Project Platinum Revival Beta Testing
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Mine arrived today....the extra silicone ring threw me for a loop until I looked back over the thread.
FIrst impressions...how easier the first fill is. Compared to all the other cartos I have used, the first fill is much easier and faster. Previously the first five or so drops would pool at the top waiting to be absorbed. The wait was reduced a great deal this time around.
Woot!
FIrst impressions...how easier the first fill is. Compared to all the other cartos I have used, the first fill is much easier and faster. Previously the first five or so drops would pool at the top waiting to be absorbed. The wait was reduced a great deal this time around.
Woot!
Right on guys! I'm so glad to hear your loving them!
We sold out of the standard size Punched models, but I do have a few reserves to go up. The unpunched version didn't really move surprisingly enough.
We're going to have the Punched go back into production to keep a steady stock and now focus on the 510 Fusion while we wait for the RY4 to come in.
We sold out of the standard size Punched models, but I do have a few reserves to go up. The unpunched version didn't really move surprisingly enough.
We're going to have the Punched go back into production to keep a steady stock and now focus on the 510 Fusion while we wait for the RY4 to come in.
510 fusion? How about a little option buddy. Everything you have is 510 and folks are waiting on the 801 Mega punched. JMO
I'm using the 2.5 ohm Platinum K (standard size) in IBTanked tanks and I also had issues with flooding at first. Whenever my tank drops below 2/3 full, my carto floods. Very annoying, but I was able to resolve the issue by sliding the carto down until the holes were outside the tank, then blowing through my drip tip very hard to get all the excess juice out (I blow the juice back into the bottle so it doesn't go to waste). I then filled the tank up 100%, slid the carto back up into the tank, and it works perfectly until it gets down to 2/3 full again. Kinda sucks only being able to vape a third of a tank before having to re-fill it, but the vapor and flavor are good. I just make sure to keep the tank topped off and/or switch to one of my other tanks when it drops below the tipping point.
For what it's worth, this doesn't happen with the Nitro single-punch cartos until the tank is damn near empty.
Edit - I am not using the grommet / juice blocker, either. Tried using it - no change.
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Hmmm, wonder if the punch holes are a little too big? I just punched and tanked a fresh one from my beta batch...I'll let you know if it leaks. None neither of the first two betas I used did. I'm using an M1A1 tank from Notcigs.
The grommet in the top shouldn't make a difference one way or the other as per leaking. It's to keep juice from getting in your mouth
The grommet in the top shouldn't make a difference one way or the other as per leaking. It's to keep juice from getting in your mouth
Anarchy, you put the liquid that's been used (translate: heated and reheated) back into your fresh liquid bottle? I have a "thing" about that. I wouldn't, but that's me. I believe the liquid in motion goes thru physical changes by the constant heating and cooling process, and also has interactive contact with a coil that is becoming "used" (gunked up and caramelized and crusted). For me that's not something I'd want to contaminate fresh liquid.
Also, from my knowledge of karto tanks, it seems to work best to leave some air space at the top for the vacuum effect (negative pressure and all that scientific jazz). I wonder if perhaps you'd try it with a little more air space to see if the leaking still occurs?
I normally vape a karto tank down to the bone. I can vape it with zero extra liquid in the tank as there's still that mil (or so) in the karto itself.
Like 17 cents there.
Most people search for and only think about where the juice is leaking out from. If the top seal isn't good it loses the vacuum and juice will leak out everywhere it can. Air in means juice out. I've had bad lower seals and never leaked a drop. It's like sticking a straw in a glass of liquid and putting your thumb over the top. You can pull it out and the liquid remains in the straw from the vacuum but if you remove your thumb the straw empties. If you want to find any leaks. fill you tank. look in the mirror and puff real hard on it and if there's a leak you will see air bubbles coming from the leaking point. Might have to turn it a few times and try again as it might be on the opposite side you're looking at.
