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This guy breaks it down pretty well.



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Try not to think of this character when you hear his voice.
 

madstabber

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I dealt with slow charging on my D4 for way longer than I should have. I researched the MiBoxer pretty thoroughly like anything I buy and never found anything negative on it. I wouldn't worry about it. I've had it running constantly without a rest and have left cells on it overnight with no issues.

It's currently sitting on a wire shelf, so ventilation isn't a problem but it stays pretty cool regardless of the surface I place it on. I kept my D4 as a backup and for overflow but since I started using the faster charger, I haven't needed it once. The MiBoxer is so much faster that it's more efficient to just charge four at a time rather than put cells on the D4 too since I could do at least two cycles on the MiBoxer and the D4 would still not be done. I doubt you would be disappointed with it.

Oh, and I spent around $45 for it on Amazon. I wouldn't think twice about spending that much on a mod but this charger has improved my vaping experience more than anything else on my shelf.
I love my Miboxer C4-12 also it’s one of the best purchases I’ve made. I’ve noticed that it doesn’t get warm at all, even when charging 4 cells at a high rate. My Xtar and Lii-kala chargers both get warm and when charging 4 cells the Lii-kala gets warm enough that I worry a little. I’ve stopped used both because the miboxer can handle charging all my battery needs. Have you noticed yours get warm at all? I just thought it was strange, I know it monitors temp but it still charges fast so it just does it without a temp. Spike.
 

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USA is in the strong holds of the worst Epidemic of Opioid crisis ever. Much worse than the 60's. It is every where. Small rural towns to big cities.
In the 80's a younger group forward thinking DR's realized that Opiates relieved pain but were not being used due to the addiction factor. Their thoughts were "who cares about the addiction factor if it gives a quality of life to a dying person that would be incapacitated without pain meds." Then they came back on the market to be doled out to anyone that had the slightest pain. In a major way with what they call pain management centers. Money making clinics for DRS that did not care to offer alternatives and just wrote a script every five minutes to some poor soul (self included) that had no idea of the addiction nightmare they were walking into head first.
I had the benefit of having already been an addict and having dealt with it there was no way I was going back so I quit within 2 months and went back to just living with pain. Others not so lucky and fast forward 5-10 years and your every day house wife and construction worker are Opioid addicts and getting it from their DR's so they assume this is alright. Add in the criminal force who realizes they can send their mother, brother and wife to pain management because everyone has a bit of a problem and the bar is so low as to who gets in (are you breathing? OK you are in) and now the opiates are hitting the black market for the construction workers kids to learn to love. Someone realizes a huge mistake was made by these forward thinking DR's of the 80's and the government decides to start scrutinizing the DRS giving it out. "Send these people to surgery they scream" Do more to get them off this scary drug" "Lets tighten up and make them hard to get" forget the pain of real people that might need them and just cut everybody off. Now the construction workers kid turns to ...... because it is easier to get (and cheaper) and he might even take his mom down the ...... road with him because she is an addict too and sees no alternative. The crisis is huge and there is a product of this travesty in every wake of ones life.

I am one of the people that Oxycontin was created for - control chronic pain without killing the patient of liver disease - as I have a disease of the nervous system that is the most painful chronic pain disease that exists. (CRPS in both my legs caused by a spinal injury)

The disease itself won't kill me but the pain is unimaginable, so much so I spent the first 6 months of this disease with a loaded gun in my hand trying to make it 5 minutes at a time without pulling the trigger.

staying alive for the next minute took all the willpower I could muster, I couldn't at first imagine a year down the road.

Once I was diagnosed with the disease I was finally treated for it.. but of course there isn't much they can do, sympathetic blocks every other day, and pain meds..

The pain meds saved my life. They gave me 100 mg of Oxycontin a day, with Vicodin for breakthrough pain, 2400 mg of Gabapentin a day for pain, meds to sleep at night because even with all those drugs they couldn't kill enough pain to induce sleep for more than 30 minutes to an hour..

I was one of the lucky ones in that I had awesome doctors and adequate pain control after diagnosis. Not everyone was as lucky as I was, and I actually knew someone in my support group that killed themselves because they weren't getting adequate pain control..

I got off the opiods after 10 years of my own accord. I didn't deal with addiction, I never even stepped down my doses, I just stopped taking them..

I worried about having that much drugs in my house at all times.. the street value of what I took was large, and I got my meds 3 months at a time, so, 3-9 thousand dollars worth of oxycontin in my house at any given time.. and I didn't like that after I learned it - which I learned from watching the news..

But by then I had a decade with the disease, a lot of time to learn how to mentally deal with the pain, and so I took the next step and tried dealing with the pain without the opiods.

Thing is, now I and others like me can't get a Vicodin for pain. A year a half ago when the pain had me bedridden, literally bedridden in pain, because of the opiod "epidemic", I was told there was nothing they could do further..

lol.. nothing they could do. I could sit in bed and rot.. and this is how they are treating ALL pain patients.. even my elderly mother who broke her hip, can't get more than a Tylenol 3..

If it weren't for my kids, and adequate pain control I wouldn't be here today. Quality of life is important, because without it, there is no life.

When people are in so much pain they can't get out of bed, we need to be allowing doctors to help them. I for one think this crisis is a great big lie.. I had to go through serious testing, one test after the other with more than one doctor concurring on my case before I could get treated for pain.. they don't hand the stuff out like it's candy.

Addicts are getting the drugs illegally in the first place, and because of drugs pouring through a porous border no one in congess is willing to close, pain patients are being punished..
 
