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Letitia, I respond with love and respect...


But it did not have to be this way. The USA is doing worse than every other country and many 3rd world countries in battling COVID. There is no excuse for that. None.



That's fatalistic. Again what has happened in the USA did not need to happen. There were (still are) solid pandemic plans that were not at all utilized by the powers that be. That is a simple indisputable fact.



I don't know about that. But look at cancer deaths versus COVID deaths. COVID deaths outnumber cancer deaths in a number of countries.

As of September 2020...
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In fact, at peak, COVID was the leading cause of death compared to other causes. Once the current data is in we will see very similar trends continue.
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How lethal is COVID-19 compared to cancer, accidents, flu and other causes?


And in the USA through October 2020...
COVID-19 Is Now the Third Leading Cause of Death in the U.S.
The COVID numbers here since October have skyrocketed and will again over the next few weeks. It wouldn't surprise me to see COVID at or very near the top in another month or two.


This is the best place to debate COVID stuff. Join in! :) https://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/threads/coronavirus-covid-19.934997/page-1306


Ok, resuming important Shiny business then. My Paramour SbS is supposed to be here this week. I'm looking forward to that! :D
Reported deaths due to covid have been wildly inaccurate. Many with preexisting conditions would have died with/ without covid. The US states have deliberately been "encouraging" reporting covid as the cause of death when in fact it was not the true cause of death. This is finally being reined in and cause of death are being responsibly listed with covid only being listed as the body having a infectious disease. Yes the individual may have lived a short time longer but would have still died. Any way shouldn't have posted my comments here, this isn't the correct forum. Apologies to the mods.
 

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Reported deaths due to covid have been wildly inaccurate. Many with preexisting conditions would have died with/ without covid. The US states have deliberately been "encouraging" reporting covid as the cause of death when in fact it was not the true cause of death. This is finally being reined in and cause of death are being responsibly listed with covid only being listed as the body having a infectious disease. Yes the individual may have lived a short time longer but would have still died. Any way shouldn't have posted my comments here, this isn't the correct forum. Apologies to the mods.
Those of us who have lost family members to this disease don't come to this thread to see conspiracy theories minimizing the devastation without legitimate sources.

I hope you don't lose anyone. We've lost four.
 

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Those of us who have lost family members to this disease don't come to this thread to see conspiracy theories minimizing the devastation without legitimate sources.

I hope you don't lose anyone. We've lost four.
Condolences for your loss.
I don't prescribe/ believe in conspiracy theories. I work in mortuary services and have seen first hand the corruption.
 

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Reported deaths due to covid have been wildly inaccurate. Many with preexisting conditions would have died with/ without covid. The US states have deliberately been "encouraging" reporting covid as the cause of death when in fact it was not the true cause of death. This is finally being reined in and cause of death are being responsibly listed with covid only being listed as the body having a infectious disease. Yes the individual may have lived a short time longer but would have still died. Any way shouldn't have posted my comments here, this isn't the correct forum. Apologies to the mods.
That's ^^^^ a page from the Death Cult Anti-science Club.

The actual science professionals worldwide, who are the only true experts, have proven you and those who believe the same wrong. Science Rules.

I would honestly love to see your sources posted for all to see.

BTW the "herd immunity" death cult fantasy would result in millions dead. Fact.

https://www.medpagetoday.com/infectiousdisease/covid19/88401

The false promise of herd immunity for COVID-19

I work in mortuary services and have seen first hand the corruption.

Sources please. Opinions are cool, but sources with facts go much further.



Please take this to the COVID thread in the Outside. I would LOVE to continue this over there. Many with similar opinions as yours have tried and have been proven wrong. Over and over.



Meanwhile, I vape.
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And return programming to normal Shiny activities...
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Those of us who have lost family members to this disease don't come to this thread to see conspiracy theories minimizing the devastation without legitimate sources.

I hope you don't lose anyone. We've lost four.
Sorry for your terrible losses but I can shine a shiny light.
Oh no it's Mr Bill!

Who is this Mr Bill and what does he have against the little guy?
 
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Yes the individual may have lived a short time longer but would have still died.
:shock::shock::shock::shock: Sorry, your convo might be over on this for you but I am still reeling from the shock of what you said.
I have always had much love and respect for you Letitia but I cannot NOT say something as this hits home for me.
I have lung cancer and high blood pressure. If I were to catch Covid it would be the Covid that killed me, not the lung cancer. I am told I can live many more years not just a "short time longer"
Words can be very hurtful right now when so many are struggling with loss and some of us are fearful for our lives.
 

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Condolences for your loss.
I don't prescribe/ believe in conspiracy theories. I work in mortuary services and have seen first hand the corruption.
If you have the evidence perhaps you should report it to the proper channels otherwise you're complicit. As this has been a conspiracy theory for a while that has been soundly and consistently disproven so if you have some evidence you should report it because there's something wrong in your local jurisdiction.
 

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To be fair many who do wear masks and follow precautions to a T are also getting the virus.
Well that's probably true but the way the masks work is more as a protection to others so the anti-maskers are spreading many more viral droplets.
You've got to be so careful with touching door handles to even in-store products......gel those hands as if your life depends on it....well actually it does, doesn't it in many cases :)
 

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    Morning shinies :wub:

    I've just been doing some Shiny shopping:w00t: Ange, you would have had fun here;)
    My first Custom made stabwood mod is officially underway:banana:
    When I enquired about stabwoods I was told by the modder to take my pick from any enclosures on this site Login • Instagram or I could even pick any two and mash em' together and he would have it made for me.... that drove me up the wall just a little bit trying to choose something:lol:
    I managed to pick one now it's being made ready to wire up DNA style:thumb:

    He is brilliant, and I'm glad you've found a new rabbit hole :thumbs:I can't wait to see the results. This is my fave from his site:
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    Good evening shinies :wub:

    Hope all ok and having a good day/evening/morning.

    Just so you know I've got nothing more to say on the shiny thread about coronas, eclipses, martians, aliens or conspiracy theories.... they're are the true fake news :)

    Hugs to everyone x
     

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    Morning shinies :wub:



    He is brilliant, and I'm glad you've found a new rabbit hole :thumbs:I can't wait to see the results. This is my fave from his site:
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    That is stunning! I don’t want to know what it costs. It’s screaming “hahaha not in your price range”. A gal can dream though, yes?
     

    NolaMel

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    Good evening shinies :wub:

    Hope all ok and having a good day/evening/morning.

    Just so you know I've got nothing more to say on the shiny thread about coronas, eclipses, martians, aliens or conspiracy theories.... they're are the true fake news :)

    Hugs to everyone x
    Anything new in the review queue?
     

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    I got a Kindle Oasis e-reader and an Instant Pot. :lol:

    Night, Shinies. 2020 is almost over! Rejoice! :)

    A Kindle is a fantastic present! I have a basic one and love it. You can get lots of free books or very inexpensive books at Bookbug.com Also “borrow” books from your local library.

    I don’t know what an Insta pot is but sounds like something for the kitchen. I only do microwave stuff in the kitchen lol :cry: !!

    Enjoy!!
     

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    Morning shinies :wub:



    He is brilliant, and I'm glad you've found a new rabbit hole :thumbs:I can't wait to see the results. This is my fave from his site:
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    Very Nice:wub:
    It was so very hard to choose but here's my stabwood selection;)
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    The stabwood makers need to make a bigger block with an almost identical resin pattern for me then mill it and drill it and send it to the mod maker to build for me:thumb:
     

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