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Anarchy, you put the liquid that's been used (translate: heated and reheated) back into your fresh liquid bottle? I have a "thing" about that. I wouldn't, but that's me. I believe the liquid in motion goes thru physical changes by the constant heating and cooling process, and also has interactive contact with a coil that is becoming "used" (gunked up and caramelized and crusted). For me that's not something I'd want to contaminate fresh liquid.
Also, from my knowledge of karto tanks, it seems to work best to leave some air space at the top for the vacuum effect (negative pressure and all that scientific jazz). I wonder if perhaps you'd try it with a little more air space to see if the leaking still occurs?
I normally vape a karto tank down to the bone. I can vape it with zero extra liquid in the tank as there's still that mil (or so) in the karto itself.
Like 17 cents there.
Haha, I appreciate your 17 cents!
I vape organic / all natural juices from very large bottles. I agree that the juice probably goes through some sort of chemical change when it's subjected to the coil in the carto, but having to blow juice back into the bottle is so rare I personally believe it won't hurt anything. In fact, I can't remember the last time I had to do this, as I hadn't had a floodeded carto in quite some time. Either way, I convince myself that once the bottle is shaken up whatever small amount of yuck was in the carto will have minimal effect on the large amount of clean liquid left in the bottle.
As far as the amount of air at the top of the tank (or to 5card's point about flooding), I don't want to turn this into a negative comparison of one carto vs. another...but I don't experience the issue at all with Boge / Smoktech cartos, nor with the single punch Nitro cartos from Ikenvape. I can vape a tank until it's empty, or at least until the liquid drops below the holes and I start to get dry hits once in a while. I tried swapping out my o-rings and washers on my IBTanked end caps, but the issue persists on more than one tank (I have 6).
I tend to chain vape a few times throughout the day (on breaks at work, etc). I don't know much about physics, but my guess is that the tank drops below 2/3 full, I heat the liquid up a lot and it thins out a little, then the air pressure that's built up at the top of the tank pushes too much juice into the carto and I start getting gurgling. I'm assuming - based on my limited testing thus far - that the issue is due to the size of the holes in the Platinum K punch, because I don't have any issues with dual / single punch cartos with smaller holes.
This is especially strange considering I'm using 100% VG juice. It's pretty thick. There is always the possibility that I'm doing something wrong here (it's happened before), but I'm pretty experienced with carto tanks. In any case, the vapor / flavor of the Platinum K makes it a worthwhile inconvenience to top off a few tanks once a day. I'm thoroughly enjoying them so far.
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Haha, I appreciate your 17 cents!
I vape organic / all natural juices from very large bottles. I agree that the juice probably goes through some sort of chemical change when it's subjected to the coil in the carto, but having to blow juice back into the bottle is so rare I personally believe it won't hurt anything. In fact, I can't remember the last time I had to do this, as I hadn't had a floodeded carto in quite some time. Either way, I convince myself that once the bottle is shaken up whatever small amount of yuck was in the carto will have minimal effect on the large amount of clean liquid left in the bottle.
As far as the amount of air at the top of the tank (or to 5card's point about flooding), I don't want to turn this into a negative comparison of one carto vs. another...but I don't experience the issue at all with Boge / Smoktech cartos, nor with the single punch Nitro cartos from Ikenvape. I can vape a tank until it's empty, or at least until the liquid drops below the holes and I start to get dry hits once in a while. I tried swapping out my o-rings and washers on my IBTanked end caps, but the issue persists on more than one tank (I have 6).
I tend to chain vape a few times throughout the day (on breaks at work, etc). I don't know much about physics, but my guess is that the tank drops below 2/3 full, I heat the liquid up a lot and it thins out a little, then the air pressure that's built up at the top of the tank pushes too much juice into the carto and I start getting gurgling. I'm assuming - based on my limited testing thus far - that the issue is due to the size of the holes in the Platinum K punch, because I don't have any issues with dual / single punch cartos with smaller holes.
