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[ShamrockPat]

I see that Chtulhu has made a 21700 Boro, and is also available with dna60, but $90 extra for dna seems high to say the least

And there's only 1 screen/display photo on their site showing only the Atom screen which is tiny. Like a small screen dna.

It's hard for me to imagine they'd make different screen size cutouts.

 

[hittman]

Boring waiting for packages, should have had more so that there is more to keep control of.
However, thought to take it easy for a while and wait for the currency to improve.

I see that Chtulhu has made a 21700 Boro, and is also available with dna60, but $90 extra for dna seems high to say the least

I saw that but the price put me off. I don’t know why they would make a 21700 mod with a 60 watt chipset. If you’re going to make it big enough for 21700 then why not go to a dna75 or 100c

 

[AXIOM_1]

Hello people!

So after a long time considering, I decided to buy Brunhilde rta.

But I am totally puzzled between Brunhilde mtl and Brunhilde v1o3.

The later has 7ml capacity and dual coil, can it do mtl aswell?

What's your thoughts which one is better and why?

Thank you in advance!!!

I love RDTAs.......... I do not have a 103 (yet) so someone correct me if I am off on something...... From what I am seeing, the 103 is designed to be a higher wattage DL atomizer rather than RDL.... But with that said, people claim the flavor is outstanding and it provides lots of airflow wide open,,,,,, Lots of power, clouds and flavor,,,,, So if you want to operate at lower wattage (RDL) it would probably be wiser to pick a different RTDA..... Either it's little Brother or something else..... If you like operating at high power and don't mind toking off of a long telephone pole then the 103 is for you LOL... Some people are put off by it's tall size but personally i wouldn't care what it looked like just so long as it vaped good.... I have no class

Your post has brought an important point out about RDL vaping...... I have been a high wattage vaper for a long time but I have been "trying" to transition into a lower wattage RDL style of vaping.... But that is when I started running into problems with atomizers.......

The problem I have experienced is that if I use a DL atty and want to do RDL vaping with it then the flavor suffers when the power is reduced.... For example: I own a Oxva Arbiter solo RTA... It is specifically designed for BOTH MTL and RDL vaping.... It is touted as having excellent flavor in both RDL and MTL........... The flavor for me is almost non existent.... Sure, it produces good vapor at say 25 or 30 watts but there is also hardly any flavor..... I have tried every type of coil and configuration and nothing has helped......I mention this because that is the way it has been with most all RTAs while trying to do RDL style of vaping......

There are scores of MTL and DL atty's but finding a decent RDL one that provides flavor is a chore for me..... I don't know folks, maybe I have become spoiled off of the intense flavor from RDAs and expect too much from other atty's..... I am thinking on giving the Meson single coiler a try and see if I can get a flavorful RDL style of vape off the thing using a smaller coil....

Oh, and another strange thing...... I own a few MTL atty's and none of them have any flavor either..... I have several friends who are tootle puffers and they tell me they get excellent flavor while doing MTL..... Sort of makes me wonder what is the matter with myself?

 

[Berenulf]

Very good choice
If you're after a tight MTL vape then the Brunhilde 103 wouldn't suit you. You can get a loose MTL vape with the 103 using only a single coil and closing the airflow down.
The Brunhilde MTL RTA will be able to give you a much tighter MTL vape all the way to RDL.
I personally very much prefer the lovely Brunhilde MTL RTA because I'm a single coil RDL vaper plus I think Brunhilde MTL is a little bit easier to work with than the 103

I think I go for the dual coiler, gives more options for coiling, I am still very tempted by the mtl too.....might end up buying both....

I like the mtl draw alot and would like to try some day a higher PG juice on a small mtl coil aswell.

Thank you for the insight!

 

[Berenulf]

I love RDTAs.......... I do not have a 103 (yet) so someone correct me if I am off on something...... From what I am seeing, the 103 is designed to be a higher wattage DL atomizer rather than RDL.... But with that said, people claim the flavor is outstanding and it provides lots of airflow wide open,,,,,, Lots of power, clouds and flavor,,,,, So if you want to operate at lower wattage (RDL) it would probably be wiser to pick a different RTDA..... Either it's little Brother or something else..... If you like operating at high power and don't mind toking off of a long telephone pole then the 103 is for you LOL... Some people are put off by it's tall size but personally i wouldn't care what it looked like just so long as it vaped good.... I have no class

Your post has brought an important point out about RDL vaping...... I have been a high wattage vaper for a long time but I have been "trying" to transition into a lower wattage RDL style of vaping.... But that is when I started running into problems with atomizers.......