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I roast in bed. My bedroom is not heated and I sleep with a fan every night. I have a copper cooled mattress. But even I was freakin cold when it was -15. I could see my breath in there a few nights.
My husband (back when I had one) used to say "we could hang meat in here it is so cold'
 

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Not really, no. Maybe a few degrees above room temp but nothing like my other chargers.
Yea that’s what amazed me, it’s faster at charging then my other chargers and somehow cooler also. It doesn’t use a fan so that just seem odd to me. It’s using some kind of sorcery, so to be safe I set mine on my bible when in use.
 

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I am one of the people that Oxycontin was created for - control chronic pain without killing the patient of liver disease - as I have a disease of the nervous system that is the most painful chronic pain disease that exists. (CRPS in both my legs caused by a spinal injury)

The disease itself won't kill me but the pain is unimaginable, so much so I spent the first 6 months of this disease with a loaded gun in my hand trying to make it 5 minutes at a time without pulling the trigger.

staying alive for the next minute took all the willpower I could muster, I couldn't at first imagine a year down the road.

Once I was diagnosed with the disease I was finally treated for it.. but of course there isn't much they can do, sympathetic blocks every other day, and pain meds..

The pain meds saved my life. They gave me 100 mg of Oxycontin a day, with Vicodin for breakthrough pain, 2400 mg of Gabapentin a day for pain, meds to sleep at night because even with all those drugs they couldn't kill enough pain to induce sleep for more than 30 minutes to an hour..

I was one of the lucky ones in that I had awesome doctors and adequate pain control after diagnosis. Not everyone was as lucky as I was, and I actually knew someone in my support group that killed themselves because they weren't getting adequate pain control..

I got off the opiods after 10 years of my own accord. I didn't deal with addiction, I never even stepped down my doses, I just stopped taking them..

I worried about having that much drugs in my house at all times.. the street value of what I took was large, and I got my meds 3 months at a time, so, 3-9 thousand dollars worth of oxycontin in my house at any given time.. and I didn't like that after I learned it - which I learned from watching the news..

But by then I had a decade with the disease, a lot of time to learn how to mentally deal with the pain, and so I took the next step and tried dealing with the pain without the opiods.

Thing is, now I and others like me can't get a Vicodin for pain. A year a half ago when the pain had me bedridden, literally bedridden in pain, because of the opiod "epidemic", I was told there was nothing they could do further..

lol.. nothing they could do. I could sit in bed and rot.. and this is how they are treating ALL pain patients.. even my elderly mother who broke her hip, can't get more than a Tylenol 3..

If it weren't for my kids, and adequate pain control I wouldn't be here today. Quality of life is important, because without it, there is no life.

When people are in so much pain they can't get out of bed, we need to be allowing doctors to help them. I for one think this crisis is a great big lie.. I had to go through serious testing, one test after the other with more than one doctor concurring on my case before I could get treated for pain.. they don't hand the stuff out like it's candy.

Addicts are getting the drugs illegally in the first place, and because of drugs pouring through a porous border no one in congess is willing to close, pain patients are being punished..

Similar story for me. Except I fought tooth and nail for any treatment. Three years in and out of hospitals, tested for everything imaginable, ten years of chronic migraines. Twenty years of chronic pain.

Back when I could get proper meds, I worked. Without them, there is no way. I’ve lost 20 productive years to this idiocy.

Nobody is getting addiction level numbers of opioids from doctors. If they’re getting enough to take recreationally, they’re getting them illegally. And the only real victims here are people like us.
 

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Recurved the Zeus X today. Took forever to get it out of the slide box. Looks nice. I’ll give it a go tomorrow.

What are people going to run in it? I’m probably going to go with my tried and true ss316 or 430 simple spaced round at around .3 or .4 ohms.
 

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Wait I thought fast charging was “bad” for batteries. I suffer at .5amps. One charger does 2 18650s at 1.0amps and that seems like heaven lol! So is 3.0 amps safe now?! I would love to get that charger!!
From what I think Mooch has said is that it shortens a batteries longevity.
 

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Similar story for me. Except I fought tooth and nail for any treatment. Three years in and out of hospitals, tested for everything imaginable, ten years of chronic migraines. Twenty years of chronic pain.

Back when I could get proper meds, I worked. Without them, there is no way. I’ve lost 20 productive years to this idiocy.

Nobody is getting addiction level numbers of opioids from doctors. If they’re getting enough to take recreationally, they’re getting them illegally. And the only real victims here are people like us.
Things must be different here, the doctors just ask a few superficial questions then get you to sign up for therapy a few months later when most become drug seeking rather than needing. Big racket around here. Lost more friends to crooked doctors over kickbacks than I did back in the day to acid or powder.
 

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Recurved the Zeus X today. Took forever to get it out of the slide box. Looks nice. I’ll give it a go tomorrow.

What are people going to run in it? I’m probably going to go with my tried and true ss316 or 430 simple spaced round at around .3 or .4 ohms.

Ss316 Claptons @ .20. I still struggle with round wire, and I did not even consider using it today because I had enough things to fight with. I doubt that’s optimal, but they’re just the ticket in those gears.

I just love those. If I could only have one atty, it would be a Gear.
 

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I'm fine with 0.5 charging, have enough batteries and at my wattage it's all good.

Yeah I think I’d rather just keep more batteries around in a rotation than risk shortening their lives. Plus I really don’t need a 4th charger in my living room lol!
 

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