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The latest, most extreme anti- vape laws are becoming reality here.
January 2024 all single use /disposable vapes will become illegal. Penalties will apply for possession.
March 2024 all recreational or "non therapeutic" devices (anything not made by big pharma or big tobacco) will be banned. Nicotine or not - doesn't matter. Penalties will apply for possession. Flavours will be banned.
So my collection of hardware will be illegal and I will technically become a criminal in my own country. I"ll still be able to walk up to the local shop and buy a pack of smokes.
"for the greater good" and "for the children" are two of big brothers' favorites.:(
 

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Back in the old days there weren't so many choices. A handful of tanks and mods that got the air time, and some other stuff that was more niche or whatever. You could just about try everything if you wanted. Glad I started vaping then rather than today.
me too. And let us not forget the Provari with the fancy dancy tank of which the name escapes me. It had a little screw with a screwdriver that you used to adjust the airflow.
 

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Yes, it was a weird deal. The rep at the time sent me five different things to review. The tomahawk arrived in a plastic bag with no instructions. It took me a little while to figure out how to fill the squonk bottle. I have a handful of sbs mods and the only one in rotation is the abyss with the sbs kit. The Abyss has been a favorite for a while. I’d like to get a couple more if I find a good sale on them.
they knew you were a superhero when it came to all things vape and they knew you would just figure it out. lol
 

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I’m very sorry for you. I have a really hard time wrapping my head around legislation like that. I know there’s been talk of banning disposables in different places but to say you can’t use what you have is insane to me. So if you vape in public is someone going to walk over and handcuff you?
Not only would I end up in court if I vaped in public, but if a neighbour had a gripe against me, the cops could roll up on my front door with a search warrant and confiscate my reos. Possibly march me away. I kid you not.
 

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me too. And let us not forget the Provari with the fancy dancy tank of which the name escapes me. It had a little screw with a screwdriver that you used to adjust the airflow.
Back then I had heard of the Provari but it was way out of my price range. Got some at the end when they were going cheap. Were you referring to a tank made by Provari? Never heard of that.
 

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Good morning folks,

The latest, most extreme anti- vape laws are becoming reality here.
January 2024 all single use /disposable vapes will become illegal. Penalties will apply for possession.
March 2024 all recreational or "non therapeutic" devices (anything not made by big pharma or big tobacco) will be banned. Nicotine or not - doesn't matter. Penalties will apply for possession. Flavours will be banned.
So my collection of hardware will be illegal and I will technically become a criminal in my own country. I"ll still be able to walk up to the local shop and buy a pack of smokes.
It is a terrible decision that mainly affects the law-abiding population.
I understand they are concerned about minors obtaining and using disposable vapes, but I can guarantee that even a full ban like Australia is doing now will not reduce access by minors.
They use social media to organize what they want to get hold of, and they will do that with vape equipment in the future as well, just as they have done until now.

Almost the whole of Europe is going to have a flavor ban, when the failure is counted up, i.e. minors have still obtained and used disposable vape, the next step comes, arguing that this is how it was done in such and such a country.
 

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Not only would I end up in court if I vaped in public, but if a neighbour had a gripe against me, the cops could roll up on my front door with a search warrant and confiscate my reos. Possibly march me away. I kid you not.
Remember this one? I downloaded it years ago from the website of a vape store that was closing down. Bit of vaping history. Long but worth checking out.

They came screaming across the highway. The VPF cycles sped along in attack formation, their motors reverberating sounds like maddened bees or starved babies, their wails hungry, animal. With twitchy, violent lurches, the cycles swung through turnoffs, roads, and finally came to rest at the curb of a boarded, derelict home.

The boots hit the asphalt, the cement, the browned grass, and finally the door.

Bits of lock and splintered wood rained into the foyer. Mag-lights beamed their milk-blue flutter on the cracked drywall as the VPC stomped through, “clearing” room after unlit room. Black-gloved hands formed signals and beckons while officers upturned and tore furniture.

“Nothing,” said one.

“They’re in here,” said their leader. “I can smell the banana flavoring.”

The scent led them to a dirty laundry room. A one-eyed raccoon burst from the dryer when they overturned it, hissing. The creature was euthanized with machine efficiency. Beneath a clay-colored rug, a loose tile was discovered. The tile was edged and lifted, unearthing a torrent of tropical banana fragrance from below.