The problem I have experienced is that if I use a DL atty and want to do RDL vaping with it then the flavor suffers when the power is reduced.... For example: I own a Oxva Arbiter solo RTA... It is specifically designed for BOTH MTL and RDL vaping.... It is touted as having excellent flavor in both RDL and MTL........... The flavor for me is almost non existent.... Sure, it produces good vapor at say 25 or 30 watts but there is also hardly any flavor..... I have tried every type of coil and configuration and nothing has helped......I mention this because that is the way it has been with most all RTAs while trying to do RDL style of vaping......

There are scores of MTL and DL atty's but finding a decent RDL one that provides flavor is a chore for me..... I don't know folks, maybe I have become spoiled off of the intense flavor from RDAs and expect too much from other atty's..... I am thinking on giving the Meson single coiler a try and see if I can get a flavorful RDL style of vape off the thing using a smaller coil....

Oh, and another strange thing...... I own a few MTL atty's and none of them have any flavor either..... I have several friends who are tootle puffers and they tell me they get excellent flavor while doing MTL..... Sort of makes me wonder what is the matter with myself?

hmm, seems to me rather a juice problem, go for a tal lower VG juice, higher PG delivers more flavour and also it vaporizes easier on lower watts/temps, I used a 50/50 juice with a wire of 30 and it was magnificent, I will one day try again a more thinner wire with a PG of 70, will let you know how that goes.

 

[Berenulf]

I love RDTAs.......... I do not have a 103 (yet) so someone correct me if I am off on something...... From what I am seeing, the 103 is designed to be a higher wattage DL atomizer rather than RDL.... But with that said, people claim the flavor is outstanding and it provides lots of airflow wide open,,,,,, Lots of power, clouds and flavor,,,,, So if you want to operate at lower wattage (RDL) it would probably be wiser to pick a different RTDA..... Either it's little Brother or something else..... If you like operating at high power and don't mind toking off of a long telephone pole then the 103 is for you LOL... Some people are put off by it's tall size but personally i wouldn't care what it looked like just so long as it vaped good.... I have no class

Your post has brought an important point out about RDL vaping...... I have been a high wattage vaper for a long time but I have been "trying" to transition into a lower wattage RDL style of vaping.... But that is when I started running into problems with atomizers.......

The problem I have experienced is that if I use a DL atty and want to do RDL vaping with it then the flavor suffers when the power is reduced.... For example: I own a Oxva Arbiter solo RTA... It is specifically designed for BOTH MTL and RDL vaping.... It is touted as having excellent flavor in both RDL and MTL........... The flavor for me is almost non existent.... Sure, it produces good vapor at say 25 or 30 watts but there is also hardly any flavor..... I have tried every type of coil and configuration and nothing has helped......I mention this because that is the way it has been with most all RTAs while trying to do RDL style of vaping......

There are scores of MTL and DL atty's but finding a decent RDL one that provides flavor is a chore for me..... I don't know folks, maybe I have become spoiled off of the intense flavor from RDAs and expect too much from other atty's..... I am thinking on giving the Meson single coiler a try and see if I can get a flavorful RDL style of vape off the thing using a smaller coil....

Oh, and another strange thing...... I own a few MTL atty's and none of them have any flavor either..... I have several friends who are tootle puffers and they tell me they get excellent flavor while doing MTL..... Sort of makes me wonder what is the matter with myself?

Also you might reconsider the percent of flavour you pit in the DIY juice, go for a lower pg, and when this don't help, add a tad more flavouring then you put in DL juice. Ofcourse if you want to like change from dl to rdl mid vaping, I'd go for a 7 twist 26g kanthal, its in a very good ohms range, and with this coil you don't have to change juice either, just remember to lower the watts a little, because mtl airflow will let the coil go way hotter then RDL flow. But ofc with this setting in between two styles its rather a compromize then perfection of either.

I tune my oxva to fit a RDL I go all in for RDL, when I go for mtl I tune it to fit ideally the mtl, I am totally pleased with both features. Idk I might try posting pics once I swap over to mtl again.

