Rayon Wick - Better Flow, Flavor, Longevity, and Nic Hit!! - Pt.2

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JeremyR

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I know this is probably addressed somewhere in the thread, but I haven't found it..... the wick in my Aromamizer v2 gets dark (almost black in places) with the first tank. The juice is not dark. What does this mean?

It's probably from touching the chamber walls. You typically want to avoid that and have at least a tiny gap. The thing to do is experiment by trimming the dark portions off the wick... Always tinker while it's in use to see the difference. Or lower/ move the coil a tad away from walls next time

A dark wick in spots means too much wick in that spot.. You need to Cut it.. Uneven color side to side shows an imbalance.
 

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After a @disley recommendation I bought some of the Feltfine Tencel. What a wonderful looking material. Lovely long fibres and beautiful to touch. I am not sure about how clean it it so I have washed some and will let you know how I go when I wick something this afternoon.


It's like rapunzel's hair. Beautiful yes.. Wicking difficult... It's too similar to ramie for me. Stiffens up when wet and very hard to get the right amount in the coil...

Its Rayon but its just not the same as carded fibers we use.. Much more user friendly.

Some have used it with success, it's possible.. Just not worth it for me... Posts about tencel are in the first thread at the beginning before Sally's was discovered.
 

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Been a month now. Now that I'm at home all day I'm vaping a lot more. I do a 3ml refill on all 3 STMs at least once a day. I did take one apart. Coil had a little buildup but the wick looked fine. Pulled the wick and pulsed then brushed. Doesn't seem to vape right. I think the wire distorts or something from the dry heat. Looks like the end loops are larger than the middle. I think I will just put new coils in from now on.

I tried dry burning, too, Paul, and gave it up as not worth the effort. I use Ti coils so I had to be careful with the heat. It took forever, even with picking at things between burns/rinses. Then the flavor was just "off". Was easier, and faster, to wind a new coil, wick it up and be done with it. With the life span of Ti/rayon in a TC device it certainly doesn't need doing very often at all.

Wish me luck. My wife is a tootle puffer but I have been slowly, and gently, getting her onto more durable stuff than pre-built coil cartridges. I've got her using Fogger V4.1s with kanthal and rayon and she likes that, but has a habit of taking a "double hit" with a pause between them. Problem is she holds the fire button down the whole time and the coils get too hot and gunk prematurely.

I built a Proto ERM case with a DNA75 and put an FEV V3 on top with a titanium coil (photos in the "Mike & Tibs Mods thread). I'm hoping she like it and that it extends her coil life a lot. She does like the ERM+ and this is a lot smaller. We shall see later this evening.
 

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Yes, pretty much just the top. Flavor isn't affected. I'll quit fretting about it. ;)

It might be vapor settling back down on you wick. If so, after-draw is critical to clear the chamber and cool the coil. You have to remember to do it at first, but after a while it becomes a habit and you never even realize your doing it. For me, it really helps with coil gunking and wick longevity.
 

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I tried dry burning, too, Paul, and gave it up as not worth the effort. I use Ti coils so I had to be careful with the heat. It took forever, even with picking at things between burns/rinses. Then the flavor was just "off". Was easier, and faster, to wind a new coil, wick it up and be done with it. With the life span of Ti/rayon in a TC device it certainly doesn't need doing very often at all.

Wish me luck. My wife is a tootle puffer but I have been slowly, and gently, getting her onto more durable stuff than pre-built coil cartridges. I've got her using Fogger V4.1s with kanthal and rayon and she likes that, but has a habit of taking a "double hit" with a pause between them. Problem is she holds the fire button down the whole time and the coils get too hot and gunk prematurely.

I built a Proto ERM case with a DNA75 and put an FEV V3 on top with a titanium coil (photos in the "Mike & Tibs Mods thread). I'm hoping she like it and that it extends her coil life a lot. She does like the ERM+ and this is a lot smaller. We shall see later this evening.

I woke up the other day to a mod with an RSST sitting on my keyboard with a postit stating "tastes burnt". Popped the cap off and found no wick in the coil and a burnt tip sticking out of the wick hole. I guess that would taste bad. Still using kanthal for her.

Hoping that the two gennie styles that I ordered will be easier to maintain for her.
 

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Alright, now that I have fixed the burning taste that occasionally came with the help of @JeremyR, I have put about 150 ml through my boreas. The flavor is still coming out strong and I am working on resisting my boredom and rebuilding. I think that I do prefer the side airflow for the ss builds.

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How was yours coiled & wicked & how did you fix? I finally built my Boreas today. I used 3.5mm, 4mm was too close to the post, 26/32 Claptons .95 ohm decided to try single coil. Pretty cool with the coil going across the deck. Only 2 holes on the air flow open. First wick tails I guess were too short I thinned them out first, started leaking after about an hour or so, I rewicked leaving a little longer tails also thinned out a little first. So far so good. Fingers crossed.
 

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I woke up the other day to a mod with an RSST sitting on my keyboard with a postit stating "tastes burnt". Popped the cap off and found no wick in the coil and a burnt tip sticking out of the wick hole. I guess that would taste bad. Still using kanthal for her.

