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I found it to be the same and since so many people enjoyed it, I figured I was doing something wrong. I even used the replay mode on my mod and still couldn't get a consistent vape from TC. It was different between every draw.

My venture into TC did have some benefit. It sparked my curiosity regarding different coil builds. I've recently ventured into different wires which has made vaping exciting again. I needed that, I was getting a little bored.

Well you should have been able to achieve consistency. You may not have had it set correctly..

I had mine so consistent it was mind numbingly boring.. lol.
 

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    Temp control is personal preference. I like the steady temperature and I can chain 3 or 4 drags in a row without it getting increasingly hot. I can also use bigger complex coils without feeling like they're getting too hot with a few draws. But it's not for everyone. If you're really keyed in to the heat behavior of power mode, you may find it disappointing. It's all about expectations.

    I've used TC since day one!
    If the vape is to hot ........ I add a wrap to the coil.
     

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    You and I both. I ordered the Lost Vape Triade a while back with the full intention of learning TC. I built one coil with all the TC wire I purchased, set the temp to 450, and gave up. My expedition lasted all of 10 minutes.
    I ignored TC for a long time and am just now getting to know it. The best part about it is no more burnt hits if I take a long draw. And it seems like my batteries last longer. I am down with it now that I understand it a little.
     

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    You guys are making me consider throwing an SS coil into one of my RDAs.

    I'm ok with TC. I prefer power. But the thing about TC that sets it behind for me is the available of coils. I don't like vaping round wire and the only other SS I have on hand is framed claptons.

    I might have to buy some simple multicore SS claptons.

    Edit: Albert has some 30*4/40 SS claptons....
     
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    Wondering if I can get replaceable doors with the SXK BB I bought. Anybody know the answer
    $65.33 SXK BB 70W Styled TC VW APV Mod Kit - 5ml / 1*18650 / 1-70W / 200-600'F at FastTech - Worldwide Free Shipping

    Yes. I have them on mine. You just need to be careful because on some clone models the magnets aren't glued in on the same sides as an authentic (i.e. upside down). I have the DNA60 version, and one of the more recent ones; the magnets are in the same position as the authentic so I can use any replaceable doors.
     

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    I've run a few SS TC setups over the years. I always found it to be more trouble than it was worth. Lots of fiddling around with settings for no real noticeable gain aside from avoiding dry hits. Maybe I'm missing something?


    I think my problems with TC are due to the following:

    1) TC probably works better with round wire/simple single core claptons. I'm guessing it's easier to get an accurate reading... We both use bigger and more complex coils.

    2) Dry hits are more of a tank thing. We both use drippers and squonkers... difficult to get a dry hit with those unless you forget to drip or squonk. We don't forget.

    I don't think you use many RTAs. I only use a couple. I could see it helping with dry hits in those. But if i'm going to handicap myself with an RTA, i'm going to compensate by running my biggest and lowest coils which are not SS.
     

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    I think my problems with TC are due to the following:

    1) TC probably works better with round wire/simple single core claptons. I'm guessing it's easier to get an accurate reading... We both use bigger and more complex coils.

    2) Dry hits are more of a tank thing. We both use drippers and squonkers... difficult to get a dry hit with those unless you forget to drip or squonk. We don't forget.

    I don't think you use many RTAs. I only use a couple. I could see it helping with dry hits in those. But if i'm going to handicap myself with an RTA, i'm going to compensate by running my biggest and lowest coils which are not SS.
    Yeah, I want to like RTAs and I have a bunch of them but I always end up going back to my drippers. RTAs are more of a commitment and I guess I just like the accessibility to whip off the cap and fine tune my setups any time I want. I have a spool of Geekvape SS clapton wire I was using for TC. Just a simple wrap.

    At first I thought it was all in my head but I've tested six ways from Sunday and I've found that complex wraps give me more complex flavors than round wire. At this point in the game, TC is more of a gimmick for me. Something to fiddle with if I'm bored and looking for something to mess around with.
     