This is especially strange considering I'm using 100% VG juice. It's pretty thick. There is always the possibility that I'm doing something wrong here (it's happened before), but I'm pretty experienced with carto tanks. In any case, the vapor / flavor of the Platinum K makes it a worthwhile inconvenience to top off a few tanks once a day. I'm thoroughly enjoying them so far.
Welp, you may just know more about kartos than I! (and if so..... I want some change back.)
Isaac, I'd be interested in your take since you are in fact the karto master. Like you, Anarchy, I am not interested in any negative comparisons, but perhaps Isaac can enlighten us as to the differences between various other kartos and why you might be having probs with this particular style.
When you chain vape, are you hitting it with short, hard pulls, or long slow drags? I do recall that info from long ago in terms of dealing with a flooded or leaky/gurgly karto. The short, hard pulls are going to pull even more liquid into the karto, so the trick was to remember to do long, slow pulls instead.
I'm prolly preachin' to the choir, tho, right?
Welp, you may just know more about kartos than I! (and if so..... I want some change back.)
Isaac, I'd be interested in your take since you are in fact the karto master. Like you, Anarchy, I am not interested in any negative comparisons, but perhaps Isaac can enlighten us as to the differences between various other kartos and why you might be having probs with this particular style.
When you chain vape, are you hitting it with short, hard pulls, or long slow drags? I do recall that info from long ago in terms of dealing with a flooded or leaky/gurgly karto. The short, hard pulls are going to pull even more liquid into the karto, so the trick was to remember to do long, slow pulls instead.
I'm prolly preachin' to the choir, tho, right?
When I chain vape I take long, slow drags one after another (double inhales, continuously). I'd say my drags are typically about 4 seconds long, and my pull is never very hard...but my "time on" the fire button is substantial over a short period of time. I have to get back to work pretty quickly, so I try to get in as much as possible in a short window. I assume this causes the juice to get hotter (and thinner) than it normally is if I were only pulling once every 20-30 seconds as I normally would when vaping. This is fine when the tank is full, but with these new cartos it seems to cause issues if the tank is below 60% full.
So far we've only seen two people reporting this, so perhaps it's a fluke. After I've run through more than 3 cartos I'll have a better idea of consistency. The beta Platinum cartos worked flawlessly, but I had to punch those myself (roughly 1mm holes).
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I'm thinking the same thing, sort of a combination of Kd's and your theories, Anarchy. I take double long pulls on mine, with no leaking so far, but I am still using a beta that I punched myself. With the saturation being so good on these, I bet the hole is just a tad too big.
Isaac...?
Isaac...?
So I bought 20 of these.
I'm no newbie to carts. I am somewhat of an Iken fanboy (wrote a really favorable review on the nitro).
But these things, I won't buy again. After about 4 pulls, the cart floods, juice all over my provari. You can see bubbles coming into the tank like a .... whenever you take a hit. *way* too much flow.
I'm no newbie to carts. I am somewhat of an Iken fanboy (wrote a really favorable review on the nitro).
But these things, I won't buy again. After about 4 pulls, the cart floods, juice all over my provari. You can see bubbles coming into the tank like a .... whenever you take a hit. *way* too much flow.
I didn't have that problem. Sorry about your problem though. The ones I tried were great. Sounds like you're getting air leaking in so there's no vacuum. JMO
Like anything else in this industry everyone has their likes and dislikes.
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these cartos are great. I really like the draw...smooth smooth smooth...juice tastes real good! great work ikenvape! vaping a fresh 2.5 ohm at only 3.4 volts and i swear i was vaping at 3.7 volts! just ordered tons more i am so happy with these!
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I can definitely understand your frustration. Over the weekend I had a few mishaps with a 50/50 PG/VG mixture that left juice all over my Provari. I should have known, honestly - since I get gurgling with 100% VG. I'd really love to give these a try with dual 1mm holes.
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