 

[AXIOM_1]

hmm, seems to me rather a juice problem, go for a tal lower VG juice, higher PG delivers more flavour and also it vaporizes easier on lower watts/temps, I used a 50/50 juice with a wire of 30 and it was magnificent, I will one day try again a more thinner wire with a PG of 70, will let you know how that goes.

Yeah, the MTL and RDL vaping for me has never worked too swift LOL (for flavor) ...... I would easily become an MTL vaper if I could just get some flavor off the things..... I love the throat hit from MTL as it is very similar to when I used to smoke. It's just that I also want flavor and I get very little... I can't exactly say that I get zero flavor as I do get "some" flavor but certainly not very much.....

Yes, I usually do mix my juices thick and that may be some of the problem but if memory serves me, I have mixed my juices at various ratios before with no benefit.... I suppose I could whip up some thinner juice and try some more experiments, but honestly, I have tried about everything imaginable with my MTL tanks to increase flavor.....

I get very good flavor off of my larger sub ohm factory coil heads as well as RDAs but just not with any of my MTL RTAs.... I don't have any high end MTL tanks but I do have the Berserker which is known to have good flavor yet I barely taste anything off of it. I also have several other MTL tanks that are good but also have almost no flavor...... It's weird for sure.......

Yeah, let me know how it goes with your experiments..... I will try some more myself in regards to my juice and see what happens. But, like I said, I have already did lots of experimenting in the past in regards to juice.... I will also let you know what I find out.

 

[Berenulf]

Yeah, the MTL and RDL vaping for me has never worked too swift LOL (for flavor) ...... I would easily become an MTL vaper if I could just get some flavor off the things..... I love the throat hit from MTL as it is very similar to when I used to smoke. It's just that I also want flavor and I get very little... I can't exactly say that I get zero flavor as I do get "some" flavor but certainly not very much.....

Yes, I usually do mix my juices thick and that may be some of the problem but if memory serves me, I have mixed my juices at various ratios before with no benefit.... I suppose I could whip up some thinner juice and try some more experiments, but honestly, I have tried about everything imaginable with my MTL tanks to increase flavor.....

I get very good flavor off of my larger sub ohm factory coil heads as well as RDAs but just not with any of my MTL RTAs.... I don't have any high end MTL tanks but I do have the Berserker which is known to have good flavor yet I barely taste anything off of it. I also have several other MTL tanks that are good but also have almost no flavor...... It's weird for sure.......

Yeah, let me know how it goes with your experiments..... I will try some more myself in regards to my juice and see what happens. But, like I said, I have already did lots of experimenting in the past in regards to juice.... I will also let you know what I find out.

Lets keep in touch, maybe we get it figured out.

I am figuring also that maybe not all tastes work equally for mtl, what I had was salt nic arctic menthol 50/50 20mg juice.

Might also be a wicking thing, the oxva I have found isn't very difficult to wick in regards of it atleast working, but considering flavour, it has to be just right. I always comb out and try my wick ends on the ports until I get it just right, also the lenght seems to be tricky to get right.

I don't cut it at the lenght of base, I tend to cut it a little further, but just a little, it varyis of the coil placement, of how low I place it, for mtl I went as low as possible, then I cut the ends almost at base or in regards of base diameter. By mtl I tend to comb out considerably more then with rdl.....can't give you a decent explanation to this, it just works for me.

 

[AXIOM_1]

Lets keep in touch, maybe we get it figured out.

I am figuring also that maybe not all tastes work equally for mtl, what I had was salt nic arctic menthol 50/50 20mg juice.

Might also be a wicking thing, the oxva I have found isn't very difficult to wick in regards of it atleast working, but considering flavour, it has to be just right. I always comb out and try my wick ends on the ports until I get it just right, also the lenght seems to be tricky to get right.

I don't cut it at the lenght of base, I tend to cut it a little further, but just a little, it varyis of the coil placement, of how low I place it, for mtl I went as low as possible, then I cut the ends almost at base or in regards of base diameter. By mtl I tend to comb out considerably more then with rdl.....can't give you a decent explanation to this, it just works for me.

I just opened my Arbiter and the last build I put in there was a 7 wrap 26g single wire Kanthal coil, which I was using in RDL mode....... So, later today I will fiddle with making some various juices for it and see what I find out.