A tear-gas canister was tossed into the darkness, followed by a clunk and an angry, chemical hiss. The sound of glass shattering. Muted, hurried voices. Then coughing, wailing, and silence.

* * *​

Jessup and Clive awoke on their respective couches when the mail-slot clapped. Jessup blinked himself conscious, and groped for his mod. He rose from the couch while he inhaled the contraband, and lumbered zig-zaggedly to the day’s newspaper, crisp in its cellophane baggie.

A half-page headline read, “VPC SEIZES MASSIVE VAPE LAB- 20 GALLONS SUBMITTED TO EVIDENCE.” Jessup unfolded the paper to reveal a foot-high photo of three bootleggers bound and wincing beneath VPC boots, with their commander hoisting a rifle. An active cigarette made the commander’s face glow.

“Jesus,” said Jessup. “Another bust.”

Clive had unlidded his atomizer, and dripped juice from a recycled honey bear bottle. “How much?”

“Twenty gallons,” said Jessup. “That’s about the end of the Sub-Ohm Saints. The whole operation just got decapitated.”

Jessup tossed Clive the paper. It flapped against his chest and winged to the floor. Clive squinted bleary-eyed and pawed it to his eyes. “Dalton, Melvin, and Charlie,” he said. “There goes the competition…”

Jessup turned. “It’s more than that.”

“We’re turning a cozy little profit, here,” said Clive. “So long as we can fill their demand, we’ll more than double our cash flow! Good riddance, I say.”

“But how long before we get hog-tied and crucified?” said Jessup. “We’re walking corpses if we don’t change up. The VPC is tapping phones, K-9’s are sniffing around, and any old snitch gets hooked up if they can finger us to the bulls. We’re dead men unless we cut our losses and quit slinging juice.”

Clive cut across the den and lifted yesterday’s coffee pot to his lips. After three glugs, he said, “We gotta change up.”

“We already ‘changed up,’ Clive.” Jessup fired his mod. “Three times already. VPC is getting smarter. We can’t just sling out of our cars on pizza delivery runs. No more basements. No more overpasses. We can’t travel with the juice. We can’t text, call, or pass it off in bathrooms at bars. The money ain’t what it used to be, and it’s getting riskier every day we mix.” Jessup took a long draw. “We’re finished, man. We gotta shut down the speakeasy.”

Clive vaped in silence. He blew no O’s.

“I say we shut down. We gotta somehow get rid of the VG, the PG, vats, bottles, all the flavoring, not to mention the nic… We can sell off the last couple of batches, but after that, we’re done, man. Done.”

Clive looked up. “We sell the lab?” He stood up. “All that hard work, down the drain?” He stepped towards Jessup. “Just cut our losses, sell at less than fifty percent to God-knows-who, and go back to nine-to-five life?”

Clive shoved Jessup against the door. “The cast is set. If we’re as doomed as our buyers, and we are, what’s to stop them from ratting for reduced sentence? Who’s gonna keep tight lips and opt out of the bounty? There ain’t a juicer alive that wouldn’t sell us out for 10 G’s.”

Jessup clutched his mod. His knuckles were white.

Clive turned and walked back towards the kitchen. “Until the last nail hits the coffin, I’m in this.” Clive switched out his battery. “This is more than money. This is idealism.” Clive hit his mod. “We’ve been slinging juice and mods since 2021. That’s twelve years of criminal vape export. I dunno about you, but I’d rather rot in a jail cell with a clean conscience than close up shop and nine-to-five it.”

“That’s the dumbest thing I’ve ever heard,” said Jessup. “We can’t get all martyr about this, we gotta use our heads. C’mon, man, I’m tired of being paranoid. I’m losing sleep.”

“Alright,” said Clive. “I get it. Here’s what we do: we can sell your share. Fifty-fifty. Half the lab equipment, materials, whatever. I’m gonna keep slinging.”

Jessup nodded.

“There’s just one thing,” Clive redripped. “You gotta help me sell the last batch. One big score. Last hurrah. Then you can buy a suit and work for Marlboro for all I care.”



