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[AngeNZ]

Saw a single all-black 18650 Stubby in stock earlier today but didn't pull the trigger. Too many recent purchases so I couldn't justify it. Looks like someone else got it. I feel like I made the right choice

When you eventually do get one, you'll love it. It's nearly the best thing since sliced bread.

 

[the wind]

When you eventually do get one, you'll love it. It's nearly the best thing since sliced bread.

high praise,i better get one.

 

[Tor R]

Excuse this rant:

In predicably bad news, our federal government is putting the vaping jackboots on. Major clampdown. Imports to be banned, plain packaging, pharmacy only etc.

"vaping without a prescription is ILLEGAL!"
they bark into the microphones. ( no doctors - that is zero - can be found who have a licence to prescribe).

" The Greatest Health Crisis to Hit Our Country In A Generation!" they chant. "11 out of 10 teens admit to vaping!!" they shout.
"Vape detectors to be installed in school toilets across the nation!" they promise.

Minister after minister rolled out in front of the camera with stern looks on their faces.

They even changed the language; multiple times on the news I heard gov representatives and tame medicos say "smoking a vape" (first time ever) , deliberately muddying the waters for the general public.

A cynic might point out that our treasurer (just days ago) let slip a lament about the 3.3 billion dollar loss of tobacco tax revenue due to the switch from smoking to vaping.

That same cynic might also point out that this multimedia bombardment came on the same day that interest rates were raised again, against market expectations and advice. Don't look there...look HERE!!

Even though there's no real surprise, the lies and disinformation make me so angry I want to shout at the screen. Ignorant people swallowing the bs happily, fingers wagging at the evil vapers.

You know that's worse for you than smoking!!!

I don't know the political system and the balance in Australia, is there union agreement among the politicians?

They want to stop illegal imports and sales, and cut the legs off everyone.

There are several things I question.
what 200+ substances are there?
what quantity are we talking about, and in what setting does it occur?

 

[OnTheFidele]

When you eventually do get one, you'll love it. It's nearly the best thing since sliced bread.

Thanks, that was very helpful. I try to research and game things as much as I can, but nothing really beats a solid endorsement. It also tells me that there will be future runs of the Stubby...

 

[Pigs]

I don't know the political system and the balance in Australia, is there union agreement among the politicians?

These are politicians from the party currently in power. They speak with one voice.

There are several things I question.
what 200+ substances are there?
what quantity are we talking about, and in what setting does it occur?

I'm sorry @Tor R but I don't understand those questions.

 

[Letitia]

Good morning Shiny's

 

[hittman]

Good morning shiny people.

 

[Tor R]

Good morning ladies and gentlemen,
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These are politicians from the party currently in power. They speak with one voice.


I'm sorry @Tor R but I don't understand those questions.

What I was wondering is whether the opposition parties talk the same as those in government.

I have only read the newspaper pieces where the government claimed that there were over 200 substances in vape that were not natural for us to inhale.
And it makes me think, like what are these substances, and in what quantity.

 

[OnTheFidele]

I emailed Orca Vape and they told me they have already finished a second batch of 18650 Stubby AIOs in many colors, though they weren't clear on where they would all be shipped to. I assume the official distributors...

 

[Pigs]

Good morning ladies and gentlemen,
#20 has started to move:



What I was wondering is whether the opposition parties talk the same as those in government.

I have only read the newspaper pieces where the government claimed that there were over 200 substances in vape that were not natural for us to inhale.
And it makes me think, like what are these substances, and in what quantity.

I see what you meant - this gov was recently elected and will likely be in power for at least the next 5 years.
The major opposition party (coalition) are also anti- vape with the exception of a couple of their members.

As for the claim of the 200 plus substances, you're better informed than I am.
I hadn't read that but it doesn't surprise me. Hysterical claims like that are being made by politicians and "medical experts " here and are being swallowed whole by the public.

 

[AngeNZ]

Morning shinies

My tracking is moving. My boring 3f order is in NZ and on its way down to me. The Blaze Solo rta is still waiting on a plane. And some samples to photograph from Uwell is at the PO Box.

