Shinyitis Support Group

[Katmar]

Good Day, Shinies Far and Wide...hope you have a wonderful, cool day, no a/c breakdowns, just smooth sailing through this awful weather. And I don't even have it that bad! And LOVE on your fur babies, if you have them. Although, not sure how to love on a tortoise. But, then, again, a tortoise (turtle?) is not furry!
I think the mtl rta deal is on hold for now. Other matters have her attention, but thanks. She has plenty coils left, so good to go. May nag you again when the time comes round again.

 

[Katmar]

The Hellvape Vertex is a really good flavor producer. It’s the best mtl rta I’ve tried in quite a while.

Thanks, Hitt. Wrote it down for future reference.

 

[Pigs]

As I see it, this new "4th generation" technology (AC) will create a disturbance in the vaping world. It's catching on hugely from what I see/hear. I think other designers are scrambling to get a share of this new market.
I love it and will get the other colours..in time, but i'll rather stay clear of the "limited edition" hype for now. It's just way to expensive for me. When the dust settles, it'll be interesting to see what colours they make available.

It's interesting but I'm still confused how alternating current can heat a coil of resistance wire more efficiently than direct current. I've read the Fourier explanations and the same blurb on the Innokin site.
Help me here Fred - how is it better?
Changing the frequency of the AC is the key they claim but how does this make it taste different or better?

 

[hittman]

Has innokin ever done a 21700?

I’m not sure. I can’t think of one.

 

[hittman]

So tiny,looks like a keychain

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Thanks to everyone for the suggestions,really appreciated.
I have written down the names for future use but it seems the vaping gods have been kind to me and want me to save some money.
Sourcemore is sending me a Vandy Vape PR SE Kit and a GeekVape Aegis Nano Kit so i can review them.
Luckily enough the VV PR SE Kit comes with the Requiem RDA on top so YAY!! Bob's your uncle,it seems i am all set up for my future RDA tasting.

About the squonking,i am not that sure...read so many horror stories about leaking inside the mod i am not sure my OCD will let me live in peace,probably be checking the darn thing every 5 minutes to see it has not leaked inside.

P.S: @charlie1465 Charlie DUDE!!! check your pm's

Great news! Looking forward to your reviews.

 

[hittman]

Have you compared the vertex to the MD mtl? I like the MD, but even with the biggest air slot I would like a tad more air. It looks like it might fill the bill.

No, I haven’t tried the MD. I took the insert out of the vertex for more airflow.

 

[hittman]

It's interesting but I'm still confused how alternating current can heat a coil of resistance wire more efficiently than direct current. I've read the Fourier explanations and the same blurb on the Innokin site.
Help me here Fred - how is it better?
Changing the frequency of the AC is the key they claim but how does this make it taste different or better?

My guess is by manipulating the waveform. There are several types of ac waveforms that I’ve seen in welding equipment. Depending on the type or shape you can get different results.

 

[Pigs]

My guess is by manipulating the waveform. There are several types of ac waveforms that I’ve seen in welding equipment. Depending on the type or shape you can get different results.

Yes they claim they can change the frequency and the waveform shape from standard AC sine wave to distortions like square wave and saw tooth.

It still doesn't explain how this improves taste

 

[Pigs]

Ok so I ran this past an old friend and colleague of mine who is an electronic designer and professional tech. He's also been vaping since 2009 and eventually helped get me off the cigs in 2016.