The afternoon was a sweaty affair, in which Clive and Jessup boxed and disassembled half of their operation. The two partners said little as jugs, bottles, titration tools, and beakers were torn down and taped away with packing peanuts. That very silence gave way to the slow-dawning racket of motorbikes.
 

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The latest, most extreme anti- vape laws are becoming reality here.
January 2024 all single use /disposable vapes will become illegal. Penalties will apply for possession.
March 2024 all recreational or "non therapeutic" devices (anything not made by big pharma or big tobacco) will be banned. Nicotine or not - doesn't matter. Penalties will apply for possession. Flavours will be banned.
So my collection of hardware will be illegal and I will technically become a criminal in my own country. I"ll still be able to walk up to the local shop and buy a pack of smokes.
Jees mate i'm shocked to hear that.
Over here we had a change of government. The old one was continuing the on the target of getting the country smoke free by 2025 (I think). They were also getting tougher on vaping.
The new government now is revoking the smoke free plan....to what extent is still mostly unknown. Read they plan to push vaping more as a stop smoking tool. The country had good results with vaping so far the article said.
Will have to wait and see what exactly their plan is with vaping.
 
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I have a quick 3F delivery question. On 17track my package showed picked up by carrier on the 25th and nothing since then. How long should I expect to wait for the next update? Does it get moved from China Post to a domestic carrier when it arrives in the US? It's been years since I stalked the tracking apps.

The last time I ordered from China was a pack of Boro tanks from FT, made that order a week before the covid shutdown started and it took 5 months to get here.
 

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Over here we had a change of government. The old one was continuing the on the target of getting the country smoke free by 2025 (I think). They were also getting tougher on vaping.
The new government now is revoking the smoke free plan....to what extent is still mostly unknown. Read they plan to push vaping more as a stop smoking tool. The country had good results with vaping so far the article said.
Will have to wait and see what exactly their plan is with vaping.
Seems NZ and UK are the only countries left that are taking a reasonably positive attitude to vaping, though that could change any time. You guys might need to step up and start sending care packages to your buddies over the water.
 

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    I have a quick 3F delivery question. On 17track my package showed picked up by carrier on the 25th and nothing since then. How long should I expect to wait for the next update? Does it get moved from China Post to a domestic carrier when it arrives in the US? It's been years since I stalked the tracking apps.

    The last time I ordered from China was a pack of Boro tanks from FT, made that order a week before the covid shutdown started and it took 5 months to get here.


    It's not unusual for a package from China not to track for a while once it leaves China. It is probably waiting in line for it's turn to cross the ocean. Tracking will usually resume once it arrives in the destination country. In the US, the whole process usually takes about 3 weeks.
     

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    Back then I had heard of the Provari but it was way out of my price range. Got some at the end when they were going cheap. Were you referring to a tank made by Provari? Never heard of that.
    no, it was not made by Provari but seemed to be the 'go to' tank to put on a Provari. I only had one and it did not hold much allegiance for me because I got into higher watts. I just cannot remember the name. Maybe someone on here will know
     

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    no, it was not made by Provari but seemed to be the 'go to' tank to put on a Provari. I only had one and it did not hold much allegiance for me because I got into higher watts. I just cannot remember the name. Maybe someone on here will know
    Are you thinking about the Kabuki tank? I never tried one, but I think that was designed to use the factory Nautilus coils and offered a choice of the standard 510 screw or P3 connection. There was also a Zen Atty that was a genesis style tank for making your own coils. I think Zen made the Kabuki tanks too.
     

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    Are you thinking about the Kabuki tank? I never tried one, but I think that was designed to use the factory Nautilus coils and offered a choice of the standard 510 screw or P3 connection. There was also a Zen Atty that was a genesis style tank for making your own coils. I think Zen made the Kabuki tanks too.
    YES!! That is it!! Thanks for jogging my memory cats!
     

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    It's not unusual for a package from China not to track for a while once it leaves China. It is probably waiting in line for it's turn to cross the ocean. Tracking will usually resume once it arrives in the destination country. In the US, the whole process usually takes about 3 weeks.
    My 3F package got some action today. Cleared by Export Customs and left the country. Don't know if that means actually left the country or sitting in the airport waiting for its turn. Forgot how much fun this is.
     

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