a mech and then saying 24g micro coils suck because the ramp up is slow and the flavor is sub par.


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[Hans Wermhat]

Yep. Using a mech. 2x26650 parallel. Plenty of power. I can run .3 Ohm 24G builds all day, but it hates the clapton coils. Bateries crap out on me after like 3 or 4 hours max. I'm looking at upgrading to a regulated mod, but I can't justify the cost for a good 100W box. I've played around with 50W mods, and the performance seems sub-par to me. Probably because I'm trying to build like I would on a mech. I guess I just need to bite the bullet and spend the dough and play with it until I get it right.

 

[USMCotaku]

Yep. Using a mech. 2x26650 parallel. Plenty of power. I can run .3 Ohm 24G builds all day, but it hates the clapton coils. Bateries crap out on me after like 3 or 4 hours max. I'm looking at upgrading to a regulated mod, but I can't justify the cost for a good 100W box. I've played around with 50W mods, and the performance seems sub-par to me. Probably because I'm trying to build like I would on a mech. I guess I just need to bite the bullet and spend the dough and play with it until I get it right.

That set up has plenty of mah, but not enough voltage for a Clapton... They are really a build for a regulated device. Even a cheap istick 30 will push a 1.2 ohm Clapton (my perfered build) better then your dual parallel 26650

 

[Hans Wermhat]

I keep hearing that. Guess it's time to go shopping. Ugh. My ol' lady is gonna kill be pi$$ed. Lol!

 

[jj6404]

Yep. Using a mech. 2x26650 parallel. Plenty of power. I can run .3 Ohm 24G builds all day, but it hates the clapton coils. Bateries crap out on me after like 3 or 4 hours max. I'm looking at upgrading to a regulated mod, but I can't justify the cost for a good 100W box. I've played around with 50W mods, and the performance seems sub-par to me. Probably because I'm trying to build like I would on a mech. I guess I just need to bite the bullet and spend the dough and play with it until I get it right.

I save my mechs for my Billow V2, which happens to actually have claptons in it as well but they are just 5 or 6 wrap around 2mm 26gN80 with 36KA1 outer at 0.3 ohms maybe that's why there's no ramp up. I also use an atty with a fused clapton build at about 0.15 ohms on my unregulated box so there's negligible ramp up there. But I have 7 wrap fused claptons with 28g N80 and 26g N80 as the cores that I only use on my Sigelei 150w.

Yeah man a dual 26650 mech has plenty of power but I'm assuming it's wired in parallel so the voltage will only ever be 4.2 at its highest charge.

You should really try fused claptons. Since the core is parallel wires, the ramp up time is cut significantly down. I actually only use regular claptons if I can't fit a fused clapton in something.

And what prices are you seeing for 100w mods? My Sigelei 150w was a gift but I remember shopping for it for awhile and seeing it as low as $85 on vapingcheap.


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[jonny45378]

Decided to build a simple non sub ohm coil this time. I did a twisted 30 gauge kanthal build with 10 wraps on my veritas clone and it came out to 1.3 ohms. It vapes real nice at around 10-18 watts. I normally vape a lot higher between 25-75 watts but wanted to build a non juice hog coil [emoji14].

 

[Braaapp]

Wrapping your claptons with higher gauge wire will decrease the ramp time on a mech also. There's about a half second difference in ramp between a 24/30 and a 24/34 IME with dual .4Ω coils on a mech. With +36ga wrap the ramp time is nearly indistinguishable from a non-clapton coil of the same resistance.

 

[jj6404]

Wrapping your claptons with higher gauge wire will decrease the ramp time on a mech also. There's about a half second difference in ramp between a 24/30 and a 24/34 IME with dual .4Ω coils on a mech. With +36ga wrap the ramp time is nearly indistinguishable from a non-clapton coil of the same resistance.

Yeah. 36g KA1 for my wraps is my favorite right now. I can't imagine going thinner at the moment but we will see...maybe I'll do the 50g challenge one day lol.


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[jj6404]

Hope I don't get yelled at for posting this question/comment here but I figured since it's about builds it wouldn't be an issue. So the 7 wrap 2.5mm ID 28g N80/36g KA1 dual fused clapton has been my go to build lately especially in my twisted messes rda. It always reads around a 0.3 on my Sigelei on there. Recently I put the same build in my El Cabron rda and the resistance is reading 0.2 ohms on my Sigelei. I know it rounds and it's not as accurate as a standalone ohm reader (mine is out for repair). But I was wondering if the big silver plated positive post of the El Cabron has anything to do with the lower resistance.


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[Hans Wermhat]

I've wondered about that too. Seems like the longer post in my CLT V2+ has a higher resistance than my plume veil with the same build.Could be just a slight variance in the coils, but not sure.

 

[SLIPPY_EEL]

You ever notice how some attys seem real good at first but then after a few ml dripped through it it starts to become just a normal atty, ive had it happen to me a lot, some atty's collect juice in the posts and in and around the 510 connection lowering performance, it might only be a tiny bit of juice that gets in these areas But thats all it takes, its the same with mech mods when sometimes you over drip and you have juice running down inside the mod and the vape isnt as good. Every now and then i will break down everything and give it some TLC with washing liquid and hot water, i put washing liquid inside the posts after taking out the screws and take the 510 connection completly apart including the rubber or plastic tube flange that protects the +positive from the -negative, washing liquid everything then lots of hot water before a good shake off then a blow through with your superman lungs helps improve things

 

[RiceBurner95]

Wanted to try something different from my usual simple build. A fused Clapton, 30 gauge on 2 stands of 26 gauge. 6 wraps around 3mm for a 0.45 single coil. Huge vapor, and pretty nice flavor, I must say.

 

[Braaapp]

You ever notice how some attys seem real good at first but then after a few ml dripped through it it starts to become just a normal atty, ive had it happen to me a lot, some atty's collect juice in the posts and in and around the 510 connection lowering performance

I think it's just placebo effects as I get the same from a brand new atty. When I throw all the vape hardware in an ultrasonic weekly I don't get that incredibly shocking performance boost feeling like I do with a brand new RDA, and the newer RDAs subconsciously get sent to the back/middle of the rotation while the long-term favorites resume their spot at the top.

 

[RiceBurner95]

Well, I've gone down that rabbit hole... Twisted 26 wrapped in 30. Twisted Clapton. Better flavor and vapor than a regular or fused Clapton. Tons of pockets for juice to hide in this coil. Cool little 4 strand stagger from the relatively large 30 gauge wrap.

5 wraps on 3mm, for a 0.52 safe build.

 

[jj6404]

Wanted to try something different from my usual simple build. A fused Clapton, 30 gauge on 2 stands of 26 gauge. 6 wraps around 3mm for a 0.45 single coil. Huge vapor, and pretty nice flavor, I must say.

What's your usual simple build? I think your 30 gauge is too big for a fused clapton. I remember my first clapton was like 28g over 26g or something huge like that because it was all I had. Now this is one of my go to builds. I think you need to use at least 34g for your wraps to get the best performance out of a fused clapton.

This is another fresh build of my go to 26g N80/36g KA1 that I did this morning. Had to rip out the spaced fused claptons I was trying in there because...well because they sucked lol.

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