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[Coastal Cowboy]

In other news, the Orwellian named "net neutrality" officially ends today, and the more accurately named "free-er market internet" may begin operations.

If you want the Economics 101 version of what this is really all about:

The people responsible for building, maintaining and operating the information superhighway want to provide drivers a faster commute. They have the technology to do it--but they can't pay for it and generate enough income to gain a return on their investment. After all, they're a business and they have stockholders (you, if you have a 401(k) plan).

So, the superhighway people want to erect tollbooths to get the users pay for part of it. Those who don't (or can't) pay the toll can still get where they're going but it might take longer than the paying customers, especially during rush hour.

No one gets slowed down. But the people who pay more go faster.

Some other people said, "that's not fair--people who can't afford the faster route will have to choose between faster internet or food for their babies!" or something. They couldn't get a law passed to stop this free market stuff, so they got it through royal decree. They called this 'net neutrality,' because the fast lane of the information superhighway shouldn't discriminate between those who can pay for it and those who can't. Everyone should have to... drive ... ... at the ... ... same .... slow... ... speed.

Except certain people with lots and lots of money and power and political influence. You know... the ruling class.

 

[whodat2112]

I got some flavorings and 4 spare "bulb" tanks for my Scions in the mail today

 

[Rangertrix]

While I was gone, someone decided they needed my Zeus and new Espion Solo.

Then came home to find issues with an online vendor with whom I will never do bidness again.
I always wanted to say 'bidness'. lol

 

[whodat2112]

In other news, the Orwellian named "net neutrality" officially ends today, and the more accurately named "free-er market internet" may begin operations.

If you want the Economics 101 version of what this is really all about:

The people responsible for building, maintaining and operating the information superhighway want to provide drivers a faster commute. They have the technology to do it--but they can't pay for it and generate enough income to gain a return on their investment. After all, they're a business and they have stockholders (you, if you have a 401(k) plan).

So, the superhighway people want to erect tollbooths to get the users pay for part of it. Those who don't (or can't) pay the toll can still get where they're going but it might take longer than the paying customers, especially during rush hour.

No one gets slowed down. But the people who pay more go faster.

Some other people said, "that's not fair--people who can't afford the faster route will have to choose between faster internet or food for their babies!" or something. They couldn't get a law passed to stop this free market stuff, so they got it through royal decree. They called this 'net neutrality,' because the fast lane of the information superhighway shouldn't discriminate between those who can pay for it and those who can't. Everyone should have to... drive ... ... at the ... ... same .... slow... ... speed.

Except certain people with lots and lots of money and power and political influence. You know... the ruling class.

Just asking, will our internet bills go up if our provider increases speed?

 

[whodat2112]

While I was gone, someone decided they needed my Zeus and new Espion Solo.

Then came home to find issues with an online vendor with whom I will never do bidness again.
I always wanted to say 'bidness'. lol

Which vendor? (I won't tell anyone)

 

[whodat2112]

My "bulb" tanks for the Fireluke Mesh tank should arrive tomorrow. I like the tank, but the capacity is too small, too many refills.

Also my mod/tank win has finally hit the U.S. so there's that

 

[untar]

No one gets slowed down. But the people who pay more go faster.

So AT&T or *cough* Verizon won't slow or paywall their competitors for online media? That's good news

Just saying there might be more to the whole provider economy situation than just someone having faster or slower speed based on what they can afford. There's also a media giant war surrounding that whole thing, at least in my distant cross-oceanic view - could be wrong but I doubt it has nothing at all to do with it.

 

[whodat2112]

 

[Rangertrix]

Which vendor? (I won't tell anyone)

I placed an order with eightvape, which I've always had a great experience with, then placed an order using the same CC, billing address, and shipping address I've always used.
It never shipped, so I finally called and was informed I have to send a photo of my CC and driver's license to prevent fraud,
#1 I have placed orders with no issue using EXACT same info, nothing has changed.
#2 I had to call to even find out there was an issue.
#3 If you require secondary verification, ask for it BEFORE you charge my card and send me a confirmation email.
#4 Photo of my ID and credit card for security. (that's security? where do I begin with those issues?)
#5 Disparaging comments about military personnel and our "inabilities".
#6 Have not received 'reward points' for previous orders, but have for an order that hasn't even shipped.

Luckily, they are not local to me.

Rant over.

Thanks for the vent.

 

[whodat2112]

 

[Rangertrix]

Calling me 'your boy' will never help substantiate your professionalism, BTW.

 

[whodat2112]

I've never used that particular vendor.

 

[whodat2112]

 

[untar]

Calling me 'your boy' will never help substantiate your professionalism, BTW.

 

[whodat2112]

 

[Coastal Cowboy]

Just asking, will our internet bills go up if our provider increases speed?

Your internet bill my or may not go up regardless of whether the provider increases speed. And you may or may not be offered to increase your speed and your capacity for an additional charge.

Under the old system though, sooner or later your speed would decrease for the same reason speed falls on a congested highway. Under the neutrality rules, all users new and old use the same highway. Add no new lanes and traffic must slow in order to grow.

 

[untar]

batteries come in a package only a chainsaw can open

You mean the way you're supposed to open any package anyways?

 

[Rangertrix]

94d52cdfccd2b62cd2eea7765ff17309 original

 

[Rangertrix]

Edited - Oopsie - sorry, that pic is a no go...language

 

[Coastal Cowboy]

So AT&T or *cough* Verizon won't slow or paywall their competitors for online media? That's good news

Just saying there might be more to the whole provider economy situation than just someone having faster or slower speed based on what they can afford. There's also a media giant war surrounding that whole thing, at least in my distant cross-oceanic view - could be wrong but I doubt it has nothing at all to do with it.

What you're describing are short run issues. In the long run (where people can change providers), consumers almost always make the most efficient choice.