Hoping that the two gennie styles that I ordered will be easier to maintain for her.
Lol that's pretty funny! What gennie's did you order?
 

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I tried dry burning, too, Paul, and gave it up as not worth the effort. I use Ti coils so I had to be careful with the heat. It took forever, even with picking at things between burns/rinses. Then the flavor was just "off". Was easier, and faster, to wind a new coil, wick it up and be done with it. With the life span of Ti/rayon in a TC device it certainly doesn't need doing very often at all.

Wish me luck. My wife is a tootle puffer but I have been slowly, and gently, getting her onto more durable stuff than pre-built coil cartridges. I've got her using Fogger V4.1s with kanthal and rayon and she likes that, but has a habit of taking a "double hit" with a pause between them. Problem is she holds the fire button down the whole time and the coils get too hot and gunk prematurely.

I built a Proto ERM case with a DNA75 and put an FEV V3 on top with a titanium coil (photos in the "Mike & Tibs Mods thread). I'm hoping she like it and that it extends her coil life a lot. She does like the ERM+ and this is a lot smaller. We shall see later this evening.
Wow that's nice! Wanna come over & set me up? Lol, just joking.
 

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It might be vapor settling back down on you wick. If so, after-draw is critical to clear the chamber and cool the coil. You have to remember to do it at first, but after a while it becomes a habit and you never even realize your doing it. For me, it really helps with coil gunking and wick longevity.

I've been trying to get into the habit of the after-draw. I'm getting there.
 

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How was yours coiled & wicked & how did you fix? I finally built my Boreas today. I used 3.5mm, 4mm was too close to the post, 26/32 Claptons .95 ohm decided to try single coil. Pretty cool with the coil going across the deck. Only 2 holes on the air flow open. First wick tails I guess were too short I thinned them out first, started leaking after about an hour or so, I rewicked leaving a little longer tails also thinned out a little first. So far so good. Fingers crossed.
I did dual 2.5 mm 9 wrap, with angle cut .27 ohm

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After draw? Is that like after glow? :blink:

So you mean a bit of a puff after the puff, with no power?

I never had name for it, until IML8 mentioned it, but yes. Keep pulling, after your release the fire button, to clear the chamber. ;)
 

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<kurtsey> Thank you both, Woofs, and tejas.

I will attempt it a bit more. I did so tonite, and it was not delightful.
Yeah, it can take a little getting used to. It's particularly helpful with thicker gauge builds and will help prevent that condensation build up that can sometimes start to seep out the air holes. Also, counter-intuitively, in some cases, I've found that it adds another dimension to the flavor.

Edit: Just wanted to add that there are many other benefits. One being that it helps keep the wick saturated, if you're a chain-vaper like I sometimes am.
 
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After draw? Is that like after glow? :blink:

So you mean a bit of a puff after the puff, with no power?


After power is applied the metal coil will still retain heat capable of vaporizing the juice.. The heavier the gauge the more heat will be retained, and the more important it is to use all that heat you built up in the coil. The retained heat cooks the juice and increases your gunking.

The idea is stop firing a second or two, before your draw is complete, depending on gauge of wire, and use the remaining heat for complete vaporization. Once the coil is below a certain temp it won't cook the juice.

At low wattage, higher gauge, you won't need more than a second, or split second, So just release right before your draw is finished so you draw that air in to cool the coil.

Temp control mods basically do just this for you during the vape.. You could be vaping at a temp without having much power applied. They use the principal of retained heat in one way. Also you will get slightly better battery life taking one second off per vape like tc. But you still have to let off a little early to use that remaing heat.

If you've ever test fired a coil.. Then a few seconds later touched it you see how much heat is still in that wire after power is removed.. 200 vape a day 2 seconds of cooking after each draw and you have equivalent of a pan on the stove carmelizing gunk.

Most have the habit of stopping their draw before letting off the fire button.. This is why they have so much trouble and have to rewick so much.... Just switch it around.. Let off first.

Also as mentioned it removes Vapor from chamber so it doesn't condensate back down onto the wicks.
 
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It's about that time! Alright, I know what I said I was gonna get next, but I think I'm gonna have to have an iJoy Limitless and some 5mm TSS coils. Anybody here tried this setup out yet?



Oh and BTW, I'm still using the same wick in my Bachelor. As a matter of fact, I need to go fill the tank for the second time today. I'm not sure how many ml I've gone through so far, but it's a bunch (about 2 months worth I think) and the flavor is still great. I haven't even looked at the coil and wick yet. Maybe I can get another month out of it. *shrugs* :thumbs:
 
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Anyone ever figure hot how many feet is in the 3lb box or I guess maybe it would measure easier if someone weighed a 500ft box. I was just poking around earlier today and looking at product codes and sizing and it got me curious just how much more was in the 3lb. Interesting that all of the other options are by length and not weight. Seems all of the Grahams that is pure rayon start with the numbers 44. Couldn't detect any pattern in the rest of the item numbers though.
 
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