 

[Technonut]

As for the claim of the 200 plus substances, you're better informed than I am.
I hadn't read that but it doesn't surprise me. Hysterical claims like that are being made by politicians and "medical experts " here and are being swallowed whole by the public

Deeming Regulations have been released!!!!

You can download all 499 pages of the regulations here: https://s3.amazonaws.com/public-inspection.federalregister.gov/2016-10685.pdf We liveblogged the reaction: Deeming Live blog | vaping.com Clive Bates on Stanton Glantz and the junk science...

www.e-cigarette-forum.com

MSN

“Vapes contain more than 200 chemicals that do not belong in the lungs. Some of the same chemicals you will find in nail polish remover and weed killer,”

 

[chanelvaps]

PSA
One of our very own, Sara, is very sick and needs our love, prayers and good juju sent her way. She told me it was alright to share this news and I have grappled over it.
She needs money and tried to sell her stab wood collection but it got shut down by our very observant and always vigilante Classy because she did not have prices attached.
She is on chemo and having a hard time.
It would be wonderful to have others reach out to her.

 

[hittman]

PSA
One of our very own, Sara, is very sick and needs our love, prayers and good juju sent her way. She told me it was alright to share this news and I have grappled over it.
She needs money and tried to sell her stab wood collection but it got shut down by our very observant and always vigilante Classy because she did not have prices attached.
She is on chemo and having a hard time.
It would be wonderful to have others reach out to her.

Thank you for letting us know. I don't have any idea how to do it but could someone start a go fund me or something for her to raise funds? I hate to see her have to sell her collection.

 

[Pigs]

Deeming Regulations have been released!!!!

You can download all 499 pages of the regulations here: https://s3.amazonaws.com/public-inspection.federalregister.gov/2016-10685.pdf We liveblogged the reaction: Deeming Live blog | vaping.com Clive Bates on Stanton Glantz and the junk science...

www.e-cigarette-forum.com

MSN

One reaction:

 

[Daniel Forsyth]

Good Morning Shiny People

 

[Tor R]

One reaction:

Not much I can help with, I think you Australians need to find the sources the government used to make the decision.

Simon Chapman and Prof Emily Banks are two I would start reading a bit about.
Here is something the lady made, a couple of months ago:

https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.5694/mja2.51890

Conclusions​

There is strong or conclusive evidence that nicotine e-cigarettes can be harmful to health, particularly for non-smokers and children and adolescents. Evidence for their effects, and those of non-nicotine e-cigarettes, on most important health outcomes is uncertain. Smokers who quit by switching completely and promptly to e-cigarettes may benefit from their use, but they are not currently approved as medical smoking cessation aids. The evidence we have synthesised supports policy and regulatory efforts to reduce e-cigarette use in the general population, particularly by non-smokers and children, adolescents, and young adults, and for purposes other than smoking cessation. Better quality evidence is required regarding e-cigarette health effects, their safety and efficacy as smoking cessation aids, and effective regulatory options.

You should read it all, it says a lot about the people you are dealing with, and also how wrongly they angle it.

 

[Tor R]

PSA
One of our very own, Sara, is very sick and needs our love, prayers and good juju sent her way. She told me it was alright to share this news and I have grappled over it.
She needs money and tried to sell her stab wood collection but it got shut down by our very observant and always vigilante Classy because she did not have prices attached.
She is on chemo and having a hard time.
It would be wonderful to have others reach out to her.

Thank you for letting us know. I don't have any idea how to do it but could someone start a go fund me or something for her to raise funds? I hate to see her have to sell her collection.

It's tough to have to go through.
I don't know how we can best help her, donating is perhaps the fastest way to contribute.

 

[Mordacai]

@Tor R a lot of that is total buldor and has been discredited multiple times.

They've deliberately biased any science by cherry picking information that validates their narrative.

 

[Tor R]

@Tor R a lot of that is total buldor and has been discredited multiple times.

They've deliberately biased any science by cherry picking information that validates their narrative.

Yep, but what I'm linking to are the people that the Australian government listens to.