Provape - A New Respect

[Vlad1]

I am not trying to convince you your opinion is wrong. However, I do believe that you do the vaping community a disservice by equating all mods with the same level of safety and quality simply because you do not want to "scare" new vapers.

I'm not sure who your quoting "because you do not want to "scare" new vapers." but I'm relatively certain it is not me.

You have apparently confused who is making claims of safety. You are in fact the one making the statements that the Provari is safer product. But after repeated requests and ample opportunity you have failed to provide any data to substantiate your claims. You've merely meandered about dropping a link or pointing to someone who says this or that. That is not conclusive objective data.


On the other hand I have stated.
"I'm very confident there have been no studies on the quality control processes of competing e-cig or e-cig accessory manufactures at this point in time to do any type of safety comparison of any company."

And

"I have no data at this time regarding all manufacturers and if any of them utilize "sub standard components" or do not "undergo strict testing" and in fact never referenced any type of comparisons to other manufactures or clones at all regarding quality, support, safety or durability. If you have this please feel free to reply with the links to this data."


Your obviously unable to substantiate your claims at this point so you have repeatedly attempted to redirect the subject.

Your inability to substantiate your statements leaves them holding no value. And me wasting time trying to pry this secret data you represent will only have you spewing off into some other topic so I bid you adieu.

 

[slappy3139]

A provari is a regulated device with a ton of built in safety features, isn't that one of the primary reasons for buying a regulated device, for the safety benefit? Not just a provari but any regulated device.

 

[p.opus]

I'm not sure who your quoting "because you do not want to "scare" new vapers." but I'm relatively certain it is not me.

You have apparently confused who is making claims of safety. You are in fact the one making the statements that the Provari is safer product. But after repeated requests and ample opportunity you have failed to provide any data to substantiate your claims. You've merely meandered about dropping a link or pointing to someone who says this or that. That is not conclusive objective data.


On the other hand I have stated.
"I'm very confident there have been no studies on the quality control processes of competing e-cig or e-cig accessory manufactures at this point in time to do any type of safety comparison of any company."

And

"I have no data at this time regarding all manufacturers and if any of them utilize "sub standard components" or do not "undergo strict testing" and in fact never referenced any type of comparisons to other manufactures or clones at all regarding quality, support, safety or durability. If you have this please feel free to reply with the links to this data."


Your obviously unable to substantiate your claims at this point so you have repeatedly attempted to redirect the subject.

Your inability to substantiate your statements leaves them holding no value. And me wasting time trying to pry this secret data you represent will only have you spewing off into some other topic so I bid you adieu.

What conclusive data would you have me gather? Return rates? Bills of Material? Blueprints? Test Plans and test cases?

You and I both know that is not available. So let's just stop shoveling bull feces around and get to the point shall we?

Do you honestly believe that a device that continuously monitors and regulates the temperature of the battery and limits the discharge rate and depth of discharge of the battery is NO safer than a product that does none of these things?

Do you honestly believe that Chinese manufacturers use components that are of equivalent quality and durability as those that are used in a ProVari?

Do you honestly believe that a Chinese manufactured mod undergoes the same rigorous 100% per unit testing that was demonstrated in the PROVAPE video?

If you honestly believe these things, then I'm sorry, I cant help you.....

 

[Baditude]

He doesn't know what you are talking about. He likely never watched the video.

 

[DPLongo22]

I fear the day may come when we look back on arguments such as these, wishing we could be having them again.

Join CASAA and join together (in force). Who CARES what others prefer? To paraphrase a well known axiom:
"If it ain't Marlboro, don't fix it."

Rome is burning, folks, and we're fiddling.

Regards,
~Nero

 

[LDS714]

Loved Phil's video! As usual it was entertaining, informative, and comes across as a 'regular guy' with a passion for vaping.

Especially liked the turntable analogy, very similar to my own Sure SM57 microphone analogy.

 

[Katya]

I fear the day may come when we look back on arguments such as these, wishing we could be having them again.

Join CASAA and join together (in force). Who CARES what others prefer? To paraphrase a well known axiom:
"If it ain't Marlboro, don't fix it."

Rome is burning, folks, and we're fiddling.

Regards,
~Nero

Indeed.............

Well, maybe we'll still be allowed to debate the finer points of a penstyle device? 110 vs. 180 mAh batteries? A cartomizer? Blue foam mods?

 

[DPLongo22]

Indeed.............

Well, maybe we'll still be allowed to debate the finer points of a penstyle device? 110 vs. 180 mAh batteries? A cartomizer? Blue foam mods?

I prefer the soft foam to the hard. While the hard foam allows for slightly better conductivity, soft feels much better in my hand. Therefore everyone should like the soft foam too, and agree that the hard foam (stinks).

 

[KenD]

I don't know. I think those who know their juices, toppers and coils and who can get a great vape are the 'advanced' vapers. Sub ohming seems to be for kids who watch youtube videos of people blowing clouds. As far as expense, reading through the threads, most seem to have several $100 in FasatTech gear...

But, yes, for those who vape to not smoke, ProVari is the ideal mod...

I'm sure the Provari is great, but why the need to ridicule people who choose to take another route? You know that sub ohm is everything below 1 ohm right, and that 1 ohm isn't some kind of a magical barrier? To each their own, and as long as you're happy and do it safely, vape on.

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[caged]

Any word on the watts and ohms for the PV3??

 

[AnsonJames]

Because they mentioned 'safety' in Phil's video I don't think it'll be a crazy sub ohm or a high wattage device.
I'd love to know myself.

 

[caged]

Because they mentioned 'safety' in Phil's video I don't think it'll be a crazy sub ohm or a high wattage device.
I'd love to know myself.

With built in battery protection, why wouldn't it be much safer than a mech?

 

[KenD]

Wanted to add that while I'm not looking to buy a Provari I'm incredibly curious as to what the v3 will bring to the table. Like Christmas, although I won't be getting a gift


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[AnsonJames]

With built in battery protection, why wouldn't it be much safer than a mech?

Very good point.

 

[Kellysleep]

Ok so I'm a little late to the debate/party but here is my two cents! First thank you PBusardo for taking the time to go to Provape and making this video for us to see. Now I own 2 reg 2.5 provari a 2.5 mini and a Provape 1 and I love them all and would never sell them and am excited to see what is to come next! I am not expecting a huge change they are doing something very right at Provape with all the brains they have working there there is an obvious reason they have chosen so stay understated and simple why because it works and if god forbid you do something stupid like drop it, dunk it in the toilet or pool, run it over with your car it will still work! Can't say that about any Chinese mod! So if you don't feel like spending your money then ok don't your free to keep wasting it but do not tell me my choice is outdated it's designed that way to keep working long after others have failed!