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i've thought more on the Protege though, to add to the discussion. i know i'm one of the first to say that using 5v is night and day compared to standard 3.7v ecig batteries, but some days i do find myself just wanting to chain vape. i also can't stand to not buy new and cool things, so i'm fighting myself DAILY not to buy a manual 510 or even some of the new manual 901 batteries, so this thing needs to come out quick. i don't need a gaggle of devices that i'll totally stop using once i get something like this!

If you already have the Prodigy, why not buy the other switch and batteries which will allow you to vape for 2-3 days on a single charge at 3.7v.? Just a thought so you can still sue the device that you already have. :)
 

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My money says they'll work but at 6-7V as I don't belive the protege is being designed with a resistored switch. With a resistored switch they would be about the same as the Prodigy but about 1/3 the run time = back to changing batteries every hour or so. A resistored switch would also likely extend the protege body...

My take is... A longer (resistored) Protetege that only runs an hour or two is less desireable than the smaller 6 hr. version.

Oh, I know. I just know in a pinch I can handle 6v. I'm just thinking, a very small portable 6v emergency PV would rock in a glovebox, or the vest pocket of a suit jacket. And it *would* be tiny as hell too. Plus, you'd be future proof in the sense that *when* reliable half-AA size rechargable batteries that have decent mAH are developed, you'd already have a micro mod for high voltage vaping. : ) The idea is intriquing. If people have no problems dealing with 1 1/2 hours of battery on a 510, they'd surely crawl over cracked glass for two hours at 6v in something that tiny.

EDIT: Plus, I could easily make a 1-to-2 adapter wired for series, and do a compact dual atomizer mini. : ) That idea is very appealing
 
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If you already have the Prodigy, why not buy the other switch and batteries which will allow you to vape for 2-3 days on a single charge at 3.7v.? Just a thought so you can still sue the device that you already have. :)

yeah, see i thought about that too. i'm in one of those "i want to try this" mood, so i was actually thinking, i've never tried an 801, so i think i'm going to get the 801 adapter and try those, and from the rave reviews of the 510, i was thinking i'd wait for the protege and try the 510 with that :)

best of both worlds right? that and it seems most people "think" the 901 and 510 are pretty comparable, but that the 801 is a tad better at higher voltage.

if that logic makes any sense...haha.
 

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Question.... They make those half-AA size primary camera batteries.... For an emergency device, could you put two of these in a Protege and do 6v vaping?

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Varta CR 1/2 AA Battery, half the size fo a standard AA battery

I'm trying to justify one of these....

It appears that countless people are continuing to use a 510 (or something else) instead of a Prodigy, because they think the Prodigy is too large to be a good "bar hopping" PV.

If Steve would use these batteries and add a switch to the Protege to make this a 5V device, then it might unleash a torrent of sales.

Unfortunately, it could also mean more lengthy delays as demand again overwhelms Puresmoker's rate of production.

Its all kind of a moot point, though, because it doesn't sound like Steve is very excited about this idea. :(
 

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yeah, see i thought about that too. i'm in one of those "i want to try this" mood, so i was actually thinking, i've never tried an 801, so i think i'm going to get the 801 adapter and try those, and from the rave reviews of the 510, i was thinking i'd wait for the protege and try the 510 with that :)

best of both worlds right? that and it seems most people "think" the 901 and 510 are pretty comparable, but that the 801 is a tad better at higher voltage.

if that logic makes any sense...haha.

Ahhh, I understand. I am using a regular 510 now and I am pretty happy with it. I will have a Prodigy here soon and also a Protege. Both in the 510 and 801 versions just to have a variety. :)
 

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It appears that countless people are continuing to use a 510 (or something else) instead of a Prodigy, because they think the Prodigy is too large to be a good "bar hopping" PV.

If Steve would use these batteries and add a switch to the Protege to make this a 5V device, then it might unleash a torrent of sales.

Unfortunately, it could also mean more lengthy delays as demand again overwhelms Puresmoker's rate of production.

Its all kind of a moot point, though, because it doesn't sound like Steve is very excited about this idea. :(


Steve could always come out with a 3rd one. LOL :D
 

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I sort of thought that Prodigy was too big for "bar hopping"... until I started holding it like a cigar. Now I have no problem taking it out and about. Sure, it's purely psychological, but once I started holding it between my fingers and thumb rather than wrapping my whole hand around it, everything just fell into place.
 

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It appears that countless people are continuing to use a 510 (or something else) instead of a Prodigy, because they think the Prodigy is too large to be a good "bar hopping" PV.

If Steve would use these batteries and add a switch to the Protege to make this a 5V device, then it might unleash a torrent of sales.