You can message me any time you desire and we can share info and that way we won't be clogging up the shiny thread.... Wish me luck

 

[Tor R]

Good morning folks,

Vape mail:

White v1, I didn't see it among the 4 usual colors DotMod had, is white a limited version?

I bought with me batt wrap and two colored v1 tanks since it was an outgoing offer:

 

[AXIOM_1]

Good morning folks,

Vape mail:

White v1, I didn't see it among the 4 usual colors DotMod had, is white a limited version?

I bought with me batt wrap and two colored v1 tanks since it was an outgoing offer:

Awesome!

 

[Berenulf]

I just opened my Arbiter and the last build I put in there was a 7 wrap 26g single wire Kanthal coil, which I was using in RDL mode....... So, later today I will fiddle with making some various juices for it and see what I find out.

You can message me any time you desire and we can share info and that way we won't be clogging up the shiny thread.... Wish me luck

Hmmm, with an rdl coil, I am not sure about going on a thinner juice, maybe 50/50 would work, ot 60/40 vg/pg for starters.

I personally would go for a 28g/30g wire with lets say 8-10 twists, start with a ratio of 50/50 and work my way slowly towards higher pg until I get that taste I desire. I would aim between 1,5-2,0 for a real mtl.

 

[Tor R]

I saw that but the price put me off. I don’t know why they would make a 21700 mod with a 60 watt chipset. If you’re going to make it big enough for 21700 then why not go to a dna75 or 100c

With 75C you would end up with one beast of a 21700 Boro, not in power but in size.
A chipset that is mounted in terms of height, as a 75C is bound to have, gives it an increase in width, or thickness.
The dna 60 fits into the pocket under the atty, that's why the dna 60 is the chipset of choice in the boro world.

And there's only 1 screen/display photo on their site showing only the Atom screen which is tiny. Like a small screen DNA.

It's hard for me to imagine they'd make different screen size cutouts.

I have only seen one picture that is from a preorder, I have not seen a picture that shows anything about screen placement and where the buttons are placed.

 

[hittman]

Good morning folks,

Vape mail:
View attachment 991646
White v1, I didn't see it among the 4 usual colors DotMod had, is white a limited version?

I bought with me batt wrap and two colored v1 tanks since it was an outgoing offer:
View attachment 991647

That's super nice looking! I love the white with the gold button.

 

[ShamrockPat]

The dna 60 fits into the pocket under the atty, that's why the dna 60 is the chipset of choice in the boro world

And does not have an integrated charging chip which kept its size relatively small

Confirmd by Cthulu at POTV, small screen 60, USB-C.

 

[Tor R]

Vape mail 2, and the last of what was on its way.
I bought one in black but there was a bug in the firing button, so I got one in teal under warranty:

It may be that I can get the other one to work, we'll see, but at least I've got a handy mod.

 

[Tor R]

And does not have an integrated charging chip which kept its size relatively small

Confirmd by Cthulu at POTV, small screen 60, USB-C.

USB-C for data transfer only?
Evolv has stopped supplying dna 60 with charging board, the set consists of chip & screen, charger board must be purchased separately.
However, I have not seen usb-c data cards for sale yet.
I would assume that they have chosen to mount the chipset at an angle inside, saving a few mm on the height, small screen for easier mounting.

Cthulhu, I'm hardly interested in 21700, but if dna60 comes in 18650 edition, it increases my interest.
Do you know the dimensions of the 21700 AIO?

 

[hittman]

Vape mail 2, and the last of what was on its way.
I bought one in black but there was a bug in the firing button, so I got one in teal under warranty:
View attachment 991649
It may be that I can get the other one to work, we'll see, but at least I've got a handy mod.

Is that a coolfire mod?

 

[Tor R]

Is that a coolfire mod?

SmokJoy Air 50 kit, mod have dimension, 58.2 x 22.3x 34.5mm.
I think they had a follow up called the Air 50 Micro.
The price of the sale was 13$, rta included.

 

[Tor R]

Innokin has signed a new 3 year contract with Dimitris & Phil, I asked them a while ago if Innokin was planning a follow-up to the Coolfire Mini, and yesterday at the live show they said that they are at least designing a Coolfire Mini.

Such small mods are completely absent on the market today, apart from the Eleaf one.