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    The geniuses over at Evolv have made several comments that TC benefits more from a simple wire. Not that complex coils can’t be used, just that they add another layer of complexity. Wire that also employs a higher TCR value, Ti, and Nickel for example, are also easier to setup and dial in. Unfortunately they also come with their own set of challenges and concerns.

    Having a tool such as Escribe that allows you to see, in real time, how the coil is performing is a huge asset. Setting up TC becomes that much more easier, assuming you understand what you are looking at. Unfortunately, one needs to subscribe to a DNA device in order to get such tools.
     

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    If a build does not vape perfectly in VW mode then don't even bother trying to get TC running on it. Proper wicking is a must, you should be able to chain vape in VW (within reason) without it dry hitting. TC relies upon the coil being properly saturated, as it dries out the power is throttled to protect against a dry hit. If you are getting dry hits on an RTA in VW mode then it's not built correctly.

    Also the device plays a major role in TC success, products from Smok, iJoy, Sigelei etc do not work properly in TC (iJoy especially) and will be an exercise in futility. Those companies include a TC function only to boost sales and are usually the result of a failed experience trying TC for the first time.

    TC does take some tweaking to get working, SS316L wire can have a Nickle composition of anywhere between 10 - 14% and still be called SS316L. This will change the TCR value and alter the vape experience. SS wire is different across manufacturers which is why a default mod preset of SS316L rarely works perfectly.

    I can vape in TC and have it exactly the same as a VW vape with dry hit prevention in RDAs as well as vape consistency in RTAs. But it all depends on the build, device and fine tuning so YMMV. ;)
     

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    Yeah, I want to like RTAs and I have a bunch of them but I always end up going back to my drippers. RTAs are more of a commitment and I guess I just like the accessibility to whip off the cap and fine tune my setups any time I want. I have a spool of Geekvape SS clapton wire I was using for TC. Just a simple wrap.

    At first I thought it was all in my head but I've tested six ways from Sunday and I've found that complex wraps give me more complex flavors than round wire. At this point in the game, TC is more of a gimmick for me. Something to fiddle with if I'm bored and looking for something to mess around with.

    I learned how to build on the Kayfun 4. Made SO many mistakes but was determined not to lose to a piece of metal, so I kept trying til I had it perfect.

    After that any RTA was easy.. so so so simple it was unreal. Never had a dry hit, never leaked.

    There's this guy who runs around swearing by RDA's, how the flavor is so much better etc etc than an RTA.

    I was disappointed in the flavor of my first RDA, (crappy flavor compared to my worst RTA) and didn't get a dry hit until I tried squonking (I'm getting better at it now though.. lol)

    I'm having to learn all over again how to build and wick, because there are differences.. differences in how you have to wick, in coil placement etc..

    I think in the end, it's what your used to as far as RDA or RTA preference.

    I DO think TC is for inexperienced vapers more than anyone or anything. If you know how to build a coil and wick, you'll never have a dry hit.. when chainvaping you have to reprime periodically on factory coils, which a more experienced vapor will know when to do without thinking because you can tell two or three drags in advance that your going to need to..

    An experienced vaper knows how to build for the temperature they desire, the ramp up they prefer, and get their perfect vape.

    An inexperienced vaper needs help, time, trial and error. TC just removes that learning curve.
     

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    Having a tool such as Escribe that allows you to see, in real time, how the coil is performing is a huge asset. Setting up TC becomes that much more easier, assuming you understand what you are looking at. Unfortunately, one needs to subscribe to a DNA device in order to get such tools.
    Arctic Fox firmware for Eleaf/Joyetech/Wismec will give you the same tools and functionality as eScribe, also a DNA class TC on those devices.
     

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    Arctic Fox firmware for Eleaf/Joyetech/Wismec will give you the same tools and functionality as eScribe, also a DNA class TC on those devices.

    Never used it (guess one needs a compatible device). Does it have a device manager like Escribe so you can see in real time how the coil is performing?
     

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