Unfortunately, it could also mean more lengthy delays as demand again overwhelms Puresmoker's rate of production.

Its all kind of a moot point, though, because it doesn't sound like Steve is very excited about this idea. :(

Tesc .... I'm not excited because they don't make the above batteries in Rechargeable form .... and they can get quite expensive for regular batts -- $5-7/per batt = $15/day just in batteries ... :(
 

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wtf, a 1/2 AA battery??

they aren't following logic very well on sizing them. they get smaller when the letters are combine right? AA AAA AAAA (yes, quad A is super slim) so this doesn't even work for using letters, unles it's like...an A.
Fractional sized cells are common in certain circles - I've got a mess of 4/5A for instance. The fraction refers to approximate length.
 

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Also, they seem to have recommended maximum current of 70mA, while typical ecig draws 1A=1000mA. (3.7V/3.7Ohm). Make sure you get all the details before trying to use this battery in any ecig device.


Another note, you'll notice the positive and negative ends on that 1/2 AA batt are swapped. I was aware they weren't rechargeable, hence my "emergency 6v PV" thoughs, but I've really been thinking about how people are ok with 510 batts only lasting minus-2 hours because they recharge in about an hour. A smaller 5v PV that's more pocketable but only has a few hours of battery could become very popular in light of how well the 510 does.

On another note: I don't care too much either. I've actually started holding my Prodigy like a cigar also for some reason. It's very comfortable using it that way. I also tuck it in my shirt pocket like you would with a cigar. I'm still madly in love with this thing.
 
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Running a 510 atomizer on a Protege would offer a number of advantages. Durability, longer battery life, user replaceable batteries... The 510 at 3.7v is great, but it only operates in its optimal zone for about an hour or less for me. I'd love to have a battery solution that amped that up to three or four hours.
 

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Running a 510 atomizer on a Protege would offer a number of advantages. Durability, longer battery life, user replaceable batteries... The 510 at 3.7v is great, but it only operates in its optimal zone for about an hour or less for me. I'd love to have a battery solution that amped that up to three or four hours.

According to a message from Steve, the Protege should last 7-8 hours at 3.7v. :D
 

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maybe i should explain what i do while bar hopping.

i'm usually talking to people, being nudged around while people squeeze next to me to order (as i sit at the bar), or having people socially molest me with hugs and such, so most of the time i'm not just "sitting still."

the issue i run into is, it isn't the size of the Prodigy, it's that it's best used with dripping. it gets a little cumbersome while shuffling with everything going on around me. one of the best nights i had with an ecig was first off with the 401 when it wasn't loud enough to set them off, and then with a 901 when the straw mod worked properly. i didn't have to bother messing with the cart or fluid while i was out, and that's the level i'd like to find. er, balance, not level.

i've said before, vaping at 5v is top notch. but with the protege being 3.7 (and a "real" 3.7 at that) i may just have to adjust my juice levels and boost hit and flavor. what i'm hoping to gain is something sturdy with long life, that will possibly run well with a cart (tea bagged or straw mod) that i can use for a good amount of time with little maintenance.

now again, disclaimer, none of these things are the fault of the ecig, just the nature of the beast. so no, not complaints, just me being aware of what i'd "like" to have.

it's a real problem being spoiled to 5v. :)
 

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it's a real problem being spoiled to 5v. :)

Hey Flitz. I feel your pain. It is a problem. At this point, it is hard for me to for me use anything less, but I miss the small form factor of the 901. I would shell out some bucks for a small form factor 5V ecig. I don't mind changing batteries relatively frequently.

As for the juice issue, the first person to come out with a 5V PV with a good "auto juice loading" feature is going to be rich. I would drop several hundred for one right now.

(I vape 5ml of juice a day, so an "auto juice loading" feature would be even more valuable to me than a smaller form factor.)
 

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Flitzanu - Have you decided on the 801 adapter yet? I can go for quite awhile with an 801 and cart w/PTB filler. Looking at the time now I realize 2 things, 1 I really need to go to bed and 2 it's been well over an hour since my last refill. I say refill instead of topping off because with the PTB I'm putting in something like 30-35 drops when needed. We're talking sitting at the PC vaping away.

For the record I'm using 5V.
 

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Flitzanu - Have you decided on the 801 adapter yet? I can go for quite awhile with an 801 and cart w/PTB filler. Looking at the time now I realize 2 things, 1 I really need to go to bed and 2 it's been well over an hour since my last refill. I say refill instead of topping off because with the PTB I'm putting in something like 30-35 drops when needed. We're talking sitting at the PC vaping away.

For the record I'm using 5V.

i am interested. what is PTB filler?
 
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