He thinks the AC current to the coil has merit. After reading the Innokin and Fourier blurbs he came back with this:

I'm not sure the 'current in both directions' has anything to do with it (but it's gold-plated PR-speak)... however, the AC waveform is really just another variation on pulse mode IMHO. Thermodynamically, intermittent current supply (pulses or AC waveforms) allows the coil to be taken to a temperature and kept there more easily - it heats up and cools down during the duty cycle.... and varying the duty cycle allows fine control without giving the coil a hard time. This is very different to normal vaping power supplies which blasting the coil with current to heat it up - and rely on current limiting to stop it overheating. The concept isn't much different from pulse-width-modulation... which is used in many devices these days... lighting dimmers, Class D amps etc. So, notwithstanding the PR speak from the marketing department, it probably works! I Worth a spin I reckon

 

[Doffy]

AC current makes dicodes nice. 200m Hz or something and no pulsing

 

[Pigs]

AC current makes dicodes nice. 200m Hz or something and no pulsing

AC has to pulse. That's what it is - the poles alternate between positive and negative at various frequencies depending on the source or device's settings. You may not feel the pulsing but it's always there.

 

[Doffy]

AC has to pulse. That's what it is - the poles alternate between positive and negative at various frequencies depending on the source or device's settings. You may not feel the pulsing but it's always there.

so does dc in our mods (to my non techie knowledge) modern chips are pretty good in general. We used to get low khz

dicodes is smooth like a mech draw, which is direct dc not dc-dc step up-step down

i admittedly haven't ventured from evolv or mech in years

 

[Doffy]

Dani from dicodes, what chip is in there? Updated nivel?

 

[Pigs]

so does dc in our mods (to my non techie knowledge) modern chips are pretty good in general. We used to get low khz

dicodes is smooth like a mech draw, which is direct dc not dc-dc step up-step down

i admittedly haven't ventured from evolv or mech in years

kHz is a measure of vibration - 1 Hertz is one vibration per second and 1kHz (kilohertz) is one thousand vibrations per second. I'm pretty sure these new Innokin devices are vibrating their AC pulses at low frequencies, in the 20 to 200Hz range.

Think of AC power like sound waves - same thing. Pulses of compression and rarefraction at set (AC power) or varying (sound waves) amplitudes . DC (Direct Current) power has a positive and negative pole that don't swap or pulse.

 

[Doffy]

kHz is a measure of vibration - 1 Hertz is one vibration per second and 1kHz (kilohertz) is one thousand vibrations per second. I'm pretty sure these new Innokin devices are vibrating their AC pulses at low frequencies, in the 20 to 200Hz range.

Think of AC power like sound waves - same thing. Pulses of compression and rarefraction at set (AC power) or varying (sound waves) amplitudes . DC (Direct Current) power has a positive and negative pole that don't swap or pulse.

I'm not familiar with the innokin. Just that ac has been dicodes selling point for a very long time, with really no others

So I mostly just know what dicodes publicise

 

[charlie1465]

the hard part of recommending stuff is, I still love things that aren’t available now. Stuff comes and goes so fast.

I'm exactly the same....

 

[Pigs]

I'm not familiar with the innokin. Just that ac has been dicodes selling point for a very long time, with really no others

So I mostly just know what dicodes publicise

So it sounds a bit cheeky that Innokin are advertising their AC to the coil as being new and groundbreaking

 

[Doffy]

So it sounds a bit cheeky that Innokin are advertising their AC to the coil as being new and groundbreaking

Yeah

I think that it improves battery life on dicodes mods. And it feels like the draw from a mechanical mod

But as you say, frequency matters with the draw

Most people won't notice a difference IMO

 

[Doffy]

Apparently I am just unfit BTW. And the acronyms just look intimidating

Holter monitor for 24 hours was fine. So BP and pulse are just anxiety around doctors and BP monitors

Stress EchoCardioGram not perfect. But mostly just need to stop dawdling on morning walks. According to GP

 

[charlie1465]

Apparently I am just unfit BTW. And the acronyms just look intimidating

Holter monitor for 24 hours was fine. So BP and pulse are just anxiety around doctors and BP monitors

Stress EchoCardioGram not perfect. But mostly just need to stop dawdling on morning walks. According to GP

That's a relief then.....

Get out there for some walks...just fifteen minutes a day will make a difference

Edit.... Oops...just saw you already do the walks. Yup docs right you need to get that heart beating some for 10-15 mins.

Ps. This doesn't replace